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DL JFK-SEA: All Flights The New Long Haul Product?

Sun Feb 04, 2007 12:11 pm

Are all the JFK-SEA flights the new Delta longhaul product with the Song features yet?
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RE: DL JFK-SEA: All Flights The New Long Haul Product?

Sun Feb 04, 2007 12:48 pm

Yes sir, every flight has leather seats and AVOD.
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RE: DL JFK-SEA: All Flights The New Long Haul Product?

Sun Feb 04, 2007 1:07 pm

As a general question, how does DL do on this route? It seems that the red-eye returns in March, and it's on-again, off-again. Hopefully it sticks around this time.
 
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RE: DL JFK-SEA: All Flights The New Long Haul Product?

Sun Feb 04, 2007 1:35 pm

Quoting RwSEA (Reply 2):
it's on-again, off-again

Perhaps because, for Delta, the route is motivated above all else by ego-driven reactionary retaliation against B6?
 
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RE: DL JFK-SEA: All Flights The New Long Haul Product?

Sun Feb 04, 2007 8:46 pm

Quoting RwSEA (Reply 2):
It seems that the red-eye returns in March, and it's on-again, off-again. Hopefully it sticks around this time.

It's seasonal. Winter sees 2x daily on JFK-SEA and spring/summer ramps back up to 3x daily.
 
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RE: DL JFK-SEA: All Flights The New Long Haul Product?

Sun Feb 04, 2007 10:38 pm

Does all the DL flight from JFK to LAX,SFO,LAS have the new product? Or is it on and off?
 
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RE: DL JFK-SEA: All Flights The New Long Haul Product?

Sun Feb 04, 2007 11:52 pm

Quoting Planetime (Reply 5):
Does all the DL flight from JFK to LAX,SFO,LAS have the new product? Or is it on and off?

Yes, the new product is on all current JFK-LAX/SFO/SEA/SAN/LAS flights and on 2 out of 3 JFK-SLC flights.
 
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RE: DL JFK-SEA: All Flights The New Long Haul Product?

Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:09 am

Quoting Panamair (Reply 6):
2 out of 3 JFK-SLC flights

Do they have plans to convert the 3rd flight to the new product, because if they don't this is the kind of inconsistancy that could cost them passengers.
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RE: DL JFK-SEA: All Flights The New Long Haul Product?

Mon Feb 05, 2007 1:21 am

I'm looking on seatguru and Delta.com, I can't find a 757 config with anything but 31"-32" pitch. I always thought that the new product was going to have 33"-34" pitch. Did they decide against this and put another row into the song planes?
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RE: DL JFK-SEA: All Flights The New Long Haul Product?

Mon Feb 05, 2007 1:21 am

Quoting JerseyGuy (Reply 7):
Do they have plans to convert the 3rd flight to the new product, because if they don't this is the kind of inconsistancy that could cost them passengers.

Eventually, all of the trans con flights will have the new product.
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RE: DL JFK-SEA: All Flights The New Long Haul Product?

Mon Feb 05, 2007 1:28 am

Quoting JerseyGuy (Reply 8):
I'm looking on seatguru and Delta.com, I can't find a 757 config with anything but 31"-32" pitch. I always thought that the new product was going to have 33"-34" pitch. Did they decide against this and put another row into the song planes?

Seat guru is not up to date. Look for 26 F class seats on a 757 when booking and this will be the new transcon product. Old product only had 24 F.
 
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RE: DL JFK-SEA: All Flights The New Long Haul Product?

Mon Feb 05, 2007 1:56 am

Quoting Surfdog75 (Reply 10):
Quoting JerseyGuy (Reply 8):
I'm looking on seatguru and Delta.com,

http://www.delta.com/planning_reserv..._layout/757_200_transcon/index.jsp

26F seats and it still says 31-32" pitch
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RE: DL JFK-SEA: All Flights The New Long Haul Product?

Mon Feb 05, 2007 2:18 am

Quoting Tango-Bravo (Reply 3):
Perhaps because, for Delta, the route is motivated above all else by ego-driven reactionary retaliation against B6?

And nothing to do with the fact that JFK is a DL hub.

Lolz.
 
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RE: DL JFK-SEA: All Flights The New Long Haul Product?

Mon Feb 05, 2007 2:38 am

Quoting JerseyGuy (Reply 11):
http://www.delta.com/planning_reserv..._layout/757_200_transcon/index.jsp

26F seats and it still says 31-32" pitch

The transcon 752 is 33" in coach.
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RE: DL JFK-SEA: All Flights The New Long Haul Product?

Mon Feb 05, 2007 2:56 am

Quoting HVNandrew (Reply 12):
Quoting Tango-Bravo (Reply 3):
Perhaps because, for Delta, the route is motivated above all else by ego-driven reactionary retaliation against B6?

And nothing to do with the fact that JFK is a DL hub.

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Quoting Alitalia744 (Reply 13):
The transcon 752 is 33" in coach.

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RE: DL JFK-SEA: All Flights The New Long Haul Product?

Mon Feb 05, 2007 9:51 am

I'll be going on DL SEA-ATL-SJO-ATL-SLC-ANC next month in business-elite

here are the configs for my flights, which ones will have AVOD?

ANC-SEA= On AS, I know what Im getting there!!!

SEA-ATL DL706= our status is set to "waitlist" even though we have paid and everything, I am going to call Delta about this in a few minutes. but the seat map won't come up (it is a "757-200")

ATL-SJO DL246= 22 seats with 5 rows on the left and 6 rows on the right.

SJO-ATL DL245= same as ATL-SJO

ATL-SLC DL623= 26 seat. 7 rows on the left, 6 on the right.

SLC-ANC DL1033= 22 seat. 5 rows on the left, 6 on the right

hmmm after just writting this down I am surprised because they switched around our fligths.. we use to have DL 1072 ATL-SCL on a 767-300 then 1035 from SLC-ANC... but I can't even find those fligths even up on delta's website.

One question I have is now that I see I have this new schedule, would it be worth taking a flight that leaves out of ATL at 5:50pm instead of 4:15pm which will arrive at 8:08 so that I can fly on the 767-400ER (there is only one flight from SLC to ANC a day and that is at 9:05, so I would still have time for the connection as long as we weren't delayed a heap in ATL)
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RE: DL JFK-SEA: All Flights The New Long Haul Product?

Mon Feb 05, 2007 10:11 am

In addition to the introduction of AVOD and new seat pitch, when is DL scheduled to re-introduce the "Song" branded catering that was ever so popular with everyone? It sounds like things are coming along fine with the refurbishment but now, what about the inflight catering?

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RE: DL JFK-SEA: All Flights The New Long Haul Product?

Mon Feb 05, 2007 10:15 am

Quoting LACA773 (Reply 16):
In addition to the introduction of AVOD and new seat pitch, when is DL scheduled to re-introduce the "Song" branded catering that was ever so popular with everyone? It sounds like things are coming along fine with the refurbishment but now, what about the inflight catering?

look for an announcement later this spring.
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RE: DL JFK-SEA: All Flights The New Long Haul Product?

Mon Feb 05, 2007 10:50 am

Will someone please tell me what AVOD is?
 
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RE: DL JFK-SEA: All Flights The New Long Haul Product?

Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:16 pm

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RE: DL JFK-SEA: All Flights The New Long Haul Product?

Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:24 pm

Quoting Alaskaqantas (Reply 15):

here are the configs for my flights, which ones will have AVOD?

ATL-SLC will have the new F cabin in it. Don't know about SEA-ATL; I do know that there are quite a few 757s in the new concept running though SEA though (ATL, SLC and JFK each get them).
 
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RE: DL JFK-SEA: All Flights The New Long Haul Product?

Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:28 pm

Quoting Alaskaqantas (Reply 15):
I'll be going on DL SEA-ATL-SJO-ATL-SLC-ANC next month in business-elite

You won't be travelling in the true BizElite product on any of those flights. They call it Business because you have the International leg. Any of the 757s you see with 7 rows up front have the AVOD while the ones with 6 rows do not have it.

Quoting Alaskaqantas (Reply 15):
would it be worth taking a flight that leaves out of ATL at 5:50pm instead of 4:15pm which will arrive at 8:08 so that I can fly on the 767-400ER

Unless you can get seat 7E or 7F the 764 isn't worth it over an AVOD 757. The seats are more narrow and the IFE isn't AVOD though on a flight like that you'll survive just fine. The only reason why those 2 seats make the 764 nice is they do duty as pilot rest seats so they have a buttload of legroom (about 50+" of pitch) and they recline alomst 180 degress though they don't have good legrests to support your legs.
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RE: DL JFK-SEA: All Flights The New Long Haul Product?

Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:37 pm

[quote=Alaskaqantas,reply=15]SEA-ATL DL706= our status is set to "waitlist" even though we have paid and everything, I am going to call Delta about this in a few minutes. but the seat map won't come up (it is a "757-200")

ATL-SJO DL246= 22 seats with 5 rows on the left and 6 rows on the right.

SJO-ATL DL245= same as ATL-SJO

ATL-SLC DL623= 26 seat. 7 rows on the left, 6 on the right.

ATL-SLC and SEA-ATL will have AVOD, other flights won't. Judging from what you are saying you are flying on one of the rare 4 757's Delta has from ATL-SJO-ATL. That means nothing special, just footrests.
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RE: DL JFK-SEA: All Flights The New Long Haul Product?

Mon Feb 05, 2007 9:44 pm

Does any of the 767-400ER that fly domestic have the AVOD on them? Or does the 767-400ER internationally have them?
 
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RE: DL JFK-SEA: All Flights The New Long Haul Product?

Mon Feb 05, 2007 9:54 pm

Quoting Planetime (Reply 23):
Does any of the 767-400ER that fly domestic have the AVOD on them?

Not yet. Currently there are non-AVOD PTVs at each F seat and just regular overhead IFE in Y; they will all be converted eventually to AVOD PTVs at every seat.

Quoting Planetime (Reply 23):
does the 767-400ER internationally have them?

Yes. So far, two out of the targeted eight have been refurbished and now have AVOD PTVs at every seat.
 
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RE: DL JFK-SEA: All Flights The New Long Haul Product?

Mon Feb 05, 2007 9:56 pm

Quoting Planetime (Reply 23):
Does any of the 767-400ER that fly domestic have the AVOD on them? Or does the 767-400ER internationally have them?

IIRC the only 764 with AVOD is the one (or however many now) that has been converted to the BizElite product up front. The others in domestic service have the old system in First and nothing bu the main screens in the back. I'm not sure of the schedules but you might see one of the 764s with BE making a domestic run now and then but not sure which routes.
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