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Airbus/Boeing -Orders And Commitments 2007.

Mon Feb 05, 2007 11:24 pm

AIRBUS 2007

AIRBUS A318

Comlux (Elite) x 2

AIRBUS A319

Spirit Airlines x 30

AIRBUS A320

Oman Air Force x 2
AirAsia x 50

AIRBUS A330

Flyington (A332F) x 6
Guggenheim (A332F) x 6
MNG Cargo (A332F) x 2
Intrepid (A332F) x 20

AIRBUS A340

VIP (A343) x 1
VIP (A345) x 1

NB: 84 frames
WB: 36 frames

Total: 120 frames.



BOEING 2007

BOEING B767

United Parcel Service (B763F) x 27

BOEING B777

UFO x 5

BOEING B787

UFO x 4

NB: 0
WB: 36

Total: 36 frames


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RE: Airbus/Boeing -Orders And Commitments 2007.

Tue Feb 06, 2007 12:09 am

How comparable are 767-300Fs and A300-600Fs?
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Tue Feb 06, 2007 12:18 am

Great topic Wings!  thumbsup 

Quoting N328KF (Reply 1):
How comparable are 767-300Fs and A300-600Fs?

For starters, the 767F is still on offer, while Airbus announced 'last call' for orders for the A300F in the spring of 2006.
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Tue Feb 06, 2007 1:06 am

Quoting Manni (Reply 2):
For starters, the 767F is still on offer, while Airbus announced 'last call' for orders for the A300F in the spring of 2006.

That wouldn't affect this situation. UPS had A300Fs on order, and by my read, these 767Fs could directly fill that role. I do not know for certain, hence my question (which is technical in nature.)
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Tue Feb 06, 2007 1:10 am

What odds would anyone of given for B to of sold 36 wides and no narrows after the first month of the year?

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Tue Feb 06, 2007 1:16 am

Quoting N328KF (Reply 3):
UPS had A300Fs on order, and by my read, these 767Fs could directly fill that role.

They could do even more then the A300F. They could carry about 5 tonnes of freight more and about 400NM further then the A300F. I dont know wether they are more fuel efficient.
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Tue Feb 06, 2007 1:25 am

Quoting N328KF (Reply 1):
How comparable are 767-300Fs and A300-600Fs?

The 767-300F has a bit more underfloor volume while the A300-600F has a bit more overhead volume. Payload is about the same, but the 767-300F can carry it about 600nm farther.

Still, the A300F had until today outsold the 767 by a five-to-one margin (259 to 50) so it is evidently preferred by carriers.
 
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RE: Airbus/Boeing -Orders And Commitments 2007.

Tue Feb 06, 2007 11:44 pm

UPDATE:

AIRBUS A330

Avion Aircraft Trading (A332F) x 6

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Wed Feb 07, 2007 2:01 am

Why does the A330F image show a lump on the front (by the front landing gear)? Is it because they'll have to strengthen it? Just curious..
On a side note, the A330F starts to appear as the best looking twin freighter!
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Wed Feb 07, 2007 2:09 am

Quote:
PARIS (Dow Jones)--Franco-German aerospace group Airbus Tuesday said it garnered a total 90 orders for its aircraft in January, and that it delivered 34 planes.

http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20070206-709637.html (Subscription)
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Wed Feb 07, 2007 3:58 am

The Airbus orders/deliveries spreadsheet has been updated for January 2007:

http://airbus.com/odxml/orders_and_deliveries.xls

Looks as though Mr. Chew of SQ did not fulfill his December "pledge" to sign a firm order for the A350 by the end of January.

See: http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...-leasing-19-a330s-and-placing.html
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Wed Feb 07, 2007 4:06 am

Quoting Atnight (Reply 8):
Why does the A330F image show a lump on the front (by the front landing gear)? Is it because they'll have to strengthen it? Just curious..

The A330-200 has a slight "nose-down" attitude which is not conducive to loading cargo ( though it does make unloading it a bit easier.  Wink ).

Therefore, the A330-200F will have a slightly longer nose-gear strut. This means the wheels won't fit in the current bay, so they had to add a forward structure to contain it.
 
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RE: Airbus/Boeing -Orders And Commitments 2007.

Wed Feb 07, 2007 4:11 am

Quoting Leelaw (Reply 10):
The Airbus orders/deliveries spreadsheet has been updated for January 2007:

How can you tell what was actually ordered and booked on this page in only January 2007?
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Wed Feb 07, 2007 4:17 am

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 12):
How can you tell what was actually ordered and booked on this page in only January 2007?

Move the tab on the bottom of the spreadsheet to the left, from "worldwide" to orders, then click on the "orders" tab.
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Wed Feb 07, 2007 4:18 am

Quoting Stitch (Reply 11):
The A330-200 has a slight "nose-down" attitude which is not conducive to loading cargo ( though it does make unloading it a bit easier. ).

Therefore, the A330-200F will have a slightly longer nose-gear strut. This means the wheels won't fit in the current bay, so they had to add a forward structure to contain it.

Many Thanks Stitch! I always like your posts... btw, are there any structure desings for the A330F available?
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Wed Feb 07, 2007 4:35 am

AIRBUS UPDATE:


AIRBUS A318

Comlux (Elite) x 2

AIRBUS A319

Spirit Airlines x 30
VIP (A319 ACJ) x 1 (* pending)

[b]AIRBUS A320


Oman Air Force x 2 (* pending)
AirAsia x 50

AIRBUS A330

Guggenheim (A332F) x 6
MNG Cargo (A332F) x 2 (* pending)
Flyington (A332F) x 6 (* pending)
Intrepid (A332F) x 20 (* pending)
Avion Aircraft Trading (A332F) x 6 (* pending)

AIRBUS A340

VIP (A343) x 1
VIP (A345) x 1

TOTAL FIRM: 90 frames.
TOTAL PENDING: 37 frames.


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RE: Airbus/Boeing -Orders And Commitments 2007.

Wed Feb 07, 2007 4:51 am

BOEING UPDATE:

BOEING 737-900

Azerbaijan Airlines x 2 (* pending)

BOEING 767

United Parcel Service (B763F) x 27 (* pending)

BOEING 777

UFO x 5

BOEING 787

UFO x 4
Azerbaijan Airlines x 3 (* pending

TOTAL FIRM: 9 frames
TOTAL PENDING: 32 frames


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Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:23 pm

Quoting Stitch (Reply 11):
the A330-200F will have a slightly longer nose-gear strut.

Not exactly. It's the same old strut, but mounted lower.
 
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Wed Feb 07, 2007 6:05 pm

AIRBUS WINS FIRST ASIAN CUSTOMER FOR VIP A340-500

Airbus has won its first Asian customer for a VIP version of its ultra long-haul A340-500 – highlighting the aircraft’s growing appeal to private customers. The deal is the third for the VIP A340 that Airbus has announced this year, and is in addition to five orders for Airbus Corporate Jetliner (ACJ) Family aircraft.



AIRBUS A340

VIP (A343) x 1
VIP (A345) x 1
VIP (A345) x 1 (* pending)

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Wed Feb 07, 2007 10:00 pm

AIRBUS ORDER UPDATE

AIRBUS A320

British Airways x 4 (* pending)

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Wed Feb 07, 2007 10:13 pm

Quoting WINGS (Reply 19):
British Airways x 4 (* pending)

Was this announced today, or did you forget about it before?
 
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Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:08 pm

Quoting Slz396 (Reply 20):

Was this announced today, or did you forget about it before?

This particular order passed me completely. It was announced when BA announced it's quarterly results. This order was a conversion from BA existing options for the A32X, with delivery to start in 2008.

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Thu Feb 08, 2007 4:24 am

AIRBUS UPDATE: 07-02-2007

AIRBUS A318

Comlux (Elite) x 2


AIRBUS A319

Spirit Airlines x 30
VIP (ACJ) x 1 (* pending)

AIRBUS A320

AirAsia x 50
British Airways x 4 (* pending)
Oman Air Force x 2 (* pending)


AIRBUS A330

Guggenheim (A332F) x 6
MNG Cargo (A332F) x 2 (* pending)
Flyington (A332F) x 6 (* pending)
Intrepid (A332F) x 20 (* pending)
Avion Aircraft Trading (A332F) x 6 (* pending)

AIRBUS A340

VIP (A343) x 1
VIP (A345) x 1
VIP (A345) x 1 (* pending)


TOTAL FIRM: 90 frames.
TOTAL PENDING: 42 frames.


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Thu Feb 08, 2007 5:05 am

Quoting WINGS (Reply 22):
British Airways x 4

Are they to replace the few oldest A320-100s that have gone to airplane heaven?  tombstone 

[Edited 2007-02-07 21:17:06]
 
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Thu Feb 08, 2007 5:12 am

WINGS, I appreciate the updates, but reposting all the pictures over and over creates bandwidth and page load issues.

Maybe you can post pictures as followup only when it's of the livery for the airline doing the ordering?  Smile

Quoting Manni (Reply 5):
They could do even more then the A300F. They could carry about 5 tonnes of freight more and about 400NM further then the A300F. I dont know wether they are more fuel efficient.

What about takeoff performance? UPS flies A300s into BUR, for example. Can the 767F do that?
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Thu Feb 08, 2007 5:23 am

Quoting WINGS (Reply 16):
Azerbaijan Airlines x 2 (* pending)



Quoting WINGS (Reply 16):
Azerbaijan Airlines x 3 (* pending

Are those now firm?
Azerbaijan Airline, Boeing Sign Deal (by Katekebo Feb 6 2007 in Civil Aviation)
 
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Fri Feb 09, 2007 5:45 pm



BOEING B737

UFO x 1
Azerbaijan Airlines (B737-900ER) x 2 (* pending)

BOEING B767

UFO x 3
United Parcel Servive (B763F) x 27 (* pending)

BOEING B777

UFO x 5

BOEING B787

UFO x 4
Azerbaijan Airlines (B787-800) x 3 (* pending)


TOTAL FIRM: 13 frames.
TOTAL PENDING: 32 frames.


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RE: Airbus/Boeing -Orders And Commitments 2007.

Sat Feb 10, 2007 2:45 am

AIRBUS ORDER UPDATE:

AIRBUS A320

Air One x (A320-200) x 10 (ORDERED IN 2006) ?

Air One orders ten more A320s
9 February 2007

Air One has announced today the purchase of a further ten A320s, following contracts signed with Airbus in November and December last year. The Rome based airline, the second largest in Italy, has now firmly ordered a total of 40 A320s and has a further 25 options and 25 purchase rights, according to the initial agreement announced in January 2006.


http://www.airbus.com/en/presscentre...tems/07_02_09_Air_One_A320_EN.html


This particular order seems to be rather misleading. Airbus only lists one UFO for 5x A320-200 in 2006. If we look at the number of A320-200 order by Air One, on the Airbus spread sheet it lists 35 frames ordered. This leads me to believe that they have now placed a new order for an additional 5 frames in 2007 taking it's total to 40 frames on firm order.

Maybe someone can clarify this situation.

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Sat Feb 10, 2007 2:48 am

Quoting WINGS (Reply 27):
Air One x (A320-200) x 10 (* pending)

No sir. Read the press release again. . . these are 2006 orders.

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Sat Feb 10, 2007 2:51 am

Wow I see good chances for Airbus to "win" Boeing this year , Wait´til, le bourget
and we´ll see more orders for Airbus , Maybe a LH 350X order  cloudnine 

Is there a reason for this difference between A and B ? Why has B so few orders and A so many ?
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Sat Feb 10, 2007 2:58 am

Quoting LHStarAlliance (Reply 29):
Is there a reason for this difference between A and B? Why has B so few orders and A so many?

If you are into conspiracy theories, one could suggest that Airbus, knowing they were not going to be able to beat Boeing in 2006, instead held off on signing orders to allow them to "front load" 2007.

Since I am not into conspiracy theories, I imagine it's just the natural cycle of orders. Airbus has just launched a new model - the A332F - and it's seeing it's launch orders. Airbus also signed two large narrowbody expansion orders from SK and AK.

But we're only six weeks into 2007. No reason for Boeing to worry just as Airbus didn't have to worry about Boeing's strong launch in the start of 2006.  Smile
 
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RE: Airbus/Boeing -Orders And Commitments 2007.

Sat Feb 10, 2007 3:09 am

Quoting Stitch (Reply 30):

Thanks for your answer Stitch ! Wink

Quoting Stitch (Reply 30):
But we're only six weeks into 2007. No reason for Boeing to worry just as Airbus didn't have to worry about Boeing's strong launch in the start of 2006. Smile

I agree I see B announcing a big order in le bourget of BA or LH , In presume LH will buy at least 13 783 and BA many 748 .

So I see chances still 50-50

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RE: Airbus/Boeing -Orders And Commitments 2007.

Sat Feb 10, 2007 3:09 am

Quoting Hamlet69 (Reply 28):
No sir. Read the press release again. . . these are 2006 orders.

Hi Hamlet, You may indeed be correct, although the facts don't add up. Airbus currently lists 35 x A320 ordered by Airone on it's ORDER SPREAD SHEET. This leads me to think that they disclosed the UFO from DEC 2006 and now placed an order for 5 more A320's in 2007.

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Sat Feb 10, 2007 3:47 am

Quoting WINGS (Reply 32):
You may indeed be correct, although the facts don't add up.

Ummmmm. . . . . I'm not sure how you can say that, as Airbus themselves have stated it is so. The press release specifically says:

"Air One has announced today the purchase of a further ten A320s, following contracts signed with Airbus in November and December last year." (my emphasis)

When we look at the Airbus spreadsheet, we indeed see Air One ordered 5 A320's on 2-November, and 5 Undisclosed orders on 7-December. 5 + 5 = 10.  Wink

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Tue Feb 13, 2007 2:40 am

AIRBUS A380

VIP (Flying Palace) x 1 (LOI -letter of intent)

Airbus reveals letter of intent for VIP A380 'Flying Palace'
By David Kaminski-Morrow

Airbus has revealed that it has a preliminary deal to supply a VIP-configured A380 aircraft to an unidentified customer, the first such agreement for the type.

Details of the arrangement are sketchy but Airbus chief operating officer for customers John Leahy tells ATI he has a letter of intent to supply a VIP version of the jet.


http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...of-intent-for-vip-a380-flying.html

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Tue Feb 13, 2007 4:35 am

Quoting Stitch (Reply 30):
Airbus also signed two large narrowbody expansion orders from SK and AK.

SK? Are you sure about this, or is it just a rumor or maybe a typo?

No one on any Scandinavian forums have heard any news about any orders from SK
 
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Tue Feb 13, 2007 4:41 am

Quoting Someone83 (Reply 35):
SK? Are you sure about this, or is it just a rumor or maybe a typo?

Typo. I meant NK - Spirit Airlines.  Embarrassment
 
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Wed Feb 14, 2007 5:54 pm

AIRBUS A330

Thai Airways International (A333) x 8 (* pending)

Thai Airways board approves Airbus orders
BANGKOK, Feb 14 (Reuters) - The board of Thai Airways International approved plans on Wednesday to buy eight Airbus A330-300 aircraft and to keep its order for six A380 superjumbo planes.


http://asia.news.yahoo.com/070214/3/2xgxi.html

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Wed Feb 14, 2007 6:05 pm

Petters Group Worldwide (PGW) has signed a contract for an Airbus A318 Elite, becoming the first US customer for the type. Based in Minneapolis, Minnesota, PGW plans to use its A318 Elite for flights to Asia and Europe - as well as within the USA.

The order takes deals this year for Airbus Corporate Jets to nine - comprising three A318s, one A319, two A320s and three VIP A340s, marking an excellent start to the year.

http://www.airbus.com/en/presscentre..._13_A318Elite_PettersGroup_EN.html
 
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Fri Feb 16, 2007 2:05 am

AIRBUS 2007 ORDER UPDATE:

AIRBUS A318

Comlux (Elite) x 2
Petters Group Worldwide (Elite) x 1 (* pending)


AIRBUS A319

Spirit Airlines x 30
VIP (ACJ) x 1 (* pending)

AIRBUS A320

AirAsia x 50
British Airways x 4 (* pending)
Oman Air Force x 2 (* pending)


AIRBUS A330

Guggenheim (A332F) x 6
Thai Airways International (A333) x 8 (* pending)
MNG Cargo (A332F) x 2 (* pending)
Flyington (A332F) x 6 (* pending)
Intrepid (A332F) x 20 (* pending)
Avion Aircraft Trading (A332F) x 6 (* pending)

AIRBUS A340

VIP (A343) x 1
VIP (A345) x 1
VIP (A345) x 1 (* pending)

AIRBUS A380

VIP (Flying Palace) x 1 (LOI -letter of intent)


TOTAL FIRM: 90 frames.
TOTAL PENDING: 52 frames


BOEING 2007 ORDER UPDATE:



BOEING B737

UFO x 1
Azerbaijan Airlines (B737-900ER) x 2 (* pending)

BOEING B767

UFO x 3
United Parcel Servive (B763F) x 27 (* pending)

BOEING B777

UFO x 5

BOEING 787

UFO x 5
UFO x 4
Azerbaijan Airlines (B787-800) x 3 (* pending)

TOTAL FIRM: 18 frames
TOTAL PENDING: 32 frames


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Fri Feb 16, 2007 3:39 am

More orders coming from CIT:

5 A332F
10 A320
CIT Group Orders 5 Airbus A330Fs & 10 A320s (by Leelaw Feb 15 2007 in Civil Aviation)
 
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RE: Airbus/Boeing -Orders And Commitments 2007.

Fri Feb 16, 2007 4:09 am

Quoting EI321 (Reply 40):
More orders coming from CIT:

5 A332F
10 A320

CIT Group Orders 5 Airbus A330Fs & 10 A320s (by Leelaw Feb 15 2007 in Civil Aviation)

Hi EI321,

This particular order was booked in December 2006. It is for the following aircraft.

A319 x 3
A320 x 7
A332 x 5


Airbus still has one UFO from 2006 that has yet to be identified, for the following aircraft.

A319 x 9
A320 x 18

(it's also wise to note that this order is for a new Airbus operator.)
If I had to make a guess I would say it's Avianca.

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Sat Feb 17, 2007 1:31 am

Air One has ordered ten new Airbus A320's, exercising ten of the sixty options and purchase rights it had reserved last year when the first thirty A320's were ordered. In total, Air One now has committed to 40 aircraft and has a further 50 options and purchase rights.

http://www.easier.com/view/Travel/Flights/News/article-100493.html

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RE: Airbus/Boeing -Orders And Commitments 2007.

Sat Feb 17, 2007 1:33 am

Quoting Keesje (Reply 42):
Air One has ordered ten new Airbus A320's, exercising ten of the sixty options and purchase rights it had reserved last year when the first thirty A320's were ordered. In total, Air One now has committed to 40 aircraft and has a further 50 options and purchase rights.

Very old news, see reply 27 in this thread.
 
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Sat Feb 17, 2007 8:43 am

It's likely that we'll see orders for 2x A319ACJ and 2xA318Elite by the German Air Force around this year. Rumors are quite specific meanwhile and last contenders of the A318Elite have been voted out recently. The decision on the A319ACJ was reportedly as "unofficially firm" for quite a while now. As funding will spread across many budgets and might involve leasing, one can expect an order within this year, I guess.
 
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Sat Feb 17, 2007 9:05 am

Quoting Slz396 (Reply 38):
Petters Group Worldwide (PGW) has signed a contract for an Airbus A318 Elite, becoming the first US customer for the type.

This was reported last year. Curious that it took this long to sign the contract.

Quoting WINGS (Reply 39):
VIP (A345) x 1 (* pending)

This Flightglobal report stopped short of naming the customer.....

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...st-as-it-rings-up-orders-from.html
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RE: Airbus/Boeing -Orders And Commitments 2007.

Sun Feb 18, 2007 1:14 am

Quoting WINGS (Reply 41):
Airbus still has one UFO from 2006 that has yet to be identified, for the following aircraft.

Airbus also still has an UFO order booked in January 2006.
 
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RE: Airbus/Boeing -Orders And Commitments 2007.

Sun Feb 18, 2007 3:05 pm

Quoting PADSpot (Reply 44):
and 2xA318Elite by the German Air Force around this year. Rumors are quite specific meanwhile and last contenders of the A318Elite have been voted out recently.

If that pushes through, those would be the first two A318 Elites in government service which would be owned directly by a government or leased, instead of being chartered ....

http://www.airbus.com/store/photolib...lowres_A318Elite_CFMengines_mr.jpg
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RE: Airbus/Boeing -Orders And Commitments 2007.

Tue Feb 20, 2007 6:03 am

At the request of the member who started this thread, Wings, this thread is being archived. Thank you.
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