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WN Winglets Not On Company "picture"

Fri Feb 09, 2007 10:04 am

I was wondering why the winglets are not portrayed on the aircraft on all WN literature, ticket envelopes, website etc.

It is in the new paint scheme after all.

Dumb but curious nonetheless.

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RE: WN Winglets Not On Company "picture"

Fri Feb 09, 2007 10:07 am

Because it really dosn't matter
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RE: WN Winglets Not On Company "picture"

Fri Feb 09, 2007 12:16 pm

Becase we're not goingto spend money just for that change by itself.

Eventually, everything gets updated and/or re-designed, and when that happens, updated photos and artwork will be used.
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RE: WN Winglets Not On Company "picture"

Fri Feb 09, 2007 12:18 pm

This will be the downfall of Southwest.
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RE: WN Winglets Not On Company "picture"

Fri Feb 09, 2007 12:22 pm

Quoting C680 (Reply 3):
This will be the downfall of Southwest.

That plus having too many of the baggage carts and tugs stull painted in the old colors....
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RE: WN Winglets Not On Company "picture"

Fri Feb 09, 2007 12:25 pm

Who says they're 737-700's? They could be the -300's or the -500's.
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RE: WN Winglets Not On Company "picture"

Fri Feb 09, 2007 12:28 pm

Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 4):
That plus having too many of the baggage carts and tugs stull painted in the old colors....

I don't think I've ever seen any equipment in the old colors...
 
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RE: WN Winglets Not On Company "picture"

Fri Feb 09, 2007 12:30 pm

Im sure it will be added in the future. Southwest has certainly identified themselves as a big "wingletter". The 737s look so sharp.

And for the unpainted tugs, baggage carts, etc...I think it adds something. The gold colors with the blue just remind everyone of the Southwest they knew when it started, and the Southwest they know now.
 
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RE: WN Winglets Not On Company "picture"

Fri Feb 09, 2007 12:38 pm

Quoting HPRamper (Reply 6):

I don't think I've ever seen any equipment in the old colors...

Head to HOU. You will see some of it there.
 
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RE: WN Winglets Not On Company "picture"

Fri Feb 09, 2007 12:52 pm

Quoting EmSeeEye (Reply 8):
Quoting HPRamper (Reply 6):

I don't think I've ever seen any equipment in the old colors...

Head to HOU. You will see some of it there.

Head to PHX,RDU,LAS,MDW any number of WN Citys and you will still see some of the old Colors, and or see some of the old Logo's
 
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RE: WN Winglets Not On Company "picture"

Fri Feb 09, 2007 1:06 pm

Quoting EmSeeEye (Reply 8):
Head to HOU. You will see some of it there.

I might be the only one here, but I preferred the old colors to the new one... Canyon Blue just dosent sit right with me.
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RE: WN Winglets Not On Company "picture"

Fri Feb 09, 2007 1:18 pm

Quoting NWADC9 (Reply 5):
Who says they're 737-700's? They could be the -300's or the -500's.

Isn't WN planning to retrofit some of the -300's with winglets? They could go for winglets on the -500 like CO is for some, but the average stage length would have to justify it.

Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 4):
That plus having too many of the baggage carts and tugs stull painted in the old colors....

Well, if they were blue, they may get mixed up with AA's. Wouldn't want that.
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RE: WN Winglets Not On Company "picture"

Fri Feb 09, 2007 1:45 pm

Quoting AirTranTUS (Reply 11):
Well, if they were blue, they may get mixed up with AA's. Wouldn't want that.

Canyon blue is totally different color from AA blue GSE.

WN can get mixed up with the new UA Blue GSE, which has similar tone.

DH on the other hand had an Indigo Blue color for GSE.
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RE: WN Winglets Not On Company "picture"

Fri Feb 09, 2007 1:51 pm

Quoting AirTranTUS (Reply 11):
Isn't WN planning to retrofit some of the -300's with winglets?

The first one, N368SW was due out of AAR at IND on Monday the 5th...

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RE: WN Winglets Not On Company "picture"

Fri Feb 09, 2007 4:00 pm

Quoting NWADC9 (Reply 5):
Who says they're 737-700's? They could be the -300's or the -500's.

The newest logo, the one with the blue 737, is a 737-700. Compare the wings to those on the logo with the old colors jet.

Quoting HPRamper (Reply 6):
I don't think I've ever seen any equipment in the old colors...

Come to SAN or SJC. Pretty much all equipment at both stations is in old colors.

Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 13):
The first one, N368SW was due out of AAR at IND on Monday the 5th...

So I can expect to see one at SAN for the first time on...lets see...October of this year?  Wink
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RE: WN Winglets Not On Company "picture"

Fri Feb 09, 2007 4:11 pm

Because after a careful cost benefit analysis, Southwest executives concluded that the added efficiency provided by the addition of winglets to their ticket envelope fleet wouldn't be worth the required investment.
 
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RE: WN Winglets Not On Company "picture"

Fri Feb 09, 2007 5:50 pm

Quoting Silver1SWA (Reply 14):
Quoting NWADC9 (Reply 5):
Who says they're 737-700's? They could be the -300's or the -500's.

The newest logo, the one with the blue 737, is a 737-700. Compare the wings to those on the logo with the old colors jet.

Specifically those things which operate the flaps (not sure what they are called) are painted red in the logo, which means the plane portrayed is a 737-700. Now that the -300s are apparently going to be getting winglets, the red flap-mover-things are going to become the easiest way to identify a plane as a 73G rather than a 733.
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RE: WN Winglets Not On Company "picture"

Fri Feb 09, 2007 9:29 pm

Quoting AlexPorter (Reply 16):
Specifically those things which operate the flaps (not sure what they are called) are painted red in the logo, which means the plane portrayed is a 737-700

No, the entire wing on the logo is that of a 737-700. The old logo showed the extension of the engine pylon that extends to the rear of the wing. The new logo shows the correct layout (not just the color) of the flap fairings of the 737NG wing.

Wow, this discussion is a bit silly isn't it?
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RE: WN Winglets Not On Company "picture"

Sat Feb 10, 2007 7:20 am

Quoting Silver1SWA (Reply 17):
Wow, this discussion is a bit silly isn't it?

What's even sillier is I've asked myself the same question about the logo before... I figured it would have to wait another major brand update though. Fortunately the 73G's started dominating the fleet right around the same time WN revamped their image, so changing the graphic from a 733 didn't necessarily add any cost. The whole winglet craze hit just a little too late.
 
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RE: WN Winglets Not On Company "picture"

Sat Feb 10, 2007 9:05 am

The Wright amendment prohibits it until 2010. Then they can show just one plane with Winglets until 2011 when they can show all their planes with winglets.  Smile
 
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RE: WN Winglets Not On Company "picture"

Sat Feb 10, 2007 9:42 am

Quoting HPRamper (Reply 6):
Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 4):
That plus having too many of the baggage carts and tugs stull painted in the old colors....

I don't think I've ever seen any equipment in the old colors...

BOI as well.

Also,on the safety card, it is non wingletted -700. Canoes are orange, so it is not 'supposed' to be a -300. Maybe the new Ford, blue -700.
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RE: WN Winglets Not On Company "picture"

Sat Feb 10, 2007 9:18 pm

When do the first winglets go on the -300's? Guys its easy to tell the difference from the -700. tail isnt as tall on -300, engins have flatter bottoms because it sits lower. Flap tract fairings come to a point vs the -700 re sqaured off. Come on it's easy. I wonder if theyll cover up the small windows above cockpit like on -700s as well. we can only wait. But back to the main question... WHEN...lol.
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RE: WN Winglets Not On Company "picture"

Sat Feb 10, 2007 9:27 pm

Quoting AirTranTUS (Reply 11):
Isn't WN planning to retrofit some of the -300's with winglets?



Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 13):
The first one, N368SW was due out of AAR at IND on Monday the 5th...



Quoting ERAUgrad02 (Reply 21):
When do the first winglets go on the -300's?
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RE: WN Winglets Not On Company "picture"

Sat Feb 10, 2007 9:32 pm

Quoting ERAUgrad02 (Reply 21):
When do the first winglets go on the -300's

The first two 733W are being retro fitted as we speak, the first being n368. Not sure when they will come back to service
 
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RE: WN Winglets Not On Company "picture"

Sun Feb 11, 2007 3:37 am

Quoting Boeingguy1 (Reply 10):
I might be the only one here, but I preferred the old colors to the new one... Canyon Blue just dosent sit right with me


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RE: WN Winglets Not On Company "picture"

Sun Feb 11, 2007 4:42 am

Quoting ERAUgrad02 (Reply 21):
When do the first winglets go on the -300's? Guys its easy to tell the difference from the -700. tail isnt as tall on -300, engins have flatter bottoms because it sits lower. Flap tract fairings come to a point vs the -700 re sqaured off. Come on it's easy. I wonder if theyll cover up the small windows above cockpit like on -700s as well. we can only wait. But back to the main question... WHEN...lol.

Yes, it is easy. But this isnt really a discussion about the differences, we are talking about the old and new logos. The new logo has the -700s characteristics you describe.

And we have many -300s with the eyebrows plugged.
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