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First WN 737-300 With APB Blended Winglets

Sun Feb 11, 2007 9:20 am

Here's something you won't see anywhere else...

Ship 368 is the first 737-300 to receive the Aviation Partners Boeing blended winglet mod. This will be the first of 90 of the newest 737-300s in the fleet to receive the mod. Take a look:

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Definetely a nice look for the -300!

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RE: First WN 737-300 With APB Blended Winglets

Sun Feb 11, 2007 9:26 am

Excellent pics!!!!!!! This is gonna pose some spotting problems for our more novice collegues lol
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RE: First WN 737-300 With APB Blended Winglets

Sun Feb 11, 2007 9:28 am

Are you sure this is the first one? I could've sworn I saw another 733 in PHX last week with the winglets. I'll admit I could be wrong as I was kind of sleepy eyed from having to catch an early morning flight that day, and I only glimpsed it for a few seconds as we were taxiing out, but I glanced out the window just in time to see a 300 with the winglets (flap fairings were pointed, not clipped, and they were not in the distinctive orange color).
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RE: First WN 737-300 With APB Blended Winglets

Sun Feb 11, 2007 10:36 am

Quoting Dhefty (Reply 3):
http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/2003/q3/nr_030710g.html

See:

Quoting Iflyswa (Thread starter):
First WN 737-300 With APB Blended Winglets

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RE: First WN 737-300 With APB Blended Winglets

Sun Feb 11, 2007 11:00 am

That is great! I hope other airlines get on the wagon and try this out on their 300's like UA.
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RE: First WN 737-300 With APB Blended Winglets

Sun Feb 11, 2007 11:03 am

Quoting KFLLCFII (Reply 4):
See:

Oops! Now I see.

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RE: First WN 737-300 With APB Blended Winglets

Sun Feb 11, 2007 11:08 am

Winglets look great, but what were the airline thinking whan they chose that colour scheme?
 
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RE: First WN 737-300 With APB Blended Winglets

Sun Feb 11, 2007 11:11 am

Doesnt Virgin express have 733s with winglets?


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RE: First WN 737-300 With APB Blended Winglets

Sun Feb 11, 2007 11:43 am

Quoting Flyboyseven (Reply 8):
Doesnt Virgin express have 733s with winglets?

I think the original poster was only referring to WN 733s, not all 733s worldwide.
 
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RE: First WN 737-300 With APB Blended Winglets

Sun Feb 11, 2007 11:47 am

Quoting EI321 (Reply 7):
Winglets look great, but what were the airline thinking whan they chose that colour scheme?

It is much nicer than what they used to have,
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RE: First WN 737-300 With APB Blended Winglets

Sun Feb 11, 2007 12:21 pm

Quoting Drewwright (Reply 9):
I think the original poster was only referring to WN 733s, not all 733s worldwide.

Hmm...I guess. Ahhh the title. Thank you.
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RE: First WN 737-300 With APB Blended Winglets

Sun Feb 11, 2007 1:02 pm

Looks good!

Can't wait till I see one through TUS sometime.
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RE: First WN 737-300 With APB Blended Winglets

Sun Feb 11, 2007 1:35 pm

How soon until its back in service? I wanna get a shot of it if I can...
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RE: First WN 737-300 With APB Blended Winglets

Sun Feb 11, 2007 2:41 pm

Yes, as stated in the title, I am referring to the first classic winglet mod for the Southwest Airlines Co.

More photos: http://s144.photobucket.com/albums/r191/skybronco07/

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[Edited 2007-02-11 06:44:41]
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RE: First WN 737-300 With APB Blended Winglets

Sun Feb 11, 2007 3:45 pm

I do think it might be a problem for some spotters, however i think that the 733 makes a "little" bit more noise than the NG 737's.
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RE: First WN 737-300 With APB Blended Winglets

Sun Feb 11, 2007 3:52 pm

Quoting LAXspotter (Reply 15):
I do think it might be a problem for some spotters, however i think that the 733 makes a "little" bit more noise than the NG 737's.

There are so many more obvious things, the -700 will still have the red canoes under the wing, and look at the registeration as usual, N2, N4 and N7 are -700's and N3 and N6 are -300's.

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RE: First WN 737-300 With APB Blended Winglets

Sun Feb 11, 2007 4:00 pm

Is the United geting winglets too?
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RE: First WN 737-300 With APB Blended Winglets

Sun Feb 11, 2007 4:18 pm

Quoting Atrude777 (Reply 16):
There are so many more obvious things, the -700 will still have the red canoes under the wing, and look at the registeration as usual, N2, N4 and N7 are -700's and N3 and N6 are -300's.

Thanks. you are a southwest fan.
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RE: First WN 737-300 With APB Blended Winglets

Sun Feb 11, 2007 4:31 pm

Quoting LAXspotter (Reply 18):
Thanks. you are a southwest fan.

Was it that obvious?! LMAO  Silly

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RE: First WN 737-300 With APB Blended Winglets

Sun Feb 11, 2007 4:42 pm

Quoting Drerx7 (Reply 1):
This is gonna pose some spotting problems for our more novice collegues

I think your right!  Wink
WNs fleet of -300s and -700s is becoming almost completely uniformed. What with the plugged eyebrow windows and now winglets on the -300s, they look almost completely identical!

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RE: First WN 737-300 With APB Blended Winglets

Sun Feb 11, 2007 4:47 pm

Quoting LAXspotter (Reply 15):
I do think it might be a problem for some spotters, however i think that the 733 makes a "little" bit more noise than the NG 737's.

Actually, the noise difference isn't that great.

Quoting LAXspotter (Reply 18):
Thanks. you are a southwest fan.

The orange/red canoes really give it away and the database pretty easily tells you the number sequences.
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RE: First WN 737-300 With APB Blended Winglets

Sun Feb 11, 2007 5:12 pm

This may be obvious to some, but why do the yellow caps on the engines read 737-800? I thought the cowlings were a slightly different shape?
 
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RE: First WN 737-300 With APB Blended Winglets

Sun Feb 11, 2007 5:12 pm

So how long until someone makes a good FS9/FSX 733W model?  Smile
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RE: First WN 737-300 With APB Blended Winglets

Sun Feb 11, 2007 5:21 pm

Quoting Lumus (Reply 22):
This may be obvious to some, but why do the yellow caps on the engines read 737-800? I thought the cowlings were a slightly different shape?

The engine plugs look like they say "737-300" to me, but I can see where an "8" and a "3" might look indistinguishable from one another....
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RE: First WN 737-300 With APB Blended Winglets

Sun Feb 11, 2007 6:14 pm

Quoting Iflyswa (Reply 14):
More photos: http://s144.photobucket.com/albums/r191/skybronco07/

iflyswa

Thanks so much for sharing, for us is an unusual "view" of the aircraft without the "skin".

Can we know where are they doing this modifications?

Thanks
 
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RE: First WN 737-300 With APB Blended Winglets

Sun Feb 11, 2007 6:28 pm

Quoting Iflyswa (Reply 14):
iflyswa

Thanks for the pics  Smile Very cool to see a pair of winglets boxed in a crate like that Big grin
 
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RE: First WN 737-300 With APB Blended Winglets

Sun Feb 11, 2007 6:36 pm

Quoting San747 (Reply 13):
How soon until its back in service? I wanna get a shot of it if I can...

Well, if SAN is where you are lookin to catch it, don't get your hopes up any time soon!  Wink  Wink
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RE: First WN 737-300 With APB Blended Winglets

Sun Feb 11, 2007 6:42 pm

Quoting Silver1SWA (Reply 27):
Well, if SAN is where you are lookin to catch it, don't get your hopes up any time soon!

Yeah, especially because I only go down to SAN twice a month, tops. It would be pure luck to catch it on one of those occasions...
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RE: First WN 737-300 With APB Blended Winglets

Sun Feb 11, 2007 7:47 pm

What all is involved in this ACO? It looks like new panels are intalled in the outer wing, as well as the installation of the winglets.

In those photos, it appears that new upper and lower skin panels have been installed as the lower outboard access cutouts do not match up with the current standard 733 cutouts (the ones from the surge tank pressure relief valve and outboard).

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RE: First WN 737-300 With APB Blended Winglets

Sun Feb 11, 2007 11:54 pm

Quoting WestJetYQQ (Reply 20):
What with the plugged eyebrow windows and now winglets on the -300s, they look almost completely identical!

If you can't see the orange/red canoes, just look for the position of the pitot tubes on the front cockpit section. If they fall underneath the rearmost cockpit window, it's a 300:


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RE: First WN 737-300 With APB Blended Winglets

Mon Feb 12, 2007 12:20 am

Also the 300 has a more level look from the side where the 700 with the higher main gear and tail sits nose low.
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RE: First WN 737-300 With APB Blended Winglets

Mon Feb 12, 2007 12:25 am

Quoting N1120A (Reply 10):
Quoting EI321 (Reply 7):
Winglets look great, but what were the airline thinking whan they chose that colour scheme?

It is much nicer than what they used to have,

Na, I prefer the old one!
 
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RE: First WN 737-300 With APB Blended Winglets

Mon Feb 12, 2007 12:31 am

Quoting Airtraveler (Reply 25):
Can we know where are they doing this modifications?

Mods are being done at AAR's facility at IND. Another aircraft followed N368SW in, and next week, a second mod line opens up and we'll then have two in there getting worked on.
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RE: First WN 737-300 With APB Blended Winglets

Mon Feb 12, 2007 1:01 am

Quoting Cleared2Land4 (Reply 17):
Is the United geting winglets too?

**No real source**, just talk around the shop. UA will be replacing the 737 "soon". Atleast, that is the word amongst pilots here. So, no winglets for our 737 fleet, once again, just talk (and we know where that often goes). What I want to know is will we be getting "wingies" for our 757's?
 
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RE: First WN 737-300 With APB Blended Winglets

Mon Feb 12, 2007 1:06 am

Quoting CirrusDriver (Reply 34):
UA will be replacing the 737 "soon"

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RE: First WN 737-300 With APB Blended Winglets

Mon Feb 12, 2007 1:59 am

Quoting KFLLCFII (Reply 30):
If you can't see the orange/red canoes, just look for the position of the pitot tubes on the front cockpit section. If they fall underneath the rearmost cockpit window, it's a 300:

If you can't see the canoes how are you going to see the pitot tubes?!

A good way to tell the difference (if you're not looking at the aircraft up close) is by the landing lights. The 300/500 has a set on the outboard canoes under each wing. The 700 has an inboard set under the fuselage.


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RE: First WN 737-300 With APB Blended Winglets

Mon Feb 12, 2007 2:19 am

So, will all the 737s (no matter what model) in WN's fleet have winglets in the not too distant future?
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RE: First WN 737-300 With APB Blended Winglets

Mon Feb 12, 2007 2:25 am

This is great, it now looks like a 737-700!!! Big grin
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RE: First WN 737-300 With APB Blended Winglets

Mon Feb 12, 2007 2:40 am

Quoting SABE (Reply 37):
So, will all the 737s (no matter what model) in WN's fleet have winglets in the not too distant future?

No, not all of them. The retrofit program only covers 90 of the 194 -300s, and none of the -500s.
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RE: First WN 737-300 With APB Blended Winglets

Mon Feb 12, 2007 3:15 am

Quoting BWI757 (Reply 35):
Quoting CirrusDriver (Reply 34):
UA will be replacing the 737 "soon"

With the Northwest DC-9's no doubt

More importantly, when will NW instale winglets on their -9's to increase range and extend their life to over 60 years???

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RE: First WN 737-300 With APB Blended Winglets

Mon Feb 12, 2007 3:19 am

Quoting ASAFA (Reply 36):
If you can't see the canoes how are you going to see the pitot tubes?!

You mean to tell me that every single window you've ever looked out from within a terminal toward a WN aircraft at the gate allowed you to catch an unobstructed glimpse of one or more of the canoes, without either the jetway, wing(s), engine(s), beltloader, or simply a poor angle from the window preventing you from making a proper determination based solely on their color? I can think of many occasions where all I could see was the nose of the aircraft from within the terminal, and not even at a good enough angle to distinguish the fleet number on the nose gear door.

Hence, -300s and -500s have pitot tubes undernearth the rearmost cockpit window, and -700s have pitot tubes farther forward, just behind the radome cover.
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RE: First WN 737-300 With APB Blended Winglets

Mon Feb 12, 2007 4:12 am

Quoting BWI757 (Reply 35):
With the Northwest DC-9's no doubt

Or with FedExs retireing 727s!! (To those of you who wish to elaborate: I know that many of FedExs 727s are former UA frames. That is the point)  Wink
 
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RE: First WN 737-300 With APB Blended Winglets

Mon Feb 12, 2007 4:33 am

Quoting SWACLE (Reply 40):
More importantly, when will NW instale winglets on their -9's to increase range and extend their life to over 60 years???

I think that would be cool has hell! They should look into the notion. :P
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RE: First WN 737-300 With APB Blended Winglets

Mon Feb 12, 2007 4:48 am

Easiest way. The wings are different. And tail. And engines have flatter bottoms because the -300 isnt as tall. Anyone can tell the difference.
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RE: First WN 737-300 With APB Blended Winglets

Mon Feb 12, 2007 4:55 am

Is there a reason that the 700's have painted canoes and the 300's dont?
 
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RE: First WN 737-300 With APB Blended Winglets

Mon Feb 12, 2007 4:56 am

Quoting Phxplanes (Reply 45):
Is there a reason that the 700's have painted canoes and the 300's dont?

So Ramp Agents and Ops Agent and F/A and all can tell the differnce between the -300 and -700.

Thats pretty much the sole reason it is painted.

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RE: First WN 737-300 With APB Blended Winglets

Mon Feb 12, 2007 5:18 am

Quoting SWACLE (Reply 40):
More importantly, when will NW instale winglets on their -9's to increase range and extend their life to over 60 years???

That would be awesome! I'd love for NW to keep those DC-9's a little longer.


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RE: First WN 737-300 With APB Blended Winglets

Mon Feb 12, 2007 7:29 am

How can you tell the difference between the 300 and 500? Out of curiosity what is the difference in seating capacity?
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RE: First WN 737-300 With APB Blended Winglets

Mon Feb 12, 2007 7:32 am

Quoting KFLLCFII (Reply 30):
If you can't see the orange/red canoes, just look for the position of the pitot tubes on the front cockpit section.

Thanks KFLLCFII, you've done a great public service. Now I'm a 733 / 73G spotter!
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