fspilot747
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Question About Traveling To Brazil

Fri Feb 02, 2007 2:19 am

When traveling to Brazil, if having lived in the U.S. for more than 1 year (almost 2--working), does the regulation that you can only bring back $500.00 worth of stuff still apply in Brazil? Or can you bring back more things? Do you declare all the electronics?

There is a laptop, digital camera, ipod, and a webcam worth more than $500.00 that was bought here, but if having lived in the U.S. for more than 1 year, I heard that it should be no problem bringing that stuff to Brazil.

Anyone have an idea?

Thanks.
 
longhaul67
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RE: Question About Traveling To Brazil

Fri Feb 02, 2007 2:46 am

Yeah I believe it still applies.
If you are bringing in used items you need to be able to produce receipts to prove date of purchase. Upon arrival you only need to list NEW stuff with a value exceeding USD 500 on the customs card.
I did the same thing in 2005, brought a large desktop PC w/monitor through GIG, and had no problems. But then again we were not stopped and asked to open our trunks. They pick people on a random basis who are required to open their trunks by hitting a button as you hand them your customs card.
 
ULMFlyer
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RE: Question About Traveling To Brazil

Fri Feb 02, 2007 3:20 pm

I believe it does NOT apply. I'll try to get more information from my sister who is a lawyer and has recently moved back from Paris to Rio (sigh...) You should also try to call your local embassy/consulate to confirm.

An additional problem will always be dealing with the mood of misinformed (if not corrupt) agents at your port of entry.

I can give you an example: after I moved to the US, I was visiting Rio and needed my laptop for work. So I called the federal police supervisor at GIG before my flight and asked if there was any provision for me not to pay any duty on it, since I'd be leaving the country a week later with the laptop. He told me that wasn't a problem, and I only needed to sign a document when I arrived and present my laptop when leaving and I'd be exempt. Sure enough, I arrive at GIG and the agents working there tell me there is no such provision, there never was, and I have to pay the import tax on the computer plus a fine. I try to argue (politely, as I'm not stupid and don't want to be arrested) and point out their lack of logic and rationality but it is to no avail. Fortunately, I remembered the name of their supervisor with whom I had talked on the phone a week before, and they finally let me go (naturally without admitting they were wrong).

Ridiculous. Either follow the law or don't. While I was there arguing, I saw the agents do the same thing with a professor who was returning after teaching for a couple of years at the University of Tokyo. One can imagine he was bringing a lot more in terms of electronics, and the agents were giving him a very hard time. I felt very ashamed of the country.

Anyway, my advice would be to get something in writing from your consulate/embassy to cover your arse and avoid a similar situation.

Cheers
Let's go Pens!
 
tonytifao
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RE: Question About Traveling To Brazil

Fri Feb 02, 2007 3:31 pm

Are you moving back to Brazil? Or just traveling on Biz or Leisure?

I travel to Brazil every month with my laptop, expensive digital camera, iPod, 2 cell phones. I never declare this kind of stuff, I just tell them it's my personal things and they let me go freely  Smile

Basically, if it's used and not in the boxes, I would not declare!
 
longhaul67
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RE: Question About Traveling To Brazil

Fri Feb 02, 2007 8:08 pm

Quoting ULMFlyer (Reply 2):
While I was there arguing, I saw the agents do the same thing with a professor who was returning after teaching for a couple of years at the University of Tokyo. One can imagine he was bringing a lot more in terms of electronics, and the agents were giving him a very hard time.

Jeez...thats incredible! If this is what business people have to go through every time they enter Brazil no wonder the economy is lagging behind
 
C010T3
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RE: Question About Traveling To Brazil

Sat Feb 03, 2007 3:15 am

Quoting FSPilot747 (Thread starter):
When traveling to Brazil, if having lived in the U.S. for more than 1 year (almost 2--working), does the regulation that you can only bring back $500.00 worth of stuff still apply in Brazil? Or can you bring back more things? Do you declare all the electronics?

No, that regulation doesn't apply to this situation. You have to prove to the consulate or embassy that you have been living in that country for more than one year. In order to know how to prove it in the US, contact your consulate. You'll receive an "Atestado de Residência" which you have to show to the Federal Police upon arrival or if you're sending a container, show them when you're asked to pay the taxes for the importing goods. You'll be able to take everything you own. As far as I'm concerned the traditional list of goods has been abolished.

[Edited 2007-02-02 19:16:49]
 
sampa737
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RE: Question About Traveling To Brazil

Sat Feb 03, 2007 3:25 am

I'm an American and have lived in Brasil for nearly 12 years; Campinas, Aracaju and now Sao Paulo. I've brought in digital cameras, computers and iPods. I've never been asked to pay anything and only 2 times have my bags ever been opened or x-rayed. I've flown through Rio and Sao Paulo. This past trip (arrived in SP Wednesday Jan 30), there was such an incredible huge long line that the customs guy just told folks to drop their forms in a box and move on. I've never shown a receipt, just telling customs that it's personal items. I've never declared anything.
 
fspilot747
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RE: Question About Traveling To Brazil

Sat Feb 03, 2007 3:57 am

Thanks to all for the very helpful responses.

Seems like not declaring our personal things should be the way to go. Nothing is new and/or in boxes.


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