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Kegworth Air Crash - Original Newsflash Video

Mon Feb 12, 2007 7:13 am

Browsing through YouTube I came across this interesting video - the original BBC newsflash and early reports from the Kegworth air disaster in 1989.

Interesting to see some of the early confusion around the accident.

 
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RE: Kegworth Air Crash - Original Newsflash Video

Mon Feb 12, 2007 7:52 am

Yikes, how can you mistake a DC-9 for a 737? Anywho, thanks for this interesting video Noel!
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RE: Kegworth Air Crash - Original Newsflash Video

Mon Feb 12, 2007 8:11 am

Very interesting video. I remember this accident happening although I was just a kid at the time.
Also, how can you mistake a 737 for a DC9. The first witness must be able to tell living so close to the airport, as he even mentioned reverse thrust etc  Wink

BTW, did BD even have any DC9's?


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RE: Kegworth Air Crash - Original Newsflash Video

Mon Feb 12, 2007 8:30 am

Quoting Sketty222 (Reply 2):
Also, how can you mistake a 737 for a DC9.



Quoting Sketty222 (Reply 2):
BTW, did BD even have any DC9's?

That's funny. You're asking how an amateur eyewitness can't tell the difference between a 737 and a DC9, in the dark, in the trauma of watching a actually plane crash. OK, I think it's understandable and you don't, but the kicker is that you're asking if BD "even had" any DC9s. Well, how can you mistake the plane pictured in the opening thread for ANYTHING other than...dun dun DUN!

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RE: Kegworth Air Crash - Original Newsflash Video

Mon Feb 12, 2007 8:33 am

BD had loads of DC9s which had just (a month or so before) started being replaced with 737s. They were by far bigger in numbers than the 737s at that time. I'm guessing that as a known DC9 operator the reporters just assumed it was a DC9. After all, a brand new aircraft wouldn't crash, would it  Wink


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I was 8 years old when this happened, but living in Leicester remember that night very clearly.

I have a friend who is an ex nurse at the Queens Medical Centre in Nottingham who was on duty that night. She told me she saw a lot of terrible things that night.
 
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Mon Feb 12, 2007 8:34 am

They also had some -30s:

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RE: Kegworth Air Crash - Original Newsflash Video

Tue Feb 13, 2007 7:45 pm

I think it's very understandable to mistake a DC9 for a 737 in the dark! Look at 9/11, people were saying the 767s were 737s in some reports, with some witnesses even claiming it was a 747 which hit the North Tower.

The picture always becomes clear eventually, but I do understand how such a mistake, particularly at night, could be made.

I remember seeing a news report animation of this crash, but I have no recollection of seeing the original news reports of Lockerbie, just 3 weeks before.... I was only 3 years old...
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RE: Kegworth Air Crash - Original Newsflash Video

Tue Feb 13, 2007 11:04 pm

Didn't some of the 737s have to be grounded after this accident? Any info greatly appreciated
 
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RE: Kegworth Air Crash - Original Newsflash Video

Wed Feb 14, 2007 12:03 am

Quoting Noelg (Reply 4):
BD had loads of DC9s which had just (a month or so before) started being replaced with 737s.

Well, I was going to post a smart-aleck comment but I'll leave that honor to someone else  Smile

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RE: Kegworth Air Crash - Original Newsflash Video

Wed Feb 14, 2007 12:15 am

I dont know how they could say it was a DC9 , when the tailfin is clearly different and it even says 737-400 on the back and there are no engines on the back also.

I remember this crash as I was at LHR that night and saw the BFS passengers checking in for that flight. Then later at home I remember the newsflash but not the one posted. It seems like another lifetime away since then.
 
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RE: Kegworth Air Crash - Original Newsflash Video

Wed Feb 14, 2007 12:22 am

Quoting 1stfl94 (Reply 7):
Didn't some of the 737s have to be grounded after this accident? Any info greatly appreciated

Yes, the entire -400 series was grounded while the engines were checked for the fault that caused this crash.
 
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RE: Kegworth Air Crash - Original Newsflash Video

Wed Feb 14, 2007 5:48 am

Quoting OA260 (Reply 9):
I dont know how they could say it was a DC9 , when the tailfin is clearly different and it even says 737-400 on the back and there are no engines on the back also.

Remember, it WAS dark....
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RE: Kegworth Air Crash - Original Newsflash Video

Wed Feb 14, 2007 5:59 am

Quoting OA260 (Reply 9):
I dont know how they could say it was a DC9 , when the tailfin is clearly different and it even says 737-400 on the back and there are no engines on the back also.

The section after the news item is seperate. Then it was know that it was a 737.
 
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RE: Kegworth Air Crash - Original Newsflash Video

Wed Feb 14, 2007 6:08 am

Forget the DC-9 reference, the biggest mistake was Kirsty Walk's hair.
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RE: Kegworth Air Crash - Original Newsflash Video

Wed Feb 14, 2007 6:30 am

I make no apologies for what Im about to say!

For F#*K sake does no one writing a message in this forum have any compassion or thoughts for the victims and families effected by this disaster? Over 35 people were killed in the accident and many people were severely injured and are still living with those injuries today - unable to walk and in wheel chairs.

All you people seem to go on about is how the BBC were initially reporting it was a DC-9 and how bad it is local eye witness (who was probably not an aircraft enthusiast), reports seeing a different type of aircraft to what did actually crash. Eighteen years later the press still report some inaccuracies when reporting these kind of disasters.

I thought the news article was facinating and brings back the thoughts and emotions people must have gone through when hearing the news flash!
 
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RE: Kegworth Air Crash - Original Newsflash Video

Wed Feb 14, 2007 6:36 am

Quoting Gilesdavies (Reply 14):
For F#*K sake does no one writing a message in this forum have any compassion or thoughts for the victims and families effected by this disaster? Over 35 people were killed in the accident and many people were severely injured and are still living with those injuries today - unable to walk and in wheel chairs.

More people died in Europe today on the roads. Everyone here feels compassion towards those who were killed an injured, but a few platitudes on a website aren't going to help anyone.
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RE: Kegworth Air Crash - Original Newsflash Video

Wed Feb 14, 2007 6:43 am

Quoting Gilesdavies (Reply 14):
For F#*K sake does no one writing a message in this forum have any compassion or thoughts for the victims and families effected by this disaster? Over 35 people were killed in the accident and many people were severely injured and are still living with those injuries today - unable to walk and in wheel chairs.

All you people seem to go on about is how the BBC were initially reporting it was a DC-9 and how bad it is local eye witness (who was probably not an aircraft enthusiast), reports seeing a different type of aircraft to what did actually crash. Eighteen years later the press still report some inaccuracies when reporting these kind of disasters.

Don't accuse anyone of having no compassion, I'm sure that everyone feels for the families and victims of the crash, however, the thread just went a bit off-topic. It happens.

People don't need to express their compassion for it to be felt.
 
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RE: Kegworth Air Crash - Original Newsflash Video

Wed Feb 14, 2007 6:58 am

Quoting HUYguy (Reply 16):
Don't accuse anyone of having no compassion,



Quoting HUYguy (Reply 16):
People don't need to express their compassion for it to be felt.

HUYguy is right. The discussion may have gone off topic but all enthusiasts have compassion when it comes to an aviation crash. Im sure everyones thoughts ae with the families and victims of this crash

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RE: Kegworth Air Crash - Original Newsflash Video

Wed Feb 14, 2007 7:38 am

Quoting HUYguy (Reply 16):
Don't accuse anyone of having no compassion, I'm sure that everyone feels for the families and victims of the crash, however, the thread just went a bit off-topic. It happens.

People don't need to express their compassion for it to be felt.

Exactly !!! And I know someone who was personally affected by this crash it doesnt mean you cant analise what happened and why certain information was reported at the time. Everyone feels sympathy with the victims and the ones who survived , it goes without saying!!! Just for the record I dont think anyone went off topic here !!! We were after all discussing the event and certain aspects of it which were all related.
 
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RE: Kegworth Air Crash - Original Newsflash Video

Mon Feb 19, 2007 8:24 am

I remember seeing the news reports of this crash at the time - I was only 9 years old but was already an avid aircraft enthusiast. This was the first time I found out that the B737-400 series existed actually. The aircraft was G-OBME and last time I checked there was only one photograph of this a/c on the a.net database. It would be interesting to see more photos of this aircraft, but I guess there will be very few since it was brand new at the time of the crash.

I later worked for British Midland between 1999 and 2005 and there were (and still are) many staff who were with BD at the time of the accident and had their own stories to tell of how they were involved with the aftermath. Interesting but moving stuff.
 
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RE: Kegworth Air Crash - Original Newsflash Video

Wed Feb 21, 2007 7:02 am

Quoting UK_Dispatcher (Reply 19):
last time I checked there was only one photograph of this a/c on the a.net database. It would be interesting to see more photos of this aircraft, but I guess there will be very few since it was brand new at the time of the crash.

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