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Airbus Launches A380 Publicity Drive

Wed Feb 07, 2007 6:07 pm

Airbus is to show off A380 to journalists in TLS today with flight also.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/default.stm

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RE: Airbus Launches A380 Publicity Drive

Wed Feb 07, 2007 6:08 pm

Full steam ahead for the A380 now - they must but very, very, very sure that there will be no more delays
 
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RE: Airbus Launches A380 Publicity Drive

Wed Feb 07, 2007 6:31 pm

Quoting Scouseflyer (Reply 1):
they must but very, very, very sure that there will be no more delays

You never know with publicity/advertising types. It's equally possible that they're trying to put over the idea that it's going to be so GOOD when (if?) it finally arrives that a further 'minor' delay won't matter.  Smile
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RE: Airbus Launches A380 Publicity Drive

Wed Feb 07, 2007 6:46 pm

Todays a day I wish I were a journalist!!!! Cant wait to get onboard.
 
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Wed Feb 07, 2007 7:04 pm

From an Air France press release, today:

Today, Wednesday February 7, three managers from Air France's Cabin Crew division will join the crew on board an A380 flight organized by Airbus for the press.

Air France is the first European airline to operate the Airbus A380 and has placed a firm order on 10 aircraft, with another 4 on option. It will take delivery of the first three aircraft during 2009 IATA summer season.

Air France has chosen the GP7200 engine, specially developed by Engine Alliance (a joint venture between General Electric and Pratt & Whitney), to power this four-engined, new-generation aircraft, and a cabin configuration of 538 seats in three classes. The A380 will operate on flights to Asia and North America.
 
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RE: Airbus Launches A380 Publicity Drive

Wed Feb 07, 2007 8:09 pm

Yeah I was wondering about this. I was at Toulouse airport at around 10am this morning and saw a stand set up in arrivals saying "A380 MEDIA FLIGHT". I also noticed one of the 380's parked at the new Airbus Delivery Centre with an airbridge connected to it, so they'll also be showing off their new delivery centre.
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RE: Airbus Launches A380 Publicity Drive

Wed Feb 07, 2007 8:28 pm

Best joke (well, more accurately, 'thoughtful comment') I ever heard about publicity was from a lecture given by a British 'industry leader' when I was a student:-

"I have been convinced for some time that fully half of my own company's publicity budget is wasted. All I have to do now is decide WHICH half......."

Forget his name (he was Lord Someone). But, for my money, he was dead right..........
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RE: Airbus Launches A380 Publicity Drive

Wed Feb 07, 2007 8:43 pm

I would not count packing journalists into an A380 and flying them around as a good candidate for the wasted half. Most liekly they will come out and say that it is big.

Airbus is in need on good press now, especially in Germany and France where there is much more concern about loosing jobs than about A380 delivery dates.
 
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Wed Feb 07, 2007 10:07 pm

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Around 200 journalists boarded the fourth of five dedicated Airbus A380 test aircraft earlier today for the programme's first public flight. It comes as launch customer Singapore Airlines (SIA) confirms it Singapore-Sydney will be the first route to use the ultralarge airliner in revenue service, to be followed by Singapore-London.

At around 13:00 manufacturer's serial number 007 took off from Toulouse with journalists from several countries and media for a 2h flight over the Atlantic Ocean. The aircraft (thought to have been given the registration F-WWJB in reference to its 007 serial number and nicknamed "James Bond" in Airbus circles) had previously been used for the April 2006 Hamburg evacuation trials, when it was kitted out with a high-density cabin incorporating 853 passenger seats...

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...ey-route-will-be-worlds-first.html
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Wed Feb 07, 2007 10:13 pm

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Leahy told Reuters on board the plane that Airbus expects to sell 800 or 900 A380 aircraft over the life of the programme.

Leahy said he did not expect further A380 cancellations after U.S. express service FedEx (FDX.N: Quote, Profile , Research) cancelled 10 planes last year.

http://today.reuters.com/news/articl...A380-UPDATE-1.XML&rpc=66&type=qcna

The wording does not exclude the conversion of an existing order into other types, but in general it seems that Airbus is more or less through this affair.
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RE: Airbus Launches A380 Publicity Drive

Wed Feb 07, 2007 10:33 pm

Quoting Flying-Tiger (Reply 9):

EADS at E25.40 per share today - would have been a good investment last July at E18.00 ....  Wink

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RE: Airbus Launches A380 Publicity Drive

Wed Feb 07, 2007 10:43 pm

Quoting Astuteman (Reply 10):
EADS at E25.40 per share today - would have been a good investment last July at E18.00 ....

Not as good as "selling short" on 3/27/06 when EADS was trading for Eu35.42, particularly if you "covered" on 6/14/06 when the stock sunk to Eu16.75.  Smile
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RE: Airbus Launches A380 Publicity Drive

Wed Feb 07, 2007 10:47 pm

Quoting Flying-Tiger (Reply 9):
The wording does not exclude the conversion of an existing order into other types, but in general it seems that Airbus is more or less through this affair.

"Count not thy chickens lest they get Avian flu and thou be unable to sell the wire netting", should be the new phrase especially in relation to new airplanes!

Still you would hope that after all the stumbles backwards, it might be time for one forwards. And as for:

Quoting Astuteman (Reply 10):
EADS at E25.40 per share today

we are left with the choices of the market knows all and the market is stupid. Anyone else for a game of two up?
 
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RE: Airbus Launches A380 Publicity Drive

Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:38 pm

Flight International has published photos from the 519 seat cabin of MSN007 (F-WWJB):







http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...irst-public-flight-today-from.html

[Edited 2007-02-07 15:40:16]

[Edited 2007-02-07 15:42:07]
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RE: Airbus Launches A380 Publicity Drive

Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:47 pm

Quoting Leelaw (Reply 13):
Flight International has published photos from the cabin of MSN007 (F-WWJB):

9-abreast economy on the main-deck, according to the article, in a 519 seat layout.....  cloudnine 

Bovine luxury, indeed  Smile

Thanx for the link.

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RE: Airbus Launches A380 Publicity Drive

Thu Feb 08, 2007 12:03 am

Quoting Astuteman (Reply 14):
9-abreast economy on the main-deck, according to the article, in a 519 seat layout.....

Bovine luxury, indeed

I think this is an aspect one needs to see with his own eyes to fully grasp, since seat configurations are bull matter when looked at on paper.

One of the reasons why Airbus has invited the press to fly on this A380 too, in my view: to get a more critical view on the 748i seat count and comfort claims of Boeing.
 
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RE: Airbus Launches A380 Publicity Drive

Thu Feb 08, 2007 12:32 am

Clever for Airbus to take only 200 journalists/media for a ride, if there were 519 butts in the seats the impressions of the reporters regarding the flight may be quite different.
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RE: Airbus Launches A380 Publicity Drive

Thu Feb 08, 2007 1:32 am

Quoting Slz396 (Reply 15):
One of the reasons why Airbus has invited the press to fly on this A380 too, in my view: to get a more critical view on the 748i seat count and comfort claims of Boeing.

How are they going to be able to draw a comparison, unless they ride on a 748 too?

Do you really think the purpose of this flight is to get journalists to write 748 bashing stories?

Quoting Flying-Tiger (Reply 9):
Leahy told Reuters on board the plane that Airbus expects to sell 800 or 900 A380 aircraft over the life of the programme.

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RE: Airbus Launches A380 Publicity Drive

Thu Feb 08, 2007 1:44 am

Quoting Astuteman (Reply 14):
9-abreast economy on the main-deck, according to the article, in a 519 seat layout.....

If one were to install an equal number of identical F and C class seats on a 748i and fill the rest of the cabin with economy seats of similar width as those on the A380, what would be the seat count????
 
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RE: Airbus Launches A380 Publicity Drive

Thu Feb 08, 2007 2:03 am

Quoting Slz396 (Reply 18):
If one were to install an equal number of identical F and C class seats on a 748i and fill the rest of the cabin with economy seats of similar width as those on the A380, what would be the seat count????

You just asked this same question in another thread here.
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RE: Airbus Launches A380 Publicity Drive

Thu Feb 08, 2007 2:35 am

is this the same flight that had a "bumpy" landing???
http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...s-media-flight-of-airbus-a380.html
 
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RE: Airbus Launches A380 Publicity Drive

Thu Feb 08, 2007 3:08 am

Sorry to interupt the usual bashing.

But will Airbus fly the A380 to the US any time soon? Considering airlines ARE planning on using it to the US, I'd think this would be a natural tour stop for publicity.

I'm anxious to see it at LAX...

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RE: Airbus Launches A380 Publicity Drive

Thu Feb 08, 2007 3:10 am

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 25):
That 9 abreast Y config is a joke on the A380. Nobody is going to waste that much space on Y pax, especially in a high density configuration.

Is it just me or didn't SQ say they will have 474 seats on their A380? So, why is this one with 519 seats with 9-abreast Y config a joke?
 
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RE: Airbus Launches A380 Publicity Drive

Thu Feb 08, 2007 3:11 am

"Flying on the A380: like an A340 on top and a 747 below" by Brendan Sobie of Airline Business:

http://www.bizbuzzmedia.com/blogs/airline/archive/2007/02/07/6875.aspx
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Thu Feb 08, 2007 3:21 am

Quoting Travelin man (Reply 29):
Sorry to interupt the usual bashing.

But will Airbus fly the A380 to the US any time soon? Considering airlines ARE planning on using it to the US, I'd think this would be a natural tour stop for publicity.

I'm anxious to see it at LAX...

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Thu Feb 08, 2007 3:23 am

Quoting Leelaw (Reply 16):
Clever for Airbus to take only 200 journalists/media for a ride, if there were 519 butts in the seats the impressions of the reporters regarding the flight may be quite different.

Did you add up the number of seats the media guy said were in the airplane? 307 lower deck and 136 upper deck....unless he said "370" that adds up to 443.
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RE: Airbus Launches A380 Publicity Drive

Thu Feb 08, 2007 3:25 am

Quoting Leelaw (Reply 31):
"Flying on the A380: like an A340 on top and a 747 below" by Brendan Sobie of Airline Business:

http://www.bizbuzzmedia.com/blogs/ai....aspx

"I felt like I was on an A340-500 or -600 with a noticeably better and quieter takeoff performance."

This guy is an aviation journalist? With only 200 passengers, no luggage or cargo, and enough fuel for only a 2 hour flight, of course the plane will have a "noticeably better takeoff performance".

But, hey, if I ever flew on that plane I'd want to be in the back on the 2nd deck, too. The view must be spectacular from there during take-offs and landings.
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RE: Airbus Launches A380 Publicity Drive

Thu Feb 08, 2007 3:46 am

Quoting Travelin man (Reply 29):
But will Airbus fly the A380 to the US any time soon? Considering airlines ARE planning on using it to the US, I'd think this would be a natural tour stop for publicity.

According to these these two threads, JFK on March 19 and ORD on March 28:

A 380 IN JFK March 19TH
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RE: Airbus Launches A380 Publicity Drive

Thu Feb 08, 2007 3:50 am

Quoting Astuteman (Reply 14):
9-abreast economy on the main-deck, according to the article, in a 519 seat layout..... cloudnine

Bovine luxury, indeed Smile

Something isn't right here - those seat's don't look 20+" wide, and the aisle shown actually looks quite narrow. Huh?

Perhaps it's just the way the photo was taken.
 
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Thu Feb 08, 2007 3:52 am

WSJ: "Demo Flight of Airbus's New A380 Gives a Feel for Flying En Masse"

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...Its cabin remains far quieter than almost any jetliner flying today. Even seated by a window, passengers can hear conversations rows away, a feature which can be disconcerting.

John Leahy, chief operating officer for customers at Airbus, noted that the din of white noise on most jetliners is a major factor in the fatigue people feel after stepping off a long flight. Mr. Leahy said the quiet may take some getting used to. After the long test flights, Airbus staffers noted on questionnaires that they didn't like hearing other people talking on a plane, Mr. Leahy said. The improved flying experience will make up for that, he promised. "People will get used to eavesdropping on an airplane," he said.

Salome Saremi, a Lufthansa flight attendant working on the flight, said the plane's ventilation system is a key element in increasing comfort on long-haul flights. (Lufthansa has ordered 10 A380s.) Ms. Saremi previously worked on two Airbus test flights that carried full loads of staffers for seven and 10 hours. "There's lots of air," which makes passengers feel better, she said, pointing to the numerous vents...

...Ms. Saremi, a flight attendant for nine years, said she was excited about testing out some of the plane's latest features, such as the new ovens and coffee makers in the galleys. Even some of the most minor innovations are easy to notice, such as overhead bins with mirrors inside, making it easier to check for carry-ons...

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB117086948048101122.html (Subscription)
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Thu Feb 08, 2007 4:15 am

Quoting Burkhard (Reply 7):
Airbus is in need on good press now, especially in Germany and France where there is much more concern about loosing jobs than about A380 delivery dates.

I imagine every story to come out of this will be a mix of good press and bad press. For example the WSJ article Leelaw linked to mentions:

Quote:
The Airbus A380 superjumbo won't carry paying passengers until late this year at the earliest...

Airbus last year twice announced embarrassing delays to the A380 program, postponing by two years initial deliveries of its flying giant.

The project is now more than 30% over its original $12 billion budget.

As a result of the industrial meltdown behind the delays, Airbus had three different chief executives last year.

From the outside, the A380 looks enormous, dwarfing the other planes on the tarmac. Onboard, however, the interior offers passengers little sense of the jetliner's massive capacity.

Hey, but the FA is excited by the new ovens and coffee makers.
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Thu Feb 08, 2007 4:25 am

Quoting BoomBoom (Reply 39):
Hey, but the FA is excited by the new ovens and coffee makers.

Yup. Incredible.

One wonders, though, why even with only 9-abreast seating, the interior offers passengers little sense of the jetliner's massive capacity.
 
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Thu Feb 08, 2007 4:32 am

Quoting Astuteman (Reply 14):
9-abreast economy on the main-deck, according to the article, in a 519 seat layout..... cloudnine

Bovine luxury, indeed Smile


Ah, we have the answer to my "something isn't right here" comment.

3+4+3=10, not 9.

"Downstairs there were three economy sections in a 3-4-3 configuration with a total of 307 seats. At the front of the downstairs cabin, right in front of the cockpit, were 12 80-inch-long first-class seats in a six-abreast configuration. SIA plans to offer a roomier first class suite with only four seats abreast."

http://www.bizbuzzmedia.com/blogs/airline/archive/2007/02/07/6875.aspx

I knew it.
 
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RE: Airbus Launches A380 Publicity Drive

Thu Feb 08, 2007 4:34 am

Quoting Khobar (Reply 40):
Quoting BoomBoom (Reply 39):
"Hey, but the FA is excited by the new ovens and coffee makers."

Yup. Incredible.

One wonders, though, why even with only 9-abreast seating, the interior offers passengers little sense of the jetliner's massive capacity.

I don't know, stuff that makes the FAs lives easier can't be a bad thing. In that domain, it's the little things not being quite right that drives people who work on the a/c insane. Ever had to put up with a cranky FA crew on a long-haul flight?

As for the feeling, I think you'll find that the interior gives a fine impression of the aircrafts space. It's subjective for sure, but I doubt anyone would think they're on a 777 or 747 in terms of roominess in the standard 3/3/3 config. Personally, it's the noise on long-haul which gets to me. The thought of a quiet aircraft is heaven.

Anyway, buy the ticket, take the ride when it goes into service. See for yourself, that's the best test. Otherwise, its just speculation.
 
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Thu Feb 08, 2007 4:45 am

Quoting HB88 (Reply 42):
I don't know, stuff that makes the FAs lives easier can't be a bad thing. In that domain, it's the little things not being quite right that drives people who work on the a/c insane. Ever had to put up with a cranky FA crew on a long-haul flight?

Long haul, short haul - yes I know how some things can annoy an FA, but this reation just reinforces so many stereotypes about FA's.

As for the feeling of space, or lack thereof, the answer is that the economy was, in fact, 3-4-3 for 10 abreast, not 9 abreast as had been reported. The world makes sense once more.  Wink

As for buying a ticket and flying the plane, if and when I have the opportunity, I will, sometime down the road.
 
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Thu Feb 08, 2007 5:44 am

Like I said, aside for the few people up in front, this is basically going to be flying on a "typical" plane...I think the B787 and A350 will provide a better "experience"...

"While impressive, the aircraft journalists flew in today is not quite a quantum leap over existing aircraft."

http://www.bizbuzzmedia.com/blogs/airline/archive/2007/02/07/6875.aspx
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RE: Airbus Launches A380 Publicity Drive

Thu Feb 08, 2007 5:46 am

Just some observations as some people are musing about this flight.

I was on it and it was a unique experience.

To make no journalist feel better or worse than the others Airbus had distributed the seats by a lottery. I was happy to have a seat in the business section on the upper deck just behind John Leahy. There were many TV people on board and we were walking along after take-off.

They had a joint LH/AF cabin crew on board.

I think the description by a colleague "feels like a B747 on the lower deck and a A346 on the upper deck" is not false but incomplete. If you can walk around you realise that this bird is something like a B747 and a A346 in one - in other words, it's really huge and it is very comfortable!

It is true that take-off and landing were a bit rude because there was a storm at Toulouse but it was nothing special. The engines are really powerful - the A380 accelerates much faster than a B747. Once we reached 41000ft you could hardly here the plane. It is true that you could overhear conversations some meters away.

I could write much more but I guess that you will see some reports on TV and in the papers tomorrow.

Just something about the briefing before the flight. Leahy said that he feels confident to sell 20 A380 this year.

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RE: Airbus Launches A380 Publicity Drive

Thu Feb 08, 2007 6:58 am

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 44):
Like I said, aside for the few people up in front, this is basically going to be flying on a "typical" plane...I think the B787 and A350 will provide a better "experience"...

For me who will proberbly be down the back 70% of the time it will be a much better experience on the A380 than either the A350 or 787 to be honest. I guess everyone has their own like and dislikes but for me the A380 makes me feel like a kid all over again!!!!
 
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Thu Feb 08, 2007 7:10 am

Quoting OA260 (Reply 49):
Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 44):
Like I said, aside for the few people up in front, this is basically going to be flying on a "typical" plane...I think the B787 and A350 will provide a better "experience"...

For me who will proberbly be down the back 70% of the time it will be a much better experience on the A380 than either the A350 or 787 to be honest. I guess everyone has their own like and dislikes but for me the A380 makes me feel like a kid all over again!!!!

The A380 is definitely not a "typical" plane. It's in a world of it's own, whatever you think of this world.

Just fly on one and you can see and feel the difference to any other aircraft. Armchair reasoning doesn't help. You need the experience.

A comparison to the B787 and the A350 at this stage doesn't help at all, too. These planes do not fly yet, and they will be in a different market. You can't compare an existing apple to future oranges.
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Thu Feb 08, 2007 7:21 am

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 44):
Like I said, aside for the few people up in front, this is basically going to be flying on a "typical" plane...I think the B787 and A350 will provide a better "experience"...

Well they say you should never meet your childhood heros, cause you will only be dissapointed. I just dont think the 787 or A350 will be anywhere as exciting as they are being made out to be.

From the perspective of the average passenger, well I doubt they would even notice that they are boarding a new plane other than an A330 or 767. The seats will be the same, or even smaller in the case of the 787. A few fancy lights maybe. Neither they or the Superjumbo will make long haul travel something to look forward to. Different cabin altitude but I wonder how many people will notice it.

The experience in the A380 is just its size and spaceousness, thats about it! But then everybody always remembers their first flight in a 747, and the A380 will be the same. The same cant be said for smaller aircraft.

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RE: Airbus Launches A380 Publicity Drive

Thu Feb 08, 2007 7:32 am

As I posted in the other A380 thread , normal everyday people on the street are asking me about the A380 and are genuinely interested in it. The main thing is of coure its size. Often asking how many seats it has and when I tell them they go WOW. Kids ask their parents that they want to go on it and even the parents want to go on it . So thats good news from the everyday man on the street who noramlly wouldnt care!!!

If the public give the A380 the thumbs up and more important the corporates do then the airlines will listen and order the product!!!
 
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Thu Feb 08, 2007 7:41 am

Quoting EI321 (Reply 51):
Neither they or the Superjumbo will make long haul travel something to look forward to. Different cabin altitude but I wonder how many people will notice it.

The experience in the A380 is just its size and spaceousness, the 787 and A350 would be able to offer this.

Have you been on one yet?

I'll take the word of the reporter who flew today:

Quote:
Onboard, however, the interior offers passengers little sense of the jetliner's massive capacity. That's because from either deck passengers don't see the other level, and each deck is broken into cabins, just like any wide-body jetliner.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB117086948048101122.html
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Thu Feb 08, 2007 8:01 am

I wonder why there are A340 bins on the rear main deck and 777 bins in all the other pictures.
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RE: Airbus Launches A380 Publicity Drive

Thu Feb 08, 2007 8:03 am

Quoting Slz396 (Reply 4):
"Air France has chosen ... a cabin configuration of 538 seats in three classes." (from the quoted article)

Leahy, of course, told AP that the 540-seat version that they were flying in wouldn't really be the one used by most airlines, because they would "follow the lead" of Qantas and Emirates and put in less than 500 seats. See...so it'll be *even better* than this!!! You know, if the product is good -- and this one should be fine -- why does this guy insist upon consistently overselling? I guess that's just the nature of people in sales, but to me, it's just sad. At least he did admit that some of the "out there" ideas (casinos, etc.) weren't really likely to happen. Wonder where those ideas came from in the first place? Hmmmmm... (sigh)
 
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RE: Airbus Launches A380 Publicity Drive

Thu Feb 08, 2007 8:23 am

Quoting OA260 (Reply 52):
As I posted in the other A380 thread , normal everyday people on the street are asking me about the A380 and are genuinely interested in it. The main thing is of coure its size. Often asking how many seats it has and when I tell them they go WOW. Kids ask their parents that they want to go on it and even the parents want to go on it . So thats good news from the everyday man on the street who noramlly wouldnt care!!!

If the public give the A380 the thumbs up and more important the corporates do then the airlines will listen and order the product!!!

Somehow that logic didn't work for the Concorde. The most popular and sort after plane to fly yet how many actually flew?
 
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RE: Airbus Launches A380 Publicity Drive

Thu Feb 08, 2007 8:50 am

Quoting B707Stu (Reply 60):
Quoting OA260 (Reply 52):
As I posted in the other A380 thread , normal everyday people on the street are asking me about the A380 and are genuinely interested in it. The main thing is of coure its size. Often asking how many seats it has and when I tell them they go WOW. Kids ask their parents that they want to go on it and even the parents want to go on it . So thats good news from the everyday man on the street who noramlly wouldnt care!!!

If the public give the A380 the thumbs up and more important the corporates do then the airlines will listen and order the product!!!

Somehow that logic didn't work for the Concorde. The most popular and sort after plane to fly yet how many actually flew?

More than Boeing and Tupelovs SSTs. The point Im making here is that the concorde was not produced in large numbers for many reasons, none of which had anything to do with actual market demand for SuperSonic jets when it was concieved. Boeing actually had something like 200 orders for theirs before it was canceled, Im not sure how many Concorde orders were canceled. Orders for Concorde weined when it materialised that the aircraft was not to be permitted to fly at supersonic speeds over land. This had been the whole point of the aircraft and thus it was now only useful on certain routes over the atlantic due to range limits. Boeing were lucky that they got out while they could. Contrary to popular myth the Concorde proved to be profitable in service.
 
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RE: Airbus Launches A380 Publicity Drive

Thu Feb 08, 2007 9:10 am

Quoting BoomBoom (Reply 17):
How are they going to be able to draw a comparison, unless they ride on a 748 too?

Do you really think the purpose of this flight is to get journalists to write 748 bashing stories?

Definitely not. Airbus would do well on this occassion to refrain from even mentioning Boeing and centering all that they say on a positive pitch regarding the A380. Boeing may conduct a similar flight for the press when the 747-800 rolls out. It would be very interesting to see the comments made by members of the press who made both flights.
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RE: Airbus Launches A380 Publicity Drive

Thu Feb 08, 2007 9:56 am

Quoting OA260 (Reply 38):

For me who will proberbly be down the back 70% of the time it will be a much better experience on the A380 than either the A350 or 787 to be honest. I guess everyone has their own like and dislikes but for me the A380 makes me feel like a kid all over again!!!!

Well I'm glad its going to have that effect on you....nothing wrong with that... Smile

Quoting Gbfra (Reply 39):

The A380 is definitely not a "typical" plane. It's in a world of it's own, whatever you think of this world.

Just fly on one and you can see and feel the difference to any other aircraft. Armchair reasoning doesn't help. You need the experience.

A comparison to the B787 and the A350 at this stage doesn't help at all, too. These planes do not fly yet, and they will be in a different market. You can't compare an existing apple to future oranges.

I for one have signed on SQ's website a while ago to get on the plane, and I do plan on flying on the A380 eventually........

My point was that both the B787 and A350, if they perform as expected, will provide a better cabin environment in terms of humidity, etc....and for me that's most important..."cabin space" isn't too important as long as I have good seat pitch..which from reading, isn't going to increase by 3' in cattle class on the A380... no 

People complain about the EK doing 3-4-3 on their B777's, but they also have 34' seat pitch..better to have 34' seat pitch and less width than 3-3-3 and 31' seat pitch like KL have on their 777's....

To say that these products might not compete is premature...SQ will fly their A380's on the Kangaroo Route, and if BA get a plane such as the B787-10 or A350, they might replace their B772ER (BA-15/16) with such a plane (if the flight still exists). That would be considered a direct competition....

Again with possibly AA versus VS out of say LAX and/or JFK to LHR...

Quoting EI321 (Reply 40):
The experience in the A380 is just its size and spaceousness, thats about it! But then everybody always remembers their first flight in a 747, and the A380 will be the same. The same cant be said for smaller aircraft.

See above..the cabin atmosphere is just as important, if not more important than just space....

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RE: Airbus Launches A380 Publicity Drive

Thu Feb 08, 2007 6:27 pm

Quoting B707Stu (Reply 45):
Somehow that logic didn't work for the Concorde. The most popular and sort after plane to fly yet how many actually flew?

Well a ticket on Concorde was three to four times the amount of a ticket on the A380 so there is a big difference!!
 
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RE: Airbus Launches A380 Publicity Drive

Thu Feb 08, 2007 6:55 pm

BBC have a very good look inside the A380 from yesterday


http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/c...ws=1&nbwm=1&bbram=1&nbram=1&bbwm=1 >

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