helvknight
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LCY Closed Due To Incident

Tue Feb 20, 2007 6:39 pm

I'm sat in the departure lounge at LCY and they have closed the runway. There is an AF Avro at the end of the runway, aparently it burst a tyre on landing.

Flights are being cancelled left and right, I am just waiting for my LX flight to ZRH to follow suit  Sad

I've heard that a lot of the incoming traffic is being diverted to Southend.
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birka340
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RE: LCY Closed Due To Incident

Tue Feb 20, 2007 6:52 pm

Both SAS flights SK509 CPH-LCY and SK517 ARN-LCY are diverted to Stansted Airport.

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pilot21
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RE: LCY Closed Due To Incident

Tue Feb 20, 2007 7:00 pm

This note has been posted on the LCY website:

London City Airport
We can confirm that an incident occurred at London City Airport this morning. The incident involved an Air France aircraft from Paris Orly flight number AF5020.

On landing at 08.35 the aircraft tyres burst. We can confirm the aircraft safely came to rest at the Eastern End of the runway and all passengers and crew on board have been safety transported to the terminal.

The runway is currently closed and we recommend all passengers travelling via London City Airport today contact their Airlines directly for further travel information.
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RE: LCY Closed Due To Incident

Tue Feb 20, 2007 7:34 pm

Ouch  Sad How you get home ok !
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lxlgu
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RE: LCY Closed Due To Incident

Tue Feb 20, 2007 7:37 pm

Sorry Helvknight

I see your incoming LX flight was diverted to Stansted
 
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RE: LCY Closed Due To Incident

Tue Feb 20, 2007 8:38 pm

As long as they don't send them to bloody Biggin Hill - I was stuck there for 6 hours once when VLM planes were diverted to there - the staff didn't even know that there were 4 buses of passengers arriving and hadn't got a clue how to cope.......
 
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RE: LCY Closed Due To Incident

Tue Feb 20, 2007 9:05 pm

Biggin Hill is an oldy! Does this field see regular sceduled flights besides an diversion from LCY or other London a/pts?
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RE: LCY Closed Due To Incident

Tue Feb 20, 2007 9:07 pm

Not totally sure but I think it's mainly private planes and flying clubs?
 
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RE: LCY Closed Due To Incident

Tue Feb 20, 2007 9:10 pm

Biggin Hill is the closest airfield to LCY and could handle any LCY size aircraft - outside of the terminal - which is designed for Biz-Jet pax. Any more than 10 people at a time causes a problem
 
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RE: LCY Closed Due To Incident

Tue Feb 20, 2007 9:25 pm

Quoting Helvknight (Thread starter):
There is an AF Avro at the end of the runway,

Are you sure it's an Avro or is it a BAE146? I hope it isn't the Avro as WX only got that aircraft in December.

Does anyone have the reg?
 
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RE: LCY Closed Due To Incident

Tue Feb 20, 2007 9:31 pm

How long will it take to take away the aircraft and clear / open the runway? it's not that damaged is it?

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RE: LCY Closed Due To Incident

Tue Feb 20, 2007 9:32 pm

Quoting KL911 (Reply 10):
How long will it take to take away the aircraft and clear / open the runway? it's not that damaged is it?

KL911

Just push it into the dock!
 
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RE: LCY Closed Due To Incident

Tue Feb 20, 2007 10:18 pm

Hmmm, VLM, the biggest operator of LCY states at their website that no flights are possible till at least 14.00 GMT. After that they hope they can start their services again.

Is this true? Anyone at LCY with more info as to what time it will reopen?

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RE: LCY Closed Due To Incident

Tue Feb 20, 2007 10:38 pm

Latest info. coming through the media channels are that LCY and Cityjet are discussing ways to move the aircraft off the runway, but given this happened at 8.35am this morning, and I make it 1.35pm, it sounds like the airline and airport haven't really planned for this type of event. Obviously if the wheel was badly shredded and damaged the fuselage, the CAA might have to be called in, but if it is just a burst tire, it seems they are making a bit of a mess of sorting it out.

Latest info is that the airport will be closed several more hour's, but I've no idea what time that info was released by the airport I'm afraid.


Compounding the problem is the fact that the plane is stuck at the eastern end of the runway, away from the terminal and ramp area, so it has to back track down the runway to get out of the way.
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RE: LCY Closed Due To Incident

Tue Feb 20, 2007 10:53 pm

It clearly shows the weakness of an airport like London city- if an aircraft with blown tires causes the place to be shut for 7 hours,holy sh.. what would it take for a real serious incident ?
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helvknight
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RE: LCY Closed Due To Incident

Wed Feb 21, 2007 2:56 am

OK, I'm finally home.

Jeez what a journey.

What happened is that it was a Cityjet (AF/WX Bae 146 not Avro, sorry) flight, they had a problem with the brakes and the wheels locked. All 4 tyres burst.

I eventually left for LHR at about 11:30, talking to the girl on the check in desk they were going to have to bring in a crane to shift the plane, it wouldn't be at the airport till about 12:00, probably it wouldn't be moved till at least 14:00. In fact the wibsite says the runway wasn't clear and the airport reopened till 17:05.  devil 

It was chaos on wheels - no real info and a single ticket desk dealing with about 5 airlines including LX, you can imagine the queues - I waited 2 hours before I gave up and there were about 100 people in front of me. This is where I had a problem, there were no contingency plans that I could see of, they were even letting pax into the terminal although they weren't letting them check in. Before they cancelled my flight and I went landside the terminal area was jammed to the doors. (I was a bit amused when I and a few other cancelled passengers were challenged by the jobsworths when we exited the sterile area without putting our bags on the belt  biggrin  )

I went to LHR even though I had no rebooking, LX at LHR were pretty helpful and got me just about the last seat on the 13:50 flight. Finally got home 4 hours late.
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RE: LCY Closed Due To Incident

Wed Feb 21, 2007 4:04 am

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AF tyre blow at LCY 20 Feb 2007


took this while walking past just after lunch.
 
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RE: LCY Closed Due To Incident

Wed Feb 21, 2007 4:12 am

Quoting IcLCY (Reply 16):
took this while walking past just after lunch.

Did you manage to get the reg by any chance??
 
iclcy
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RE: LCY Closed Due To Incident

Wed Feb 21, 2007 4:37 am

Afraid not, the angle of the aircraft & major constuction projects on both the north & south sides of the dock blocked the best viewing areas for this(eastern) end of the runway.
 
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RE: LCY Closed Due To Incident

Wed Feb 21, 2007 4:49 am

Quoting DALCE (Reply 6):
Biggin Hill is an oldy! Does this field see regular sceduled flights besides an diversion from LCY or other London a/pts?

AFAIK there's quite a few mail flights operate out of there in the evening, BAC Express F50s etc.
 
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RE: LCY Closed Due To Incident

Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:29 am

Quoting Scouseflyer (Reply 11):
Just push it into the dock!

LOL !
Then call in a squad of soldiers with explosives to blow off the fin !
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RE: LCY Closed Due To Incident

Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:32 am

Here's the last update from LCY web site

London City Airport can confirm that the airfield is now fully open for arriving and departing aircraft. The disabled aircraft, involved in the incident this morning, was recovered and removed from the runway at 17:04. As the aircraft was being towed the Airport’s Operations team conducted a full runway inspection, declaring the airfield open at 17:05.

As a result of the incident this morning, all airline services have been disrupted. London City Airport would like to apologise for any inconvenience caused and advise all passengers to contact their airline for further travel information.

The incident involved an Air France flight, operated by CityJet, from Paris Orly, flight number AF5020 (aircraft type BAe146 – 200).

On landing at 08.35 this morning the aircraft tyres burst. We can confirm that the aircraft safely came to rest at the eastern end of the runway and all 55 passengers and 5 crew were safely transported to the terminal.

London City Airport would like to thank the emergency services, who were stood down early this morning once the incident was declared safe, and airport and airline staff for their support in assisting the Airport to return to full operational status. Finally, we would like to thank all passengers affected by today’s incident for their understanding and patience
 
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RE: LCY Closed Due To Incident

Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:33 am

Quoting Beaucaire (Reply 14):
It clearly shows the weakness of an airport like London city- if an aircraft with blown tires causes the place to be shut for 7 hours,holy sh.. what would it take for a real serious incident ?

Not sure if this is what you're getting at, but having a second runway doesn't necessarily help with tyre bursts (although most parallel runway systems would be alright). In October 2005, a Thai A340-600 landed in Melbourne in strong crosswinds, burst a number of tyres and skidded along the runway (RWY16/34). The aircraft stopped on RYW16/34, but within the runway strip for the cross runway (RWY09/27)... which, naturally, closed the entire airport for a number of hours (the deep gash in RWY16/34 left by the wheel rims didn't help though).
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RE: LCY Closed Due To Incident

Wed Feb 21, 2007 7:28 am

Quoting Beaucaire (Reply 14):
It clearly shows the weakness of an airport like London city- if an aircraft with blown tires causes the place to be shut for 7 hours,holy sh.. what would it take for a real serious incident ?

I'm sorry, but this comment has really annoyed me. I work at LCY, and was watching and helping out with the recovery operation today. An airport like LCY does not have engineering support on-site. A specialist team from Stansted had to be called to LCY to help recover the 146.

We couldn't actually move the aircraft due to the weight put onto the gear, as all 4 main tyres had burst. The operation was done as quickly as possible, making safety the number one priority.

From 15:00 onwards, a shortened runway was opened for departing traffic only - but depending on size and weight of the aircraft.

At 18:00 the aircraft had been towed off of the runway and onto the western apron. The airport then re-opened.

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RE: LCY Closed Due To Incident

Wed Feb 21, 2007 8:51 am

Britain's airports have always been prone to this sort of trouble Manchester used to have this problem until they opened the second RWy one time a British Airways Concorde did the same, blew its mains which messed things up for hours. On another occasion a British Airtours 737 court fire and closed the airport for I believe a whole day.
Many of our airports have just one RWy so if things happen it closes the airport and there is nothing they can do about it.
 
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RE: LCY Closed Due To Incident

Wed Feb 21, 2007 11:05 am

That british airtours incident that you are referring to resulted in many fatalties and as with any fatal accident the investigation takes time. This incident at LCY was minor in comparrison to that. BTW does anyone know how long MAN's runway was closed after the british airtours incident?

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