Quetzal
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Are IL-62's Being Withdrawn?

Mon Feb 19, 2007 5:32 pm

A friend of mine suggested to me recently that if I want to fly on an IL-62 for the first time, then my time is running out.

He stated that the Russian authorities had revoked authority to produce new spare parts for this aircraft - or something to that effect?

Can anyone elaborate?

If so, (and I know a similar thread was posted - almost a year ago now, but updated info would be nice) what kind of routes/operators are still available? I'm guessing I'd need to start in Moscow?
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RE: Are IL-62's Being Withdrawn?

Mon Feb 19, 2007 6:44 pm

From Wiki....

"In August 2006 a total of 88 Ilyushin Il-62 aircraft remain in airline service. Major operators include: TAAG Air Angola (4), Air Koryo (4), Interavia Airlines (3), Dalavia Far East Airways (7), Air Kokshetau (3), Domodedovo Airlines (17), Rossiya (8), Uzbekistan Airways (5) and Cubana (11). Some 16 other airlines also operate smaller numbers of the type"
 
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RE: Are IL-62's Being Withdrawn?

Mon Feb 19, 2007 8:09 pm

Quoting EGBJ (Reply 1):
TAAG Air Angola (4)

I believe that's incorrect. The latest photo from the database is from 1997. You bet the spotters would have photographed them since then ! Also, they ordered Boeings to replace them.

Quoting Quetzal (Thread starter):
A friend of mine suggested to me recently that if I want to fly on an IL-62 for the first time, then my time is running out.

He stated that the Russian authorities had revoked authority to produce new spare parts for this aircraft - or something to that effect?

Yes, your time is running out. But I don't think it's for the reason your friend stated. The IL-62 is simply being withdrawn because of its horrible economics.

Quoting Quetzal (Thread starter):
If so, (and I know a similar thread was posted - almost a year ago now, but updated info would be nice) what kind of routes/operators are still available? I'm guessing I'd need to start in Moscow?

SU flew them weekly (or every 2 weeks) on the SVO-LAD route, but I can't find the flight anymore. Domodedovo Airlines flies them to the Far East, e.g. DME-GDX (Magadan). Cubana might also be a possibility.


Edit: Amadeus shows the SU SVO-LAD flight as a Tu-154M. That puzzles me, because it can't fly the route nonstop. Maybe an error ?

[Edited 2007-02-19 12:15:14]
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RE: Are IL-62's Being Withdrawn?

Mon Feb 19, 2007 8:18 pm

Do SU still have that single IL62 laying about?
 
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RE: Are IL-62's Being Withdrawn?

Mon Feb 19, 2007 8:24 pm

Your best bet is Cubana. TAAG hasn't had them for a while in active service and I don't think Uzbekistan has either, to fly the Air Koryo models you need to be on an official tour of the country as independent travel is banned, and in Russia although there are several flights still flown on them they almost all operate weekly and to some very remote Siberian destinations which could well be a little daunting if you don't speak the language well. Cubana though does have a good sized fleet and operate regular flights on them throughout the Caribbean, plus it's reasonably inexpensive to get there and the flights are reasonable; some of the Russian ones I looked at were well over a thousand pounds return!


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RE: Are IL-62's Being Withdrawn?

Mon Feb 19, 2007 8:44 pm

Funnily enough, I was having a look through the December OAG pocket guide and there is an IL62 service running from Dubai to Kinshasa. Cannot remember the name of the airline, but it began with "N". Much as I would like to fly on a 62 ...
 
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RE: Are IL-62's Being Withdrawn?

Mon Feb 19, 2007 9:09 pm

Kinshasa... bring it on!

The crazier the better.

I myself was reading a guidebook about the Russian Far-East today and for the first time heard about Magadan. Whilst adventurous, it sounds like an amazing place. Willing to look at ALL of the available options, dream at first, and then actually start to form a 'realistic' plan. If a 62 gets me there, even better.

Kaitak, if you could find out 'who' is operating that DXB-Kinshasa flight?? Would be tops....
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RE: Are IL-62's Being Withdrawn?

Mon Feb 19, 2007 9:17 pm

Hi A342!

SV operate the TU154 MOSCOW JEDDAH LUANDA

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RE: Are IL-62's Being Withdrawn?

Tue Feb 20, 2007 3:20 am

Quoting EGBJ (Reply 1):
"In August 2006 a total of 88 Ilyushin Il-62 aircraft remain in airline service. Major operators include: TAAG Air Angola (4), Air Koryo (4), Interavia Airlines (3), Dalavia Far East Airways (7), Air Kokshetau (3), Domodedovo Airlines (17), Rossiya (8), Uzbekistan Airways (5) and Cubana (11)

Cubana has 11 Ilyushin 62?????  Confused No, Wiki is wrong.

Quoting Lxlgu (Reply 7):
SV operate the TU154 MOSCOW JEDDAH LUANDA

Yes, once a week. What an experience!!!!  Wow!

Hi Quetzal,

As Plymspotter said, your best option is Cubana. Is the last airline with scheduled flights authorised in EU to operate the IL6. CU uses to fly in summer season twice a week the HAV-LPA route with this aircraft. Other routes are from HAV to EZE with an intermediate stop at CCC or CYO. MEX and SDQ are, too served with IL6.

TAAG retired from its fleet the last IL62 in 2005 and was sold to a russian airline. I don't remember the name... And Uzbekistan not flies it since the arrive of the 752's.

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RE: Are IL-62's Being Withdrawn?

Tue Feb 20, 2007 3:21 am

Quoting A342 (Reply 2):
I believe that's incorrect. The latest photo from the database is from 1997. You bet the spotters would have photographed them since then ! Also, they ordered Boeings to replace them.

The Boeing 747-300 replaced them. Now they are going to replace the 743 with 772. 732 to be replaced with 737NG.

Quoting EI321 (Reply 3):
Do SU still have that single IL62 laying about?

Not for scheduled operation. The LAD flights used to have been operated with a Rossia IL6.

Quoting Quetzal (Thread starter):
I'm guessing I'd need to start in Moscow?

Outside Russia the best option would be the twice weekly Cubana SDQ-HAV vv run or PEK-FNJ vv which is also twice a week.
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RE: Are IL-62's Being Withdrawn?

Tue Feb 20, 2007 3:28 am

Quoting RAFVC10 (Reply 8):
CU uses to fly in summer season twice a week the HAV-LPA route with this aircraft

Afraid I don't think they are operating this flight this year, I can't find it on Amadeus, but hopefully it's just not been added yet. Would have been great, as last year it was the last IL-62 flying trans-Atlantic.


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RE: Are IL-62's Being Withdrawn?

Tue Feb 20, 2007 3:38 am

Quoting RAFVC10 (Reply 8):
As Plymspotter said, your best option is Cubana. Is the last airline with scheduled flights authorised in EU to operate the IL6.

Not so. SNN sees Rossiya IL62s on charter flights to both the Caribbean and the Canaries, often from Murmansk, 2 or 3 times a month in the winter, this winter being no exception. These flights are in addition to the regular flights to the US on Government business to the UN and the odd time to Washington

[Edited 2007-02-19 19:41:10]
 
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RE: Are IL-62's Being Withdrawn?

Tue Feb 20, 2007 6:08 am

HAV - BOG is also flown with IL-62 once weekly.
I saw it approaching some day and it was one of the sexiest Aviathings I've seen.
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RE: Are IL-62's Being Withdrawn?

Tue Feb 20, 2007 7:24 am

I have just been checking out the Cubana website and I see that you could take an IL-62 from HAV to SDQ on 2/22 in business class for only $290.
That's not bad at all.
I think I will have to look into doing a trip like this.
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RE: Are IL-62's Being Withdrawn?

Tue Feb 20, 2007 1:34 pm

Jeremy,

I would be interested in making a trip on an IL62 as well. I am a pilot as well as an aviation buff. If you are interested email me.

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RE: Are IL-62's Being Withdrawn?

Tue Feb 20, 2007 2:55 pm

Just out of curiosity, how do all of you folks with those U.S. flags plan to "pull off" your Cubana trips? If you know how, please let me know. I have wanted to fly on one of these beasts for years!
 
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RE: Are IL-62's Being Withdrawn?

Tue Feb 20, 2007 3:48 pm

Quoting Crownvic (Reply 15):
Just out of curiosity, how do all of you folks with those U.S. flags plan to "pull off" your Cubana trips? If you know how, please let me know. I have wanted to fly on one of these beasts for years!

Can't US Citizen ask, not to stamp their passports? Basically you should be fine then, right? I only know that Cuba doesn't care if US Citizen visite their country, the other way around would be another story.
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RE: Are IL-62's Being Withdrawn?

Wed Feb 21, 2007 9:43 am

Quoting Crownvic (Reply 15):
Just out of curiosity, how do all of you folks with those U.S. flags plan to "pull off" your Cubana trips? If you know how, please let me know. I have wanted to fly on one of these beasts for years!

Not quite sure yet how they do it, but when I was in Mexico recently there were a large group of Americans flying over to Havana.
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RE: Are IL-62's Being Withdrawn?

Wed Feb 21, 2007 2:54 pm

Swissgabe...I have no idea if you can do that or not, but perhaps somebody else here knows?

Jeremy...Yes, there are many Americans going into Cuba, but usually, it under special circumstances that are pre-approved by the State Department. However, I think my request for going to Cuba just to ride on the IL-62 might wind up buying me a ticket to the insane asylum!
 
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RE: Are IL-62's Being Withdrawn?

Wed Feb 21, 2007 9:19 pm

No more IL62 in service for TAAG.

The only 2 regular "National" airlines to operate the IL62 on schedulled flights are CUBANA DE AVIACION (Cuba) and AIR KORYO (North Korea).

The IL62 is still operated by amny "private" airlines of countries from the former Soviet Union, many of them were inherited from Aeroflot after the "burst" of the USSR, or sold as second hand aircraft.
Even those airlines, biggest operators of the IL62 are now replacing them mostly by Western aircraft , such as VIM (B757).

The Russian Government is now probably the last biggest operator of the Great beautiful IL62 ...
 
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RE: Are IL-62's Being Withdrawn?

Wed Feb 21, 2007 9:54 pm

Am flying an IL62 on 7 April PEK-FNJ and I can't wait. Just hoping they don't sub it for a TU-154... Then on 11 April flying FNJ-SHE on hopefully the TU-154 (very unlikely they'd sub this for IL-62)
 
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RE: Are IL-62's Being Withdrawn?

Wed Feb 21, 2007 11:57 pm

Try Cubana's IL-62
Not sure if they still fly to Cancun but when they did (2001), it was only $175 roundtrip to Havana.
Cubans love to see Americans come and visit. It's our governemnt that has a problem with us going down there.

Cubana's service was really good also.

I took this photo. It was the first IL-62 interior shot added to the database.


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