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Crash Footage Used In Movies...

Mon Jan 29, 2007 7:22 am

I was watching the movie "Day After Tomorrow" recently and in it there was a scene where they were talking about plane crashes. They showed a short news clip featuring the tail of an aircraft that looked like Avianca's old livery. I wrote down the reg number later to find that it was HK-2015, a 707 that crashed while landing at JFK in 1990. I found it interesting that a movie made in 2004 would randomly use 1990 footage.

Are there any other movies that anyone can think of that uses accident footage?
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Mon Jan 29, 2007 7:30 am

In "Final Destination" they used TWA 800 footage on news clip of the TWA800ish crash that happened in that movie.
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Mon Jan 29, 2007 7:34 am

United 93 used CNN footage of the WTC impacts.
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Mon Jan 29, 2007 7:37 am

Quoting ZschocheImages (Reply 2):
United 93 used CNN footage of the WTC impacts

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RE: Crash Footage Used In Movies...

Mon Jan 29, 2007 9:43 am

The UA-232 cartwheel has been used numerous times, as it's one of the very few times an actual crash was filmed as it happened.

Most crashes, sadly, don't leave much - if anything - recognizable behind, and as such when a production company needs a clip, their available resources are few ... hence you see the same clip re-used.

It would not surprise me to see shots of the A340 in Toronto in future films, as it was another well documented (and filmed) spectacular accident ... and one of the very very few.

And, as pointed out, the film clip of the salvage ship lifting the large chunk of TWA800 fuselage from the ocean has also been used several times.

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Mon Jan 29, 2007 10:06 am

when the airplane in airplane! is on final approach, they show footage in the cabin of a plane crashing in it, looks like test footage or something?
 
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Mon Jan 29, 2007 10:20 am

Quoting Mohavewolfpup (Reply 5):
when the airplane in airplane! is on final approach, they show footage in the cabin of a plane crashing in it, looks like test footage or something?

It looks like a DC-6. I have seen a Modern Marvels on the history channel that shows that same scene. They also showed more of the plane and some interior shots. I would like to see the entire film.
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Mon Jan 29, 2007 10:27 am

Quoting Litz (Reply 4):
The UA-232 cartwheel has been used numerous times, as it's one of the very few times an actual crash was filmed as it happened.

The only video I've seen is from like a mile away, and the plane passes behind a building, so you don't see much at all except the fireball. Is there a better film? I'd be curious to see it.

Quoting Litz (Reply 4):

It would not surprise me to see shots of the A340 in Toronto in future films, as it was another well documented (and filmed) spectacular accident ... and one of the very very few.

There was film of the incident? I've only seen images. Again, where can I find it?

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Mon Jan 29, 2007 2:59 pm

While not a movie, the TV show 24 from last week (10:00am - 11:00am - Episode 5) showed footage of an airplane crash that I could swear was the Challenger 600 crash in Teterboro (KTEB) on Feb 2, 2005...

http://www.hasbrouck-heights.com/news05/teb1_05.shtml
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RE: Crash Footage Used In Movies...

Mon Jan 29, 2007 3:30 pm

Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 7):
Quoting Litz (Reply 4):
The UA-232 cartwheel has been used numerous times, as it's one of the very few times an actual crash was filmed as it happened.

The only video I've seen is from like a mile away, and the plane passes behind a building, so you don't see much at all except the fireball. Is there a better film? I'd be curious to see it.

There are still photos of it passing overhead on final of the starboard side of the aircraft. There should have been more videotaping of the incident, they knew it was coming. Had there been video from the point the still photo was taken, the cartwheel shot wouldn't be as infamous.

Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 7):
Quoting Litz (Reply 4):
It would not surprise me to see shots of the A340 in Toronto in future films, as it was another well documented (and filmed) spectacular accident ... and one of the very very few.

There was film of the incident? I've only seen images. Again, where can I find it.
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I don't think there is video of the landing and skid off the runway, but I remember watching the evacuation on CNN.
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Mon Jan 29, 2007 3:52 pm

Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 7):
The only video I've seen is from like a mile away, and the plane passes behind a building, so you don't see much at all except the fireball. Is there a better film? I'd be curious to see it.

It is taken from a fence. You see the plane hit and flip.

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It was used in a TV drama about the crash. Quite the cast: Charlton Heston, Richard Thomas, James Coburn, and Philip Baker Hall just to name a few.

Quoting Mohavewolfpup (Reply 5):
they show footage in the cabin of a plane crashing in it, looks like test footage or something?

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This is a NASA/FAA video from the Dryden Flight Research Center. They flew a 720 remotely and then crashed it to to test the impact of a Boeing 720 aircraft using standard fuel with an additive designed to suppress fire.
The plane was suppose to land with wings level between two blocks of concrete which would have ripped off the wings leaving the fuselage intacked. But instead the thing came in strange and jsut exploded.
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Mon Jan 29, 2007 3:54 pm

Quoting Centrair (Reply 10):
The plane was suppose to land with wings level between two blocks of concrete which would have ripped off the wings leaving the fuselage intacked. But instead the thing came in strange and jsut exploded.

Although a mishap, the swerve created a more realistic crash as airliners don't crash straight and level.
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Mon Jan 29, 2007 5:01 pm

Quoting Centrair (Reply 10):
This is a NASA/FAA video from the Dryden Flight Research Center. They flew a 720 remotely and then crashed it to to test the impact of a Boeing 720 aircraft using standard fuel with an additive designed to suppress fire.

This you could also see in the boardroom scene in the first Robocop film, on the TV screens behind Ronny Cox.
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Tue Jan 30, 2007 12:16 am

This will be really reaching (and telling my age), but:

In the main title sequence of "The Six Million Dollar Man" TV series, footage of the spectacular crash of one of the lifting-body experimental planes is shown. I think the same footage was used in the TV movie/pilot for the series.
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Tue Jan 30, 2007 2:13 am

The crash sequence, shown on the inflight movie screen in "Airplane!", comes from FAA crash test footage.
 
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Tue Jan 30, 2007 2:35 am

Quoting Centrair (Reply 10):
This is a NASA/FAA video from the Dryden Flight Research Center. They flew a 720 remotely and then crashed it to to test the impact of a Boeing 720 aircraft using standard fuel with an additive designed to suppress fire.
The plane was suppose to land with wings level between two blocks of concrete which would have ripped off the wings leaving the fuselage intacked. But instead the thing came in strange and jsut exploded.

Can't be the same thing. Airplane came out in 1980 and that test happened in 1984.
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Tue Jan 30, 2007 2:42 am

In the old Charleton Heston movie "Motherload" a float plane crashes into a lake....the fact is, the script was for the plane to buzz by, but instead it clipped a wave and cartwheeled into the lake. The footage was written into the movie.

The lake was in BC between Squamish and Whistler.
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Tue Jan 30, 2007 3:19 am

Quoting Centrair (Reply 10):
Controlled Impact Demonstration
This is a NASA/FAA video from the Dryden Flight Research Center. They flew a 720 remotely and then crashed it to to test the impact of a Boeing 720 aircraft using standard fuel with an additive designed to suppress fire.
The plane was suppose to land with wings level between two blocks of concrete which would have ripped off the wings leaving the fuselage intacked. But instead the thing came in strange and jsut exploded.

The full video showing the cabin views is one of the scariest things I have ever seen. You can see that the entire outside of the fuselage is engulfed in flames through the windows.
 
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Tue Jan 30, 2007 3:47 am

Quoting Falstaff (Reply 15):
Can't be the same thing. Airplane came out in 1980 and that test happened in 1984.

The FAA has done a few other crash tests .. off hand, I know there was one w/a DC7, and one with a L-1049 ... the film of the nose of the plane coming right at you is, I think, from one of those ...

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Tue Jan 30, 2007 4:19 am

Quoting Litz (Reply 18):
The FAA has done a few other crash tests .. off hand, I know there was one w/a DC7, and one with a L-1049 ... the film of the nose of the plane coming right at you is, I think, from one of those ...

Can it be that they used the L1049 scene in the movie The Voyager (Homo Faber) (1991) starring Sam Shepard?

It's a damn real-looking crash. And real-looking scenes of a 1049 wreck in the desert.

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Tue Jan 30, 2007 4:44 am

How ethical is it to show crash footage in movies. If a loved of mine died in a crash and some movie studio used a film of that crash in their movie, I would be a little upset.
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RE: Crash Footage Used In Movies...

Tue Jan 30, 2007 4:45 am

Quoting Falstaff (Reply 15):
Quoting Centrair (Reply 10):
This is a NASA/FAA video from the Dryden Flight Research Center. They flew a 720 remotely and then crashed it to to test the impact of a Boeing 720 aircraft using standard fuel with an additive designed to suppress fire.
The plane was suppose to land with wings level between two blocks of concrete which would have ripped off the wings leaving the fuselage intacked. But instead the thing came in strange and jsut exploded.

Can't be the same thing. Airplane came out in 1980 and that test happened in 1984.

It's actually a 707?

bizarrely, the test WAS conclusive, NASA/FAA got enough data to say that an additive in fuel would reduce fuel vaporisation on impact, thus reducing the effects of a subsequent fire (or fireball).

I believe the oil companies vetoed it because of the costs involved.

And aircraft don't crash that often (hopefully). The statistical cost of the additive vs the cost of minimising deaths resulted in the additive being scrapped.

The footage is highly interesting though!

http://www.dfrc.nasa.gov/gallery/movie/CID/index.html
 
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Tue Jan 30, 2007 11:26 am

Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 20):
How ethical is it to show crash footage in movies. If a loved of mine died in a crash and some movie studio used a film of that crash in their movie, I would be a little upset.

Ethics mean nothing to Hollywood. Just think of all the recent horror films that glorify serial killers. American films are more often than not of poor taste.
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Tue Jan 30, 2007 11:57 am

Quoting Chuchoteur (Reply 21):
It's actually a 707?

No, that would be a 720 used in the test. It's a modified 707.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controlled_Impact_Demonstration

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