L1011
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Window Seat Or Wall Seat

Sat Jul 22, 2000 3:35 am

I've been very excited about my upcoming trip to Alaska, having booked a window seat on every flight. But I just noticed in a picture of a 757, I may have a seat where there is no window, but a wall. I can't tell from Northwest's seat map of the 757R, which seats don't have a window, but mine looks like it might me one of those dreaded seats. I'll be in 21F. Does anyone know if this is one of those seats without a window? I sure hope it isn't. DTW-ANC is a 6 hour and 48 minute flight, and no movie is shown. I want to see out.

Bob Bradley
Richmond, VA
Fly Eastern's Golden Falcon DC-7B
 
zrb2
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RE: Window Seat Or Wall Seat

Sat Jul 22, 2000 5:12 am

Don't know about your aircraft but I got stuck in a similar situation last year. I requested a window 2 weeks in advance on a USAirways F-100, they said "sure thing" and when I boarded I was smack next to a gray wall with NO window. It was an "A" seat so I never had a clue. No way to even see out the window of the person in front of me either. I was very pissed off sitting next to a blank wall at the back of a packed plane next to the noisy rear engine. I wrote the airline a nasty letter and they did write me back and apologize.

Call the airline in advance and make it a point to find out if that's a real window seat. If not, I think you're much better off in an aisle seat.
 
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RE: Window Seat Or Wall Seat

Sat Jul 22, 2000 5:38 am

I've been there. USAirways F-100 last row just beside the engine. You have no window but extra legroom thats a plus. I've been on Delta's MD-88 same story, I had a seat next to the engine. It was very loud fly but I guess I'm alive.

I dont understand why you wrote nasty letter to the airline. People who make reservations doesnt know anything about airplanes.They are just working in the office and just type words and numbers all day long. If you requested window seat they had A-window B-isle C- isle D- isle E-isle F-window. They were trying do the best they could for you and you dont appriciate it. They had no idea "like you didnt" have one that this seat is wall seat. When you saw your seat you should talk to FAs I bet any money they would find you a window seat.

What you were expecting from them after you send that complain letter??
I wrote letter to them few months (around 8) ago about my trip (USAirways Shuttle DCA-LGA-DCA) that should take 45minutes but it took 9hrs. We had to divert to EWR cause of weather and LaGuardia congestions.
I just told them that I was expecting better then what they did. I was nice and kind in that letter. I fax it and exactly 4 days later I got from them appology letter + travel voucher for $400.
So next week I went for free to Boston get some seafood in USAirways terminal and following weekend I went back to New York just to try out those new A320.

If you want something from them you have to be nice, even they pissed you off.

I wrote letter 4 years ago to American Airlines after they destroyed my laguage. it was nasty letter, I didnt even got appology letter from them.
Screw AA and AE

Regards,
Rafal
BWIADCA - Nikon D100
 
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RE: Window Seat Or Wall Seat

Sat Jul 22, 2000 5:48 am

I just returned from a flight to Denver and back on a 757. I know that one of the flights I was in 21A. It was a window seat. Now, maybe you have a different model or configuration. But we had row 21 and it was right around the wing.
 
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RE: Window Seat Or Wall Seat

Sat Jul 22, 2000 5:52 am

Hi Bob. Sorry i cannot help you with NW but i once ended up on a blind seat on LHR-YUL on BA and i understand your concern. On a recent flight on AF, i notice that the seat i had booked would be like that. I called AF and they changed it without any problem. Some airlines' seat maps show those "non-viewing window seats", try and compare with those if you can.
You coud also ask on the NW board of Flyertalk.
Good luck
YMQ
 
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RE: Window Seat Or Wall Seat

Sat Jul 22, 2000 6:11 am

This has happened to me FOUR different times. Once on a USAir F-100, once on a NWA DC-9, Once on an NWA 727, and once on an NWA 757. I think i got that seat that you were talking about, good thing it was only from DTW-TPA. Have Fun!! (i know i did)  
 
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RE: Lindy- Window Seat Or Wall Seat

Sat Jul 22, 2000 8:56 am

Don't worry...I was critical in the letter but I wasn't mean. I made my point in a clear, intelligent manner. I was also not happy that the seats in that row don't recline. You have to understand the situation, they said the only window seats left were in the back of the plane, otherwise they had some aisle seats. Had I been informed that it was a non-viewing window, I would have happily accepted an aisle. Now at least I know to ask. Also, since the flight was jam packed, no change of seats would have been possible. SO remember, on the F-100 Last row, no window, no recline, noisy as hell, no access to the bathroom since you have to ask two people to get up to be able to go and you get to smell the bathroom since you're right next to them...great seat!
USAirways did send me a $75 voucher. I did appreciate that.
 
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RE: Window Seat Or Wall Seat

Sat Jul 22, 2000 9:19 am

L1011,

I was just on the phone with Northwest Airlines since I too was assigned the very same seat (21F) for a 757 flight from DTW to PHL. I asked if this was an obstructed view seat to which the service agent replied that it was not out of the question. She wasn't sure since it was supposed to be a 757N (rare) configuration but on the side of caution I was given a new seat assignment that has no possibility of being a "wall seat". Very easy to do over the phone, and with no penalty. Have your confirmation number ready. 1-800-225-2525 (Try finding that easily on their website!!! SHEESH!) Very easy to do... just call them up and end your worries!  

 
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RE: Window Seat Or Wall Seat

Sat Jul 22, 2000 10:05 am

If you dont want a wall then ask for a seat at the back of the plane or just behind the wing.It happened to me once on MAs from LHR-KUL.Very annoying
 
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RE: Bernsa

Sat Jul 22, 2000 10:11 am

I took your advice and called Northwest. I was told that there were no other seats available on my flight. I explained to the reservations agent about some seats on the 757 not having windows. I asked her if mine was an obstructed view seat. She put me on hold so she could go find out. When she came back, she laughed and said that row really does have a window. I guess I'll find out next Saturday if she was right or not.

Bob Bradley
Richmond, VA
Fly Eastern's Golden Falcon DC-7B
 
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RE: Window Seat Or Wall Seat

Sat Jul 22, 2000 2:55 pm

I flew on Ansett Australia B767-200 VH-RML and when I received my boarding past I specially requested a window seat and was told I had been given one. I boarded the plane only to find out that row 8 has no windows and this was where I was sitting. I know how you all feel!
 
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RE: Window Seat Or Wall Seat

Sat Jul 22, 2000 4:54 pm

On NW's 757s, 21F has a real window!  

I was in that seat for MSP-DTW last month.
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