I understand your point Mirage. Boeing at the time of the McDonnell buy wanted the space division (including the Delta rocket family), missiles, as well as the military aircraft but I recall at the time Boeing knew the MD80, MD90, and probably the MD11 wouldn't survive. They did try to market the MD11F but the orders weren't large enough to tie up that much capital. As far as your point on the airliner division, you are absolutely right. I think the only difference is I believe (being a Boeing stock shareholder then and now) they never felt there would be much of a future for the Douglas lines. The key to this whole Airbus/Boeing rivalry, it's making them both build much better airplanes. I appreciate your comments.