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The DC-9/MD-80/90/717 Fleets Thread

Thu Feb 15, 2007 6:23 am

Why not starting a thread about an aircraft which becomes more and more a rare sight (at least here in Switzerland)....
Please feel free to post news about the worldwide fleet of those planes...
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RE: The DC-9/MD-80/90/717 Fleets Thread

Thu Feb 15, 2007 6:33 am

Quoting 717fan (Thread starter):
Why not starting a thread about an aircraft which becomes more and more a rare sight

LOL....please come and visit DTW!


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RE: The DC-9/MD-80/90/717 Fleets Thread

Thu Feb 15, 2007 6:50 am

To see tons of MD-80s, go to DFW. To see some MD-90s, go to SLC.
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RE: The DC-9/MD-80/90/717 Fleets Thread

Thu Feb 15, 2007 7:13 am

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 2):
To see some MD-90s, go to SLC.

Or more close to 717fan, Hello (British Jet, Iceland Express) Blue1, Nordic Leisure.
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RE: The DC-9/MD-80/90/717 Fleets Thread

Thu Feb 15, 2007 7:53 am

Go to ATL or MKE for some 717s!
 
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RE: The DC-9/MD-80/90/717 Fleets Thread

Thu Feb 15, 2007 7:56 am

Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 1):
LOL....please come and visit DTW!

Jeez...I dont even think DOUGLAS had that many DC-9's on the assembly line at one time...
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RE: The DC-9/MD-80/90/717 Fleets Thread

Thu Feb 15, 2007 7:59 am

Quoting COERJ145 (Reply 4):
Go to ATL or MKE for some 717s!

Add HNL to that list!
 
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RE: The DC-9/MD-80/90/717 Fleets Thread

Thu Feb 15, 2007 8:18 am

Ah, the 717. A great improvement on a grand old lady of the skies.
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RE: The DC-9/MD-80/90/717 Fleets Thread

Thu Feb 15, 2007 8:26 am

Quoting D950 (Reply 3):
Or more close to 717fan

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RE: The DC-9/MD-80/90/717 Fleets Thread

Thu Feb 15, 2007 8:55 am

G4 at LAS. OK, we're not large yet, but growing. We've maxed out for now on places to park our stuff every night.
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RE: The DC-9/MD-80/90/717 Fleets Thread

Thu Feb 15, 2007 8:55 am

Go to Scandinavia, especially CPH.

SAS has 50 MD-80s.

SAS subsidiaries Spanair and Blue1 have almost another 50 MD-80, MD-90 and B717.

None of them are expected to disappear in the foreseeable future.

Had the EU not banned the DC-9 in EU air space a few years ago, then a few dozen of them would probably have carried on today like they do at NW.

Then there is Swedish "Nordic Leisure" with MD-80.

Add to that all the visitors like Alitalia, Iberia and Iceland Express with MD-80/-90.

I think that the DC-9 descendants is the most common plane type seen at CPH. It has been like that for 35 years and it will continue like that for many years to come.

Quoting 717fan (Thread starter):
Why not starting a thread about an aircraft which becomes more and more a rare sight (at least here in Switzerland)....

Last time I was in ZRH I went both ways on a MD-80. It is planned to happen again next August.
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RE: The DC-9/MD-80/90/717 Fleets Thread

Thu Feb 15, 2007 9:13 am

Quoting Prebennorholm (Reply 10):
Last time I was in ZRH I went both ways on a MD-80. It is planned to happen again next August.

Yes, SK use it on their CPH flights, but thats it, other than that we only see Hello's and Blue1's MD90s and an IB MD87 occasionally as IB's Airbuses become a more and more common sight here, and then there's Spanair from BCN.

So he is not so far off by saying that those types are not highly common anymore here.
 
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RE: The DC-9/MD-80/90/717 Fleets Thread

Thu Feb 15, 2007 9:31 am

Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 11):
So he is not so far off by saying that those types are not highly common anymore here.

Yeah, I can imagine that. BTW, where have all the Swissair MD-80s gone? They couldn't have been more than 15-20 years old. For a Douglas design that is like a teenager with decades of good service life ahead.
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RE: The DC-9/MD-80/90/717 Fleets Thread

Thu Feb 15, 2007 4:08 pm

I think he wanted the hear news about fleet movements etc., not that there are stikll plenty of these birds around here and there.

Some news: Germanwings, the largest German low-cost airline, will use two MD-80's leased from Nordic Leisure, during the summer schedule from its CGN base. They are currently already loaded in AMADEUS on some weekend flights to SXF, so if you need an inexpensive way (tickets start at 19 Euro inkl. taxes and fees) to score a rare airline, this is your chance. Also, the oldest MD-80 currently in service, l/n 944, will also be used by Germanwings.
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RE: The DC-9/MD-80/90/717 Fleets Thread

Thu Feb 15, 2007 4:33 pm

Hi!

Here in LIS it's becoming a rare bird, I can only see IB flying early in the morning their MD88, and that sometimes is replaced by an A320. AZ no longer fly with them to LIS and airlines like SAS don't fly to LIS anymore. Besides that some rare MD80 operators that once a while come...but not regulary. In the late 70's the DC-9 and after that the MD80 was very common at LIS, IB flew with the DC-9-30, KL also with the DC-9-30 and ocasionally with the DC-9-14, SAS with the DC-9-40, Swissair with the DC-9-50 and then the DC-9-81, Alitalia also with the DC-9-30 and after with the MD82...those were great DC-9 days!!!
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RE: The DC-9/MD-80/90/717 Fleets Thread

Thu Feb 15, 2007 5:32 pm

I hear them all the time flying over my apartment... only thing louder is the life-flight helicopter that buzzes my apartment maybe 50ft above me at times. So PDX is a decent place to see them
 
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RE: The DC-9/MD-80/90/717 Fleets Thread

Thu Feb 15, 2007 11:47 pm

It's always been one of my favorite family of aircraft also, the 717 turned out to be a very nice successor.
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RE: The DC-9/MD-80/90/717 Fleets Thread

Thu Feb 15, 2007 11:54 pm

Quoting WesternA318 (Reply 5):
Jeez...I dont even think DOUGLAS had that many DC-9's on the assembly line at one time...

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RE: The DC-9/MD-80/90/717 Fleets Thread

Fri Feb 16, 2007 1:41 am

Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 1):
LOL....please come and visit DTW!

Or MEM and MSP.

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 2):
To see tons of MD-80s, go to DFW

There are a lot around STL and ORD too.
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RE: The DC-9/MD-80/90/717 Fleets Thread

Fri Feb 16, 2007 9:31 am

Quoting WesternA318 (Reply 5):
Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 1):
LOL....please come and visit DTW!

Jeez...I dont even think DOUGLAS had that many DC-9's on the assembly line at one time...

Park them all in the desert and sell only to the scrappers!!  duck 
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RE: The DC-9/MD-80/90/717 Fleets Thread

Fri Feb 16, 2007 9:49 am

PDX, OAK, SFO, SEA, SJC, SAN, LAX......Lots of airports get them daily on the west coast from Alaska, Delta, and American.
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RE: The DC-9/MD-80/90/717 Fleets Thread

Fri Feb 16, 2007 12:41 pm

I flew on my first 717 last week - it was Airtran MSP-MDW. I just found out it was the last 717 ever built...I thought that was kinda cool  Smile
 
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RE: The DC-9/MD-80/90/717 Fleets Thread

Fri Feb 16, 2007 1:56 pm

Good idea for a thread. Definitely a great fleet family in my opinion. It's a shame they are not in production anymore. Europeans are lucky, you guys have a lot of opportunities to fly MD-90's. Here in the US we only have DL through SLC. The NW DC-9's offer a nice glimpse of the past and are great for nostalgia here in the states though. I will be taking one from MEM-ORD in June.

As stated earlier ATL is the 717 hub of the world. With AA's large use of MD-83 west coast routes and medium range MD-82 routes, I'd say ORD is the Mad Dog capital of the world. It is not uncommon to see 4 out of 5 gates in the AA terminal operated by MD-80's at the very least. Furthermore, there are no 738 AA routes into ORD and 752's fly routes the 762 would fly. This leaves the Mad Dogs with the bulk of the domestic network.

Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 1):
LOL....please come and visit DTW!

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Quoting DAYflyer (Reply 7):
Ah, the 717. A great improvement on a grand old lady of the skies.

Indeed. It's a shame it didn't live up to it's full potential.

Quoting MattMSP767 (Reply 21):
I flew on my first 717 last week - it was Airtran MSP-MDW. I just found out it was the last 717 ever built...I thought that was kinda cool

Not only the last 717 built but the last Douglas designed airliner ever built as well. Pretty cool. I haven't flown on a 717 yet but I will book a trip on FL one of these days just to get on one.
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RE: The DC-9/MD-80/90/717 Fleets Thread

Fri Feb 16, 2007 4:02 pm

Quoting 717fan (Thread starter):
Please feel free to post news about the worldwide fleet of those planes...

Seems like hardly anyone cared to read the real intention of your thread.
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RE: The DC-9/MD-80/90/717 Fleets Thread

Sat Feb 17, 2007 12:48 am

HI!

I don´t know the numbers of AM s fleet of MD 83, 88, 87 but here in MEX we see them all day.... Along with Aerocalifornias DC-9s...

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RE: The DC-9/MD-80/90/717 Fleets Thread

Sat Feb 17, 2007 12:54 am

I fly on the 717 all the time as well as on the DC-9. I commute to work out east frequently on Midwest and on Northwest. Both are terrific rides. There are very few better seats in aviation than the first row of a DC-9, smooth ride and no engine noise.

Of course, I like the 717 better because it is a 'friendlier' airplane in terms of noise and pollution. I am very sorry it was not commercially more successful because it is a terrific plane, unfortunately these days caught in the middle of being a so-called "regional" plane and being a "mainline" airplane.

Just flew from DCA-MKE about 3 days ago on Midwest in row #1. Best seat in one of the nicest airplanes on the best carrier in the US. Hard to beat that commute!
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RE: The DC-9/MD-80/90/717 Fleets Thread

Sat Feb 17, 2007 12:57 am

A shame that you see these birds so rarely now in Europe.
I like'em so much and hope that'll stay at least with Iberia some time so we can see them

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RE: The DC-9/MD-80/90/717 Fleets Thread

Sat Feb 17, 2007 1:00 am

I love the series. Next month, I will have flown on all variants. I've flown on NW DC-9's (who hasn't), I've flown on AS and DL MD-80's, DL MD-90's, and then next month, I'll be flying on AirTran 717's.
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RE: The DC-9/MD-80/90/717 Fleets Thread

Sat Feb 17, 2007 2:38 am

Quoting Jush (Reply 26):
A shame that you see these birds so rarely now in Europe.
I like'em so much and hope that'll stay at least with Iberia some time so we can see them

AZ has quite a large fleet on MD-82's as well. The future of that fleet will be decided when the future of the airline is sorted out.

Much like the 727, I believe the MD-80 series aircraft will be flying in the states years after they are retired in Europe.

Quoting Floridaflyboy (Reply 27):
I love the series. Next month, I will have flown on all variants. I've flown on NW DC-9's (who hasn't), I've flown on AS and DL MD-80's, DL MD-90's, and then next month, I'll be flying on AirTran 717's

Of all of those which is your favorite? If I had to choose I'd go with the MD-90.
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RE: The DC-9/MD-80/90/717 Fleets Thread

Sat Feb 17, 2007 2:44 am

Too bad Finnair does not have MD-80's any more. They were beautiful.

In Finland we can still enjoy SAS and Blue1 MD-planes...  Smile
 
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RE: The DC-9/MD-80/90/717 Fleets Thread

Sat Feb 17, 2007 4:29 am

Quoting TrijetsRMissed (Reply 28):
Of all of those which is your favorite? If I had to choose I'd go with the MD-90.

Absolutely agreed 100%! I love the MD-90. I remember flying them out of BIL to SLC way back when. Quite an airplane, and a novelty, considering how few of them there are.
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RE: The DC-9/MD-80/90/717 Fleets Thread

Sat Feb 17, 2007 5:12 am

Anyone who misses the MD80 should spend a full day at either Copenhagen (CPH) or Dallas (DFW).

Almost all of the 50 SK MD80s are based at CPH and the Nordic MadDogs are also frequent visitors here.
I don't think there has ever been a more loyal MD-costumer than SK. They operated the DC-8 (no 707s), DC-9s (no 737 classic or 727s) & DC-10s for many years and the MD80 is still going strong after 20+ years of service.

I would think CPH has around 200 MD80 movements a day, and at DFW it seems like there's an MD80 taking off landing every minute. During a 3-day visit to DFW in 2004 I logged 270+ different AA MD80 frames.

In December SK tested a hushkit on LN-ROR, but apparently decided not to buy the kit for the rest of the MD fleet. Perhaps anyone knows why ?

AFAIK no MD-80 replacement is due with SK within the next 4-5 years (at least). This is mainly due to the financial situation in SK.

Quoting Prebennorholm (Reply 12):
BTW, where have all the Swissair MD-80s gone? They couldn't have been more than 15-20 years old

Most of these SR MD80s were very early exampels (1980-1983) and many of them went to TWA and later AA. Most are now stored in Roswell awaiting scrapping.

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RE: The DC-9/MD-80/90/717 Fleets Thread

Sat Feb 17, 2007 6:26 am

Quoting Dahlgardo (Reply 31):
I don't think there has ever been a more loyal MD-costumer than SK. They operated the DC-8 (no 707s), DC-9s (no 737 classic or 727s) & DC-10s for many years and the MD80 is still going strong after 20+ years of service.

I'd agree with you in terms of European airlines, but they did cancel their MD-11 order before it got off the ground. I'd say DL was their biggest customer, in general, from the jet age on. Also the final nail in the coffin for the manufacturer when the remaining MD-90 orders were cancelled.

Quoting Floridaflyboy (Reply 30):
Absolutely agreed 100%! I love the MD-90. I remember flying them out of BIL to SLC way back when. Quite an airplane, and a novelty, considering how few of them there are.

Indeed it is a novelty. You'd think out of all the US airlines that operated MD-80's, which was basically every legacy carrier but UA, at least one would have ordered the jet other than DL. I flew it from ORD-SLC, the BIL leg was a CRJ700 unfortunately. Great airplane, quietest cabin. My favorite narrowbody.  bigthumbsup 
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RE: The DC-9/MD-80/90/717 Fleets Thread

Sat Feb 17, 2007 6:59 am

Quoting TrijetsRMissed (Reply 32):
Indeed it is a novelty. You'd think out of all the US airlines that operated MD-80's, which was basically every legacy carrier but UA, at least one would have ordered the jet other than DL. I flew it from ORD-SLC, the BIL leg was a CRJ700 unfortunately. Great airplane, quietest cabin. My favorite narrowbody.

Yep. It is definitely the best narrowbody. I'm going to have to add you to my RU list just because you share that opinion. lol.
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RE: The DC-9/MD-80/90/717 Fleets Thread

Sat Feb 17, 2007 8:32 am

Quoting Saab2000 (Reply 25):
Just flew from DCA-MKE about 3 days ago on Midwest in row #1. Best seat in one of the nicest airplanes on the best carrier in the US. Hard to beat that commute!

I flew (again) recently on an Olympic 717 and the seat pitch on these babies is incredible. I was travelling with a basketball team and even the highest player could stretch his legs without ever touching the seat in front of him.

I really don't know the economics for Olympic for such passenger comfort but I must say I thought it's one of the best planes I ever flew on - nice, quiet, new, smooth ride and great comfort.
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RE: The DC-9/MD-80/90/717 Fleets Thread

Sat Feb 17, 2007 11:13 pm

South America also holds a good number of active MD's /DC-9's. At Venezuela you have Aeropostal flying DC-9's and MD-80's, in Colombia is a common sight seeing Avianca's MD-83's, Aerorepublica's DC-9's and MD-80's. I believe Aerolineas Argentinas also flies the MD-80 series. Miami is a common sight for Avianca's MD-83's as they use them on the daily BAQ, CTG - MIA. And we also get the Aeropostal MD80.
 
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RE: The DC-9/MD-80/90/717 Fleets Thread

Sun Feb 18, 2007 7:08 am

What happened to all of the YX DC-9's? I know some went to Africa, some went to South America, but I've been a little "out of the loop" for awhile.

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