Crossair News *Interesting*

Fri Jul 21, 2000 5:25 am

According to a Crossair employee, crossair plans to fit PTVs on the Md83(or its successor) and the ERJ-170/190. The ERJ-145 will surely not have it as the aircraft is to small. All aircraft already have footrests.
Can you imagine that? Footrests and PTVs on an ERJ?
They have so far ordered 85 ERJs and still have 115 options making them the biggest embraer customer in europe.

They would also like to begin transatlantic services from Basle to Boston and New York. The aircraft would be either an A-319 or B-737IGW.

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RE: Crossair News *Interesting*

Fri Jul 21, 2000 7:47 am

Thats intresting news but I don't know if the A319 and 737 have ETOPS clearance over the Atlantic? It would be easier for them to use one of Swissairs A330-200s
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RE: Crossair News *Interesting*

Fri Jul 21, 2000 11:33 am

The 737-700 (for sure) and the A319 (I'm almost positive) have 180 mins. ETOPS clearance, which is more than accurate for trans-Atlantic flights.

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RE: Crossair News *Interesting*

Fri Jul 21, 2000 12:08 pm

If they do go ahead with the trans-atlantic route, it has been said that they will order the 737-700 with winglets to do the run.
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RE: Crossair News *Interesting*

Fri Jul 21, 2000 2:00 pm

They could use A319s. Aircanada was supposed to fly a few across the Atlantic, but that never came about.
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RE: Crossair News *Interesting*

Fri Jul 21, 2000 5:13 pm

Another rumour was, that Crossair might offer code share flights on trans atlantic flights of Swissair. I think, at the end it will be a decision in coordination with SAirGroup and Qualiflyer.

One thing is sure: They can put as much PTV's and footrests in those aircraft as they want, but I would NEVER sit in a narrowbody for so many hours. Be it the 737 with winglets or the A319.

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RE: Crossair News *Interesting*

Sat Jul 22, 2000 6:27 am

I agree with Gerardo I would never ever take a transatlantic flight in a narrowbody. We are not in the 1960s anymore.
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RE: Crossair News *Interesting*

Sat Jul 22, 2000 6:44 am

I thought that we would find this interesting.

"My mother knows Moritz Suter quite well. He has hinted several times in
several publications that he will purchase the B 737! BUT do not forget it is only a special version of the B 737 700 (737 700 IGW It has to be the 737 700 fuselage with the 800 wing and undercarrige)"

Jeremiah Teahan

This was posted when the the 737 v. A319 comparisons began. Can anyone come up with the range and payload capabilities of these two aircraft?
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RE: Crossair News *Interesting*

Fri Aug 25, 2000 1:51 pm

Can anyone show me the actual post I said that. Becuase my mother does not know Moritz Suter quite well. Is someone abusing of my password and username.

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RE: Crossair News *Interesting*

Fri Aug 25, 2000 2:47 pm

I think I'd be pretty interesting to take a trip on a 737 or 319 to the US.
I also do like widebodys but why not doing it once ?? My best of this kind was taking a 757-200 from STR to KEF to YYC to YVR (CMM).
The KEF - YYC segment was 6h15minz.

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RE: Crossair News *Interesting*

Fri Aug 25, 2000 2:53 pm

Technically, i think it is passible to do the crossing ona 737 and mebbe on the A319 as well. But imagine sitting for so long in a narrowbody!

I wouldnt take that choice for sure. Esp. with so many widebody choices available.

Secoandly, the route structure demands a 757 type of aircraft. How viable would the 737 be?
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RE: Crossair News *Interesting*

Fri Aug 25, 2000 5:29 pm

A few years ago I know Conair flew A320 charters from Oslo - Cancun via Bangor. Therefore, I think the A319 can fly across the Atlantic to the US east coast.
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737 Switzerland - America

Sat Aug 26, 2000 6:33 am

About 2 years ago, the short-lived "Swiss World Airways" intended to add narrowbody routes to it's transatlantic flights with the 767-200 ex Geneva.

From the November 1998 IATA schedule conference i still have their draft timetable for the summer 1999 season (well, they actually ceased operations I think in December 1998.....). This timetable also included nonstop 737-700 IGW flights between Basle and Newark as well as - if I remember right - Geneva-Washington and Geneva-Montreal.

BTW, what's so wrong with a narrowbody transatlantic flight?? Do you think you have more room on a widebody? Hmm... I wouldn't bet on that..... take a 6-10h flight in seat 75F in a 747, seeing only hundreds of heads in front of you and you will yearn for a window or aisle seat in a 757 or least I would do...

My favorite place on board a widebody is either the space next to the galley or the upper deck, where you dont have this mass transport or cinema-like feeling...

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