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Any Chance Air Canada Operating YVR-MAN & YUL-MAN?

Sun Feb 04, 2007 12:13 am

I know a number of low-cost and charter carriers already operate to many canadian destinations from MAN, but do you think theres a chance of Air Canada expanding into MAN and operating flights to Vancouver and Montreal?

This would allow for much better connections to other parts of Canadan, and also allow for a decent airline to operate the route with good service, instead of the low-cost and charter carriers!

What do you think?
 
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RE: Any Chance Air Canada Operating YVR-MAN & YUL-MAN?

Sun Feb 04, 2007 12:16 am

I really don't see these routes being on AC's list of priorities as they are not high revenue-generating routes. Plus, Manchester is not a hub like LHR or FRA. AC now only flies to MAN from July 1 to September 23 with a 767-200.
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RE: Any Chance Air Canada Operating YVR-MAN & YUL-MAN?

Sun Feb 04, 2007 12:21 am

What I think....

I think it doesn't fit AC's model... AC would like more of the business traveler and the person who is looking to connect through to other places in the world. LHR is a HUGE hub for european connections.... so don't see it served by AC from YVR or YUL,

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RE: Any Chance Air Canada Operating YVR-MAN & YUL-MAN?

Sun Feb 04, 2007 6:27 am

YUL doesn't have that many links to the UK. YUL-LHR works with connections and the business links that there are. Beyond that theres only room for a few leisure flights. And AC dont do once/twice weekly leisure orientated flights to the UK
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RE: Any Chance Air Canada Operating YVR-MAN & YUL-MAN?

Sun Feb 04, 2007 6:59 am

I have to agree, I think the reason the charters do those routes is because they're popular with vacationers and tourists, not the business traveller. AC would be better off to use their resources flying to Asia and into other *Alliance hubs.
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RE: Any Chance Air Canada Operating YVR-MAN & YUL-MAN?

Mon Feb 05, 2007 10:25 pm

Quoting Matt (Reply 1):
AC now only flies to MAN from July 1 to September 23 with a 767-200.

And am not sure why it nothers with that frankly! It did used to codeshare with BD on the MAN YYZ route when BD operated that 3 years ago, but again that did not last either.

I would say a MAN YYC service would be mroe profitable, especially during the ski season.
 
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RE: Any Chance Air Canada Operating YVR-MAN & YUL-MAN?

Tue Feb 06, 2007 12:01 am

Quoting Humberside (Reply 3):
YUL doesn't have that many links to the UK.

Anymore. When Britain was the #1 source of immigration to Canada (right up until the early 1970's) British immigration to Quebec and all parts of Canada was strong. Indeed, BOAC operated a daily YYZ-YUL-PIK-MAN 707 from the late 60's to early 70's catering to the British immigrant market. Since the PQ was elected in 76, English-speakers and in particular British immigrants have been particularly unwelcome in Quebec, hence the lack of demand for YUL-UK x-LHR.

Quoting Jayce (Reply 4):
AC would be better off to use their resources flying to Asia and into other *Alliance hubs.

Or lowering their high cost base to make money on leisure markets such as MAN.

Quoting GayrugbyMAN (Reply 5):
And am not sure why it nothers with that frankly! It did used to codeshare with BD on the MAN YYZ route when BD operated that 3 years ago, but again that did not last either.

BD operated the MAN-YYZ route in summer 2004, which was the one year that AC did not operate the route.
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RE: Any Chance Air Canada Operating YVR-MAN & YUL-MAN?

Tue Feb 06, 2007 12:06 am

Quoting GayrugbyMAN (Reply 5):
And am not sure why it nothers with that frankly!

Peak UK and I assume Canadian school holiday period, and I doubt they'd keep coming back if the service didn't make money. I look upon UK - Ontario as very heavily seasonal (God forbid that any British person should ever go anywhere where the sun doesn't shine 12 months a year!)
 
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RE: Any Chance Air Canada Operating YVR-MAN & YUL-MAN?

Tue Feb 06, 2007 12:12 am

Personally I'd love to see an AC MAN-YVR service as it would make the connection from DUB way more pleasant than going via LHR.
As above though, can't see it ever happening.
For those of us who prefer to fly with the national carrier whenever possible, the choices of European hubs to fly out of will probably stay as is.
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RE: Any Chance Air Canada Operating YVR-MAN & YUL-MAN?

Tue Feb 06, 2007 12:13 am

Could create a discount- and cost-conscious airline based in Hamilton, near Toronto, and offer excellent value-for-money flights to key U.S. destinations, such as LAX, SFO, LAS, NYC, MCO, TPA, CHI, etc; to Europe, e.g. LON (overcapacity?), MAN (overcapacity?), BHX, PAR, DUB, AMS, etc; the Caribbean; Mexico; and within Canada itself. Then expand by creating a second base in Mirabel, near Montreal, and offer excellent value-for-money flights to key U.S. destinations, such as LAX, SFO, LAS, NYC, MCO, TPA, etc; to Europe, e.g. LON, PAR, etc; ........ and within Canada itself.  Silly
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