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Hawaii GoExpress! Fleet Taking Shape

Mon Feb 12, 2007 11:35 am

Mokulele's goExpress! fleet taking shape
The two airlines plan to finalize a code-sharing agreement by tomorrow


Kona-based Mokulele Airlines and Mesa Air Group Inc. plan to finalize a code-share agreement tomorrow that will set the stage for goExpress! to begin interisland flights in April.

The new service will extend Mesa's reach into the islands by allowing go! passengers and others to travel between neighbor islands and, eventually, to some of the state's smaller airports.

Mokulele Chief Executive William Boyer said yesterday the first of the carrier's newly acquired Cessna Grand Caravan 208-B aircraft, now painted with the goExpress! logo and colors, flew into Hawaii Sunday.

Boyer said goExpress! will debut with $19 one-way fares for its 12 daily flights. Initial service will encompass round trips between Kona and Kahului, Kahului and Hana, Hana and Honolulu, and Honolulu and Kapalua.

"Teaming up ... gives us more credibility and gives us a lot of feeds to a lot of the islands we haven't been to before except on charters," Boyer said.

Jonathan Ornstein, chairman and chief executive of Mesa, noted that the deal is a role reversal of sorts for his company.

Mesa and Mokulele, founded in 1998, signed a memorandum of understanding in September to launch the goExpress! brand. Under the deal, Boyer is replacing the five Piper Chieftains in Mokulele's fleet with turbine-engine Grand Caravans.


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RE: Hawaii GoExpress! Fleet Taking Shape

Mon Feb 12, 2007 12:16 pm

Very interesting I am very curious as to where this goes.
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RE: Hawaii GoExpress! Fleet Taking Shape

Tue Feb 13, 2007 3:39 am

Another shot in the great Hawaii air battle!  box 
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RE: Hawaii GoExpress! Fleet Taking Shape

Tue Feb 13, 2007 7:55 am

I so don't understand this......why in the world would anyone do this?
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RE: Hawaii GoExpress! Fleet Taking Shape

Tue Feb 13, 2007 8:22 am

Hmmm, an express carrier for a carrier whose aircraft are generally regarded as an express aircraft itself. Interesting. For comparison, if this was the situation at ,say, DL, it would be Delta Connection Express.

Anyway, I hope this brings in more pax for go! I wouldn't mind traveling on a Caravan; in fact, I would book it purposely.
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RE: Hawaii GoExpress! Fleet Taking Shape

Tue Feb 13, 2007 8:24 am

Now...all Go! has to do is fly between the Island and the mainland!
 
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RE: Hawaii GoExpress! Fleet Taking Shape

Tue Feb 13, 2007 2:09 pm

What cities will these fly? Are there small airports where jets cant get in and out of in hawaii?
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RE: Hawaii GoExpress! Fleet Taking Shape

Tue Feb 13, 2007 4:20 pm

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RE: Hawaii GoExpress! Fleet Taking Shape

Tue Feb 13, 2007 4:34 pm

One more player to battle Pacific Wings & Island Air for the smaller Hawaiian airports ...
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RE: Hawaii GoExpress! Fleet Taking Shape

Tue Feb 13, 2007 4:36 pm

i dont know anybody who in their right minds would get on such a plane in the first place, i just dont feel comfortable with bein in a plane with no engines.......doesnt GO express have CR7s or something?
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RE: Hawaii GoExpress! Fleet Taking Shape

Tue Feb 13, 2007 4:45 pm

Quoting LASOctoberB6 (Reply 9):
i dont know anybody who in their right minds would get on such a plane in the first place, i just dont feel comfortable with bein in a plane with no engines.......doesnt GO express have CR7s or something?

 sarcastic 

Quoting LASOctoberB6 (Reply 9):
no engines

What do you call that thing in the front - with the big three bladed thing attached to it? Engine perhaps?

Many, many places in Alaska have air service with "such a plane" and they're perfectly safe aircraft.

They'll be just as safe in Hawaii.

Or Kansas

Or Winnepeg

Or Panama . . . . . .
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RE: Hawaii GoExpress! Fleet Taking Shape

Wed Feb 14, 2007 3:27 am

Quoting Laxintl (Thread starter):
Boyer said goExpress! will debut with $19 one-way fares for its 12 daily flights. Initial service will encompass round trips between Kona and Kahului, Kahului and Hana, Hana and Honolulu, and Honolulu and Kapalua.

There's our first clue in the Press Release...Kapalua and Hana make sense to me. Maybe Princeville will follow?

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 7):
http://www.airnav.com/airport/PHMK

I can't imagine how the CRJ would be unable to operate at Kaunakakai...It's a Dash 8 station for Hawaiian...

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 7):
http://www.airnav.com/airport/PHNY

Ditto for Lanai...
 
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RE: Hawaii GoExpress! Fleet Taking Shape

Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:31 am

Quoting Rookinla (Reply 11):
I can't imagine how the CRJ would be unable to operate at Kaunakakai...It's a Dash 8 station for Hawaiian...

MKK hasn't been a HA station for a couple of years. Plus, jets into MKK are performance limited due to a couple of reasons. One is the short runways and the other being the mountains at the end of the runways. Any time there were Kona winds, no jets flew into MKK. Any rain, no jets as well.
 
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RE: Hawaii GoExpress! Fleet Taking Shape

Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:37 am

Quoting Laxintl (Thread starter):
"Teaming up ... gives us more credibility and gives us a lot of feeds to a lot of the islands we haven't been to before except on charters," Boyer said.

How does teaming up with MESA of all airlines give you more credibility?
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RE: Hawaii GoExpress! Fleet Taking Shape

Wed Feb 14, 2007 11:13 am

Quoting LASOctoberB6 (Reply 9):
i dont know anybody who in their right minds would get on such a plane in the first place

 Big grin Big grin Big grin

Quoting LASOctoberB6 (Reply 9):
i just dont feel comfortable with bein in a plane with no engines

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Quoting LASOctoberB6 (Reply 9):
doesnt GO express have CR7s or something?

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RE: Hawaii GoExpress! Fleet Taking Shape

Wed Feb 14, 2007 11:01 pm

Quoting Rookinla (Reply 11):
Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 7):
http://www.airnav.com/airport/PHMK

I can't imagine how the CRJ would be unable to operate at Kaunakakai...It's a Dash 8 station for Hawaiian...

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 7):
http://www.airnav.com/airport/PHNY

Ditto for Lanai...

I misread: I thought he said airports where jets CAN'T get in to . . . .

Thanks for that . . .
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RE: Hawaii GoExpress! Fleet Taking Shape

Thu Feb 15, 2007 5:21 am

Interesting now this makes CRJ's look like "mainline". What a pathetic company.
 
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RE: Hawaii GoExpress! Fleet Taking Shape

Thu Feb 15, 2007 6:28 am

go! can't really be getting that much feed from any of these flights, can they?

Needless to say, the success of this new express carrier really won't do much to help go! survive. They need to get their CR7 operations in order quickly.
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RE: Hawaii GoExpress! Fleet Taking Shape

Thu Feb 15, 2007 6:38 am

Does GO! still have piss poor loads? If so, why bring larger aircraft into the market?
 
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RE: Hawaii GoExpress! Fleet Taking Shape

Thu Feb 15, 2007 7:16 am

Quoting KcrwFlyer (Reply 18):
Does GO! still have piss poor loads? If so, why bring larger aircraft into the market?

According to the last Mesa conference call, loads and earnings are withing expectations. The airline plans to add capacity via additional aircraft by the summer, along with launching their first intra-island route bypassing HNL by the summer aswell.

Cant be all that bad.
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RE: Hawaii GoExpress! Fleet Taking Shape

Thu Feb 15, 2007 7:33 am

I wonder if the it's the same lone Cessna Caravan that YV used in 1989-90 when the aircraft was used exclusively between PHX and PRC.
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RE: Hawaii GoExpress! Fleet Taking Shape

Thu Feb 15, 2007 10:05 am

Quoting Eagle11 (Reply 17):
. They need to get their CR7 operations in order quickly.

Am I missing something?
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RE: Hawaii GoExpress! Fleet Taking Shape

Thu Feb 15, 2007 12:18 pm

Quoting Jmc1975 (Reply 20):
I wonder if the it's the same lone Cessna Caravan that YV used in 1989-90 when the aircraft was used exclusively between PHX and PRC.

According to the article, its one of four "new" Caravan's to be delivered over the next few months.
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RE: Hawaii GoExpress! Fleet Taking Shape

Thu Feb 15, 2007 12:35 pm

So, I am confused. Does this have to do with this go!


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Is Hawaii GoExpress a competitor carrier or will is it going to be like the regional carrier for go!
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RE: Hawaii GoExpress! Fleet Taking Shape

Thu Feb 15, 2007 12:47 pm

Quoting JetBlueGuy2006 (Reply 23):
Is Hawaii GoExpress a competitor carrier or will is it going to be like the regional carrier for go!

go!Express will be a regional carrier for go.

Jets are possible into MKK and LNY. Hawaiian has served both with the DC-9-51 and 717, and Aloha has served LNY with the 737.

Plans for larger jets for Go (90 seats, so not CR7) have been delayed: http://starbulletin.com/2007/01/26/business/story02.html