DekX
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First AC 777-300ER In Final Body Join

Fri Jan 26, 2007 6:43 am

A little update for all you fellow CDNs out there… I was just out to see over some work on the 777 final line and realized that it was Air Canada's first 777-300ER. Should be out for delivery for Feb 13 if we can get all the NCR completed on time. But so far no major issues… She's looking fine all in prime !!!
I hope to get some pics when they finally paint her next week.
 
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Fri Jan 26, 2007 6:49 am

Excellent news! A very welcome sight to many Canadians in these parts i'm sure!  Smile
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Fri Jan 26, 2007 6:56 am

Canadians or not, we're all looking forward to it. It shall look lovely inside and out.  Cool
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Fri Jan 26, 2007 7:11 am

An AC 77W next to the AI 77L, now that should be a nice pic!
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Fri Jan 26, 2007 7:48 am

Ah its about time we get another update. can't wait to see the picture  Smile
 
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Fri Jan 26, 2007 7:56 am

Quoting AirCanada014 (Reply 4):
Ah its about time we get another update. can't wait to see the picture

keep checking this link for the update. The moment it is out of the hanger/body shop, it should be captured here
http://www.flickr.com/photos/microvolt/
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Fri Jan 26, 2007 8:41 am

Awesome! Thanks for this well needed update. I can't wait to see her in AC colours, as well as hopefully fly on her!

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Fri Jan 26, 2007 8:42 am

I think you confused the tail colors Dekx

According to RobK's website, the line number for AC first 777 is 620. The latest line number that has rolled out of the factory I think is 612 (B-16706 of BR which is a 777-300ER), though I may be wrong. So it seems it's still a while til AC first 777 rolls out, but I believe you since you went to see the final Boeing 777 production line in person. We'll see.

Regards, AirplaneFan  Smile

[Edited 2007-01-26 00:45:59]
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DekX
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Fri Jan 26, 2007 9:27 am

Airplane Fan... 617 (Continental 2ER) is coming out tomorrow and Singapores 618 is awaiting engine install. We have Emirates whos getting fwd and aft barrels and is already on the line. AC620 is right behind them.
Both AF and 616 and 617 are completed. AF is in the 67 hanger currently. Both are not painted.
Should see AC end of the week.
 
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Fri Jan 26, 2007 9:41 am

i am leaving montreal saturday and will visit boeing on sunday. hope to see it on that day.

by the way. how far from the seattle airport is the boeing field ?
 
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Fri Jan 26, 2007 9:52 am

Awesome. It's about time. I cannot wait to see her painted up in AC colours. But at the same time, what is left to do with AC's 762/763's?
 
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Fri Jan 26, 2007 9:52 am

Quoting Dekx (Thread starter):
I hope to get some pics when they finally paint her next week.

Look forward to seeing her up here. They do a lot of their training for take of and landings at the Hamilton airport, so maybe I will see her here
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Fri Jan 26, 2007 9:57 am

Quoting Dekx (Thread starter):
Should be out for delivery for Feb 13

Wow that's amazing! Hard to believe the special day is almost here... Counting down till she visits her new home at YYZ.  Smile

Cheers,
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Fri Jan 26, 2007 10:11 am

Sorry for this slight hijack. Is AC still planning to start flying her in March/April, or would she start flying earlier?

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Fri Jan 26, 2007 11:02 am

Quoting Dekx (Thread starter):
Should be out for delivery for Feb 13

You reckon the first ACA 777 will deliver on Feb 13?!  rotfl 

No chance. Would be surprised if it delivers for March 13.

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Fri Jan 26, 2007 11:19 am

Quote:

609 PH-BQO KLM 35295 206ER 190107
610 VT-ALA AIC 36300 237LR
611 AP-BHW PIA 33779 340ER
612 B-16706 EVA 33750 35EER
613 AP-BHX PIA 35296 340ER Lsd from ILFC

614 5Y-KYZ KQA 36124 2U8ER
615 9V-SWH SIA 34573 312ER
616 F-GSQT AFR 32846 328ER
617 N77019 COA 35547 224ER
618 9V-SWI SIA 34574 312ER
619 A6-EBX UAE 32729 31HER
620 C-FITL ACA 35265 333ER
621 VT-ALB AIC 36301 237LR
622 A6-EBY UAE 33864 36NER
623 9V-SWJ SIA 34575 312ER
624 F-GSQU AFR 32847 328ER
625 N69020 COA 31687 224ER
626 C-FITU ACA 35254 333ER
627 VT-JEA JAI 35157 35RER
628 A6-EBZ UAE 32713 31HER
629 VT-ALC AIC 36302 237LR
630 PH-BQP KLM 32721 206ER
631 JA779A JAL 34894 381ER
632 A6-ECA UAE 32794 36NER
633
634 B-16707 EVA 33751 35EER
635 JA773J JAL 27653 246ER

Seattle Deliveries

uptill frame number 613 have been spotted, and those of AC (620 & 626) are in bold. So, not really far away.
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Fri Jan 26, 2007 11:29 am

Quoting RobK (Reply 14):
You reckon the first ACA 777 will deliver on Feb 13?!

No chance. Would be surprised if it delivers for March 13.



Quoting Aseem (Reply 15):
uptill frame number 613 have been spotted, and those of AC (620 & 626) are in bold. So, not really far away.

Look!! I am using your site to contradict you.  rotfl 
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Fri Jan 26, 2007 11:34 am

Just Curious,

Does anyone know what tail numbers Air Canada will be using for the 777s?

A340's are 900 series and 767s are 600 series etc..

Definitely looking forward to the replacement of the good looking but runway length hungry A340-300s.

PIA flys YYZ nonstop to Pakistan with their 777s and has yet to ask for a longer runway - great performer!!!!

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Fri Jan 26, 2007 12:01 pm

Any chance there will be a modification of any sort in the livery or will it the the standard toothpaste livery?
 
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Fri Jan 26, 2007 12:53 pm

Quoting Aseem (Reply 16):
Look!! I am using your site to contradict you.

How exactly are you contradicting me? Where exactly am I contradicting myself? Are you seriously trying to tell me that 620 will roll out, test fly and deliver for 13 Feb?  rotfl 

From roll out to delivery of a 777 you've a time scale of 3 weeks minimum (typically more like a month to 5 weeks) so for ACA to deliver on 13 Feb it would have needed to have rolled out on 23 Jan at the latest and it hasn't even been made yet!

I am sure that Nick (Beech19) will back me up that ACA won't be taking their first 777 on 13 Feb! Try more like 13 March and I might start to believe you.

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Fri Jan 26, 2007 1:08 pm

Quoting RobK (Reply 19):
How exactly are you contradicting me? Where exactly am I contradicting myself? Are you seriously trying to tell me that 620 will roll out, test fly and deliver for 13 Feb?

Actually, I was laughing at myself. Maybe didn't put correctly.  Smile
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Fri Jan 26, 2007 1:25 pm

AC's first 777 is to be delivered March 23rd.

Original date of Feb 13 was pushed back over a month ago.

This comes from 777 Management pilot in YZ.
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Fri Jan 26, 2007 1:37 pm

As for the question as to when AC will start flying the 777.

First routes to be flown will be rapidairs between YYZ-YUL-YOW and Londons to get the crews line indoc'd and transition checked. Once the initial cadre of pilots are checked out she should see HKG/PEK/NRT and other runs commensurate with it's range.

First crews are in Seattle now, with another course starting in Miami a couple of days ago after the sim their got the EFB certified. Most FA's have already done their training. I heard 355 seats with a J, premium economy and economy seats.
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Fri Jan 26, 2007 10:08 pm

Quoting DC10sRULE (Reply 17):
Does anyone know what tail numbers Air Canada will be using for the 777s?

The 77W's will have FIN#'s 731-736. The 77L's will have #'s 701-706 respectivly.
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Fri Jan 26, 2007 11:23 pm

Quoting SixtySeven (Reply 22):
I heard 355 seats with a J, premium economy and economy seats.

http://www.aircanada.com/en/about/fleet/77L.html
http://www.aircanada.com/en/about/fleet/77W.html

There are 270 (42J/228Y) in the 200LR and 349 seats (42J/307Y) in the 300ER. No Y+ seats are being used.
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Fri Jan 26, 2007 11:31 pm

Quoting SixtySeven (Reply 22):
First routes to be flown will be rapidairs between YYZ-YUL-YOW

Since when has YOW been added to the roster? It would be amazing if that were true, but I've yet to hear anyone else say this.

Quoting AC_B777 (Reply 23):
The 77W's will have FIN#'s 731-736. The 77L's will have #'s 701-706 respectivly.

The old DC-9 fins are getting revived. Must mean the triple sevens will have a long life at AC, just like the Diesel nines had.
 
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Sat Jan 27, 2007 1:54 am

Well if they are putting YOW in during the initial runs it would be great if they could take her out here to YYC once or twice while they are at it.

It would be a great site to check out, maybe they could park her nice and close to BA's 772.
 
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Sat Jan 27, 2007 3:20 am

CNZ3

Thanks for the config info. I wasn't sure of the exact arragement of the -300. You say that there are not going to be any J+ seats. Are you sure about that? I was sitting next to one of the Flight Ops 777 Management guys and he said there was indeed 42 of the lie flats in J but he mentioned there was going to be some J+ seats, sort of like the domestic J seats on the '67. He may have been mistaken though.

YOW

YOW won't see the 777 very much, very occaisonally. YUL will see a lot of it during the first little while. As well as LHRs to get the boys all spun up and ready to go.
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Sat Jan 27, 2007 3:27 am

If you think the rapidair thing is funny with such an a/c, get this.

About six months ago, ACs corporate sked department told the 777 management team they didn't want to skew the sked for such a short period of time (2-3 months).

They initially told the 777 management group that they were on their own to get the guys trained up. The 777 Fleet Manager told me that they were just going to get a whack of guys together and fly it around Ontario. They needed to have airports more than 50 miles apart to satisfy the X-C requirement by transport canada. They were just going to do touch and gos from one place to the other!!!

Trenton, YHM, London, Sudbury, Thunder Bay and the Soo were all going to see some 777 action.

I guess on second thought Corporate thought it might be beneficial to have some revenue on the flights and this plan was canned. Boy what fun that would have been though, doing bounce and gos all over the province!!!
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Sat Jan 27, 2007 3:35 am

Quoting CNZ3 (Reply 24):
http://www.aircanada.com/en/about/fleet/77L.html
http://www.aircanada.com/en/about/fleet/77W.html

There are 270 (42J/228Y) in the 200LR and 349 seats (42J/307Y) in the 300ER. No Y+ seats are being used

The info on AC's fleet page is not entirely correct.

AC has the B77L equipped with GE90-110bs engines, but GE's press release stated that all of AC 777s will have the higher thrust -115b variant of the GE90 engine.

Can anyone confirm this?

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Sat Jan 27, 2007 4:10 am

Quoting KrisYYZ (Reply 29):
AC has the B77L equipped with GE90-110bs engines, but GE's press release stated that all of AC 777s will have the higher thrust -115b variant of the GE90 engine.

I think AC has the 115Bs on all ships, but they just cut and pasted the info on their web site from Boeings web site. Thats what I have been told.
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Sat Jan 27, 2007 4:15 am

Quoting KrisYYZ (Reply 29):
but GE's press release stated that all of AC 777s will have the higher thrust -115b variant of the GE90 engine.

I hope AC went with the bigguns... Can't wait to see this bad boy coming into YYZ. Anyone know when the first flight in YYZ is going to be? I work about 3K from the airport and would love to spot her on the way in.
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Sat Jan 27, 2007 4:57 am

According to the guy I talked to, the -300 will have 115,000lbs and the -LR will have 110,000lbs.

5,000lbs less ain't much when dealing with outputs like that!!
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Sat Jan 27, 2007 8:24 am

Quoting SixtySeven (Reply 28):
Thunder Bay and the Soo were all going to see some 777 action.

Thunder Bay!!  eyepopping 
I was there when the 747SP was there, and that was something, but a AC 777 doing T and G's, now THAT would be cool!

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Sat Jan 27, 2007 9:00 am

Hi again folks... we're still working out some typical kinks.. but from what I can see they should be throwing the wings on next week (early). This is my last few weeks at Boeing but I'm sure I'll get a few good shots of her for everyone b4 I go. Delivery is definately not Feb 13.. roll out of factory is then.. however, they are running about a day behind sched... so look for her towards the end of that week.
See you all @ YYZ.
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Sat Jan 27, 2007 12:38 pm

Thanx DekX.

They will have to do a bunch of acceptance flights then bring it to YUL to get the MAINT people to get familiar with it.

Late March is still the date to see this beauty in YZ.

Can't wait.
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