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Rumor: JetBlue To MHT

Tue Jan 30, 2007 4:11 am

Today I was working on a US flight from MHT to LGA and I saw a JetBlue Executive, who I think was a B6 exec. getting on board, he was with 2 B6 crew member's.


I know there is gate 10 at MHT that is unoccupied, it was Independence Air.


So two question's.

Anyone have a pic. of B6 exec's and also do you think they would just fly MHT-JFK for connections.
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RE: Rumor: JetBlue To MHT

Tue Jan 30, 2007 6:37 am

Could just be crew members commuting back to work in NYC after a weekend of skiing in NH. Crew members are not typically part of the mgmt team that are actively involved in selecting new stations.
 
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RE: Rumor: JetBlue To MHT

Tue Jan 30, 2007 6:37 am

While i wouldnt be shocked.... airports and airlines meet quite frequently, heck I drove two US scheduling people back to their hotel when i worked at DAB when the airport hosted them! I would think that if it was signing on the dotted line that they would have been more descrete about it.

It could have been something as simple as then going to speak at Daniel Webster or something....
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RE: Rumor: JetBlue To MHT

Tue Jan 30, 2007 7:45 am

I'm sure they were just commuting. We get JetBlue crews flying CLE-JFK every morning.
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RE: Rumor: JetBlue To MHT

Tue Jan 30, 2007 8:03 am

I doubt it.. too close to BOS which is a prime city for them
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RE: Rumor: JetBlue To MHT

Tue Jan 30, 2007 8:37 am

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 4):
I doubt it.. too close to BOS which is a prime city for them

As is OAK, but they are going to fly from SFO, too close to OAK.

Same can be said of LGA, EWR, SWF, and HPN vis-a-vis JFK.

Maybe they are trying to offer service from both major airports to Boston / NH area.

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RE: Rumor: JetBlue To MHT

Tue Jan 30, 2007 8:45 am

I thought WN wanted more gates at MHT before anyone else walked on in?

B6 would be nice at MHT but I just don't see it quite yet.
 
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RE: Rumor: JetBlue To MHT

Tue Jan 30, 2007 8:47 am

Well, it's not exactly clear to me how interested they might be in serving MHT given that yields on MHT-TPA and MHT-MCO run about 20% lower than yields on BOS-TPA and BOS-MCO. Yields from MHT to FLL, RSW, and PBI are comparable to yields from BOS to all three markets, so they'd have to come in with lower fares in order to stimulate additional traffic. I can perhaps see them flying MHT-JFK, but I don't know if they want to get into a fight with WN over MHT-Florida.
 
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RE: Rumor: JetBlue To MHT

Tue Jan 30, 2007 8:53 am

Quoting Galapagapop (Reply 6):
B6 would be nice at MHT but I just don't see it quite yet.

My sentiments exactly. While Neeleman has spoken favorably of Manchester in the press, I'm sure he's done the same regarding many other cities. As a long-time MHT booster, I've learned--especially post-9/11--to expect the worst and hope for the best.

I'll be on jetBlue tomorrow--the E190 nonstop from Boston to RDU. I'll ping anyone I can talk with and see what's up. The rank-and-file often don't know much (not meant as a slight to them), so we'll see what kind of reaction the word 'Manchester' gets. Probably not much, but ya never know.

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RE: Rumor: JetBlue To MHT

Tue Jan 30, 2007 8:56 am

Quoting Planemannyc (Reply 5):
As is OAK, but they are going to fly from SFO, too close to OAK.

Same can be said of LGA, EWR, SWF, and HPN vis-a-vis JFK.

Not even close to being the same travel wise. MHT grew directly to take business away from BOS. With jetBlue's market out of BOS they can offer no new cities that would make it worth picking one city over the other..
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RE: Rumor: JetBlue To MHT

Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:39 am

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 9):
Not even close to being the same travel wise. MHT grew directly to take business away from BOS. With jetBlue's market out of BOS they can offer no new cities that would make it worth picking one city over the other..

To be fair and accurate, MHT grew to take its own market back. Portions of southern NH are actually part of the Boston metro area and over the decades (say, mid-1980s -->) the region has been a magnet to companies and residents alike. While it's not inaccurate to say that MHT took business away from BOS, the real way to look at it is that MHT was finally able to serve its own market with its own airport. Population and job-growth outlooks still look bullish, with NH leading all six New England states in both categories.

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RE: Rumor: JetBlue To MHT

Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:52 am

After looking at some picture's I am almost positive it was Chris Lynch.
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RE: Rumor: JetBlue To MHT

Tue Jan 30, 2007 10:42 am

I'm no expert, but I'd say with B6 starting service to PWM only eight months ago, that MHT is too close-by in proximity? (75 miles by air, vs. 1 1/2 hours by car) I question whether B6 coming to both cities would also hurt load factors for the carrier at PWM and MHT, as the catchment area for a lot of the passengers would be overlapping in parts of southern Maine and eastern and northern New Hampshire? Alone, these areas provide enough demand for scheduled service, but not for two airports. If B6 came to MHT, than they would be serving BOS, MHT, and PWM all of which are within 100 miles of each other.

Any ideas on how many passengers living in Northern N.H, that MHT might draw away from BTV? Just something else to think about

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RE: Rumor: JetBlue To MHT

Tue Jan 30, 2007 10:44 am

I think there are bigger fish to fry then MHT.
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RE: Rumor: JetBlue To MHT

Tue Jan 30, 2007 10:55 am

Quoting PWM2TXLHopper (Reply 12):
I'm no expert, but I'd say with B6 starting service to PWM only eight months ago, that MHT is too close-by in proximity? (75 miles by air, vs. 1 1/2 hours by car) I question whether B6 coming to both cities would also hurt load factors for the carrier at PWM and MHT, as the catchment area for a lot of the passengers would be overlapping in parts of Southern Maine and Easter and Northern New Hampshire?

Excellent point. I agree that MHT would cannibalize the fragile PWM market. I say 'fragile' because it is: Between Labor Day and Memorial Day, the airport doesn't do all that well. It's an exceptionally seasonal place. So add MHT to the mix and jetBlue does themselves a disservice at PWM. Stack that atop the incumbent dominance by Southwest here and you have a perfect recipe for B6 to not come here. And, yes, jetBlue does have bigger fish to fry than MHT. That really wasn't up for debate. We kinda already understand that.

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