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AF To SEA

Tue Feb 20, 2007 9:12 pm

Air France Opens New U.S. Gateway in Seattle
Tuesday February 20, 4:00 am ET


Expanding Its U.S. Market Presence


NEW YORK, NY--(MARKET WIRE)--Feb 20, 2007 -- Air France announces the opening of its 13th U.S. gateway, Seattle, with a new, daily non-stop flight to Paris beginning June 11, 2007.
Throughout the past decade, Air France has continually expanded its presence in the United States. It has done this through the addition of new flights and gateways across the country. With the addition of the Seattle flight, Air France now covers the U.S. Northwestern market, giving its passengers greater access to Paris and beyond.

"We are pleased to add Seattle as our newest gateway," said Air France Vice President and General Manager Marie-Joseph Malé. "Seattle is home to many leaders in the aerospace, biotechnology, computer technology and manufacturing industries, among others. We are confident that both the business community and the diverse international population in the Seattle area will benefit from our extensive global network and enjoy the exceptional travel experience Air France offers its passengers."

Flight Schedule

Flight AF041 offers a convenient departure from Seattle at 16:55 p.m., arriving at Paris-Charles de Gaulle Airport at 11:40 a.m. the following day. The return flight, AF046, departs at 13:20 p.m. and arrives in Seattle at 14:35 p.m. the same day.

The Seattle flight offers easy connections beyond Paris with Air France's expansive global network throughout Europe, Asia, the Middle East and Africa.

New Travel Concept

The Seattle flight will be serviced with an A330-200 featuring Air France's New Travel Concept in a two-class configuration: 40 seats in l'Espace Affaires Business Class and 179 in Tempo Economy Class. Air France's New Travel Concept adds more space, new seats and chic interiors to provide passengers with a relaxing and comfortable travel experience.
 
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RE: AF To SEA

Tue Feb 20, 2007 9:19 pm

This one has been on the rumour mill for a few years now so great to see it going ahead.Will it be daily?
 
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RE: AF To SEA

Tue Feb 20, 2007 9:20 pm

Quoting Donder10 (Reply 1):
Will it be daily?



Quoting Dolphinflyer (Thread starter):
Air France announces the opening of its 13th U.S. gateway, Seattle, with a new, daily non-stop flight to Paris

Great news for SEA!
 
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RE: AF To SEA

Tue Feb 20, 2007 9:40 pm

Many of us new that AF would be starting new a US gateway, but until recently it remained unclear whether either DFW or SEA would be picked for this new service. The actual number of US gateways for Air France will not increase, as the airline will not be returning to CVG next summer, leaving the CDG CVG route to just Delta.
 
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RE: AF To SEA

Tue Feb 20, 2007 9:43 pm

This is great news for SEA. They can get O&D and pax can transfer onto NW flights easily.

Now how about MSP...
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RE: AF To SEA

Tue Feb 20, 2007 9:49 pm

Quoting Centrair (Reply 4):
Now how about MSP...

I'm pretty sure that any potential CDG MSP service would be operated by NW, while AF is aiming at restarting service to DFW as its next US gateway.
 
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RE: AF To SEA

Tue Feb 20, 2007 9:53 pm

This is exciting. SEA is finally getting another carrier to Europe. All the international carriers in the last decade have been to asia. Now BA, SK and NW have more competition. I'm really excited. All SEA needs now is LH.

It was not clear if this will be year round daily service to me. Did I miss it? It wouldn't surprise me if winter service dropped to 3 or 4 a week since SEA is somewhat seasonal. BA has loads in the 60s in the winter but 90s in the summer from what I have heard for comparison's sake.
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RE: AF To SEA

Tue Feb 20, 2007 10:13 pm

Great news for Seattle, this makes two European carriers now. SEA has being making progress as far as getting foreing carriers. Hopefully AF or BA look at San Diego next. SAN deserves better. On the West Coast, LAX and SFO usually steal all the thunder.
 
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RE: AF To SEA

Tue Feb 20, 2007 10:44 pm

Great news for SEA and AF. Always nice to see AF (and other European powerhouses) making expansions in the states.
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RE: AF To SEA

Tue Feb 20, 2007 11:04 pm

What happened to SLC?

Quote:
The actual number of US gateways for Air France will not increase, as the airline will not be returning to CVG next summer, leaving the CDG CVG route to just Delta

Will AF eventually return? CVG used to have the 777 and an AF A340 during the summer (and from what i heard were full most the time), now there is only a 763 (could DL43/44 become a 764 ever?)!



Why couldn't AF send at least an A330 during the peak summer months!
 
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RE: AF To SEA

Tue Feb 20, 2007 11:13 pm

Good news for the USA! I read that AF was considering YVR as its gateway in the Pacific Northwest. More stringent visa requirements probably meant that YVR was no longer a convenient transit point for passengers travelling between the northwest United States and CDG. The alliance with NW, market demand for stronger air-links between the Pacific Northwest and Europe, and the fact that SEA is a thriving regional business center all support Air France's choice. Either DEN or DFW will be AF's next destination in the United States.
 
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RE: AF To SEA

Wed Feb 21, 2007 12:24 am

Quoting Juventus (Reply 7):
Great news for Seattle, this makes two European carriers now.

Actually AF makes three European carriers serving SEA with their own metal: BA, SK and now AF.
 
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RE: AF To SEA

Wed Feb 21, 2007 12:44 am

GREAT!!!!! GREAT!!!!!!! GREAT NEWS!!!!!!!

It will be so nice to visit Boeing with direct Flight from Paris.

I am in a meeting with Boeing guys,and for sure everybody is very happy about that Air France Decision.

A lot of French Companies are working for Boeing and this new flight will make our life much more easy.

Last request to Air France:

PLEASE CHANGE YOUR IFE TO THALES OR PANASONIC.

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RE: AF To SEA

Wed Feb 21, 2007 12:59 am

Quoting Juventus (Reply 7):
Hopefully AF or BA look at San Diego next.

Didn't BA serve SAN through PHX years ago with a B744? They must have stopped the flight for some reason?
 
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RE: AF To SEA

Wed Feb 21, 2007 1:05 am

I wish the CDG-BLR flight was aligned to this flight. SEA-CDG flight arrives at CDG at 11:40am, but CDG-BLR flight leaves at 11:25 AM  Sad The return journey is not bad, as BLR-CDG flight arrives at 8:50AM at CDG and CDG-SEA leaves at 13:20. Still can't beat BA with one stop service to SEA-BLR in both directions
 
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RE: AF To SEA

Wed Feb 21, 2007 1:20 am

Quoting ElGreco (Reply 12):
I am in a meeting with Boeing guys,and for sure everybody is very happy about that Air France Decision

Ironic that Boeing employees flying with one of Boeing's biggest customers would be flying to/from SEA on an A332 Big grin
 
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RE: AF To SEA

Wed Feb 21, 2007 1:21 am

Could SEA turn into a mini Skyteam hub with AF, NW, CO and DL? AF, DL and NW currently have marketing agreements with Alaska Airlines either through their frequent flyer programmes (Alaska is a partner carrier in AF's Flying Blue programme) or through code-shares. Could this mean Alaska may soon head towards Skyteam membership? Interesting...
 
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RE: AF To SEA

Wed Feb 21, 2007 1:39 am

Quoting Centrair (Reply 4):
This is great news for SEA. They can get O&D and pax can transfer onto NW flights easily.

I think they're aiming for regional O&D, not connecting opportunities on NW. NW doesn't exactly cover a lot of ground out of SEA. HNL, MSP, MEM, DTW are all better served by other flights leaving CDG. Alaska and Horizon are really the reason they're coming to SEA. Both airlines offer miles to the other's frequent fliers, and the excellent west coast networks mean that all regional O&D will naturally want to gravitate towards SEA instead of LAX. Should be interesting to see what happens.
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RE: AF To SEA

Wed Feb 21, 2007 1:46 am

Sounds great. Concourse A, I presume? When an airline sets up in a new city with one flight a day, do they bring in their own people or do they contract with someone already doing business at the airport?
 
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RE: AF To SEA

Wed Feb 21, 2007 1:49 am

Good news for SEA. Bummer they didn't pick PDX  Sad But, this is great news for the northwest! It will now be MUCH cheaper to get to CDG out of PDX

It'll be fun to see how the flight performs!
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RE: AF To SEA

Wed Feb 21, 2007 1:49 am

This is great! We've been waiting a long time for this.

Now, come on LH!
 
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RE: AF To SEA

Wed Feb 21, 2007 2:05 am

Quoting Nwray (Reply 18):
Concourse A, I presume?

South Satelite. All international flights have to arrive here and it's not practical to move the aircraft to another position after it has been emptied. Not to mention the cost involved.
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RE: AF To SEA

Wed Feb 21, 2007 2:19 am

Quoting LN-MOW (Reply 21):
Quoting Nwray (Reply 18):
Concourse A, I presume?

South Satelite. All international flights have to arrive here and it's not practical to move the aircraft to another position after it has been emptied. Not to mention the cost involved.

Most likely correct, but their have been instances where the arrival is at S, then the plane moves over to another gate for the departure. AA, UA both did this for Tokyo (I think UA now comes in as a domestic arrival, so not an issue any longer), Finnair, SAS both moved over to N at one point or another. I could see DL handling AF here in Seattle, in which case A would make sense, similar to China Air to Taipei (though that is technically a domestic arrival).
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RE: AF To SEA

Wed Feb 21, 2007 2:34 am

Great news, and long-time coming - this has been rumored for years. I figured that NW would have started it first, but the flight should definitely do well with all the connecting opportunities on both ends (don't forget that AS is a partner with AF).

I think the A330 is the perfect sized aircraft for the route as well. I recently flew SEA-AMS-SEA with NW, and the flight was packed in both ways, even during the low season. People were connecting to all sorts of places, including BCN, BRU, NBO, and BOM. Also, on the return, there were quite a few Europeans connecting to NW's flight to HNL.

Quoting Juventus (Reply 7):
Great news for Seattle, this makes two European carriers now.

Actually, it makes three! BA, SK, and AF
 
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RE: AF To SEA

Wed Feb 21, 2007 2:46 am

Quoting Searpqx (Reply 22):
I could see DL handling AF here in Seattle, in which case A would make sense, similar to China Air to Taipei

They don't move CA. CA's eastbound flight arrives and departs from S and the westbound arrives and departs from A.
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RE: AF To SEA

Wed Feb 21, 2007 2:58 am

And YX is coming to SEA in April! Non-stop to Kansas City!!! Now i'll be able to have a taste of YX and AF in SEA. YES!!!!!!!
 
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RE: AF To SEA

Wed Feb 21, 2007 3:18 am

Over all good news for North-West travelers, a direct non-stop to a new European destination with a wide range of possible connections beyond Paris. But common choosing Seattle over Vancouver ?! Oh well I guess Air Canada's service between Vancouver and Paris is now a MUST!
 
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RE: AF To SEA

Wed Feb 21, 2007 4:36 am

Great News!! good for Seattle. I am sure the YVR Airport authority is not happy about this one! i dont think they had much of a chance with Air France with KLM flying to YVR and the lack of Vancouver's inclusion the Canada-France bi latteral agreement. I am sure you will now see some one start up YVR-CDG >
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RE: AF To SEA

Wed Feb 21, 2007 4:40 am

Quoting SeattleFlyer (Reply 20):
Now, come on LH!

Is it likely that LH would fly to YVR, SEA, and PDX? I assume that a large percentage of LH passengers travelling between SEA and FRA currently transfer in PDX. I doubt that LH would close PDX and start flying to SEA instead. The only way this may work is if LH flew from SEA to MUC, and from YVR and PDX to FRA.
 
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RE: AF To SEA

Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:11 am

Is there a codeshare with AS?
 
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RE: AF To SEA

Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:13 am

Quoting EXAAUADL (Reply 29):
Is there a codeshare with AS?

probably not but DL for sure
 
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RE: AF To SEA

Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:26 am

Score. I've been waiting on this one for a few years, glad to see it finally happen. Congrats to all parties involved.
 
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RE: AF To SEA

Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:30 am

Quoting BigGSFO (Reply 11):
Actually AF makes three European carriers serving SEA with their own metal: BA, SK and now AF.

Well, if you ask the Brits, they're not really a part of Europe, so take that back down to two Euro carriers.  Big grin

Quoting TYCOON (Reply 16):
Could this mean Alaska may soon head towards Skyteam membership?

I've often thought AS would make a great Skyteam carrier - it would bring a much-needed western network. But, don't forget AS is also strongly tied to AA - more so than it is to CO or DL, in my estimation. Not that this needs to be a showstopper, but remember that AS thrives on its codeshares.

Quoting Searpqx (Reply 22):
I think UA now comes in as a domestic arrival, so not an issue any longer

How does this work? Does NRT have Canada-style US pre-clearance?
 
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RE: AF To SEA

Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:32 am

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 6):
It was not clear if this will be year round daily service to me. Did I miss it? It wouldn't surprise me if winter service dropped to 3 or 4 a week since SEA is somewhat seasonal.

Looks like it's Daily, but Seasonal - ending sometime in October.
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RE: AF To SEA

Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:45 am

In the next 10 to 20 years, Seattle is going to become the global center for international public health issues because of the Gates Foundation and the Buffet gift.

Expect more growth of long distance flights into SEA from the great cities of the world.
 
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RE: AF To SEA

Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:46 am

Quoting DiscoverCSG (Reply 32):
How does this work? Does NRT have Canada-style US pre-clearance?

No, what I meant was that the plane that flies on to NRT arrives from a US city. Don't know if this is still the case w/ the 777. When they were using the 744, it originated in ORD.

Quoting DiscoverCSG (Reply 32):
Not that this needs to be a showstopper, but remember that AS thrives on its codeshares.

And they've stated many times they plan to stay unattached. Self described 'code-share whores'.  Wink
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RE: AF To SEA

Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:48 am

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 6):
All SEA needs now is LH.

Unless it's SEA-MUC, it ain't gonna happen. Not as long as SK continues flying here. If that ever changes, then LH would come in with SEA-MUC.

Quoting Airbazar (Reply 15):
Ironic that Boeing employees flying with one of Boeing's biggest customers would be flying to/from SEA on an A332

That's what I don't understand about this new AF flight. It would seem more reasonable, purely for marketing purposes, to put the 777 on this route and move the A330 to another one.

Quoting S12PPL (Reply 19):
Bummer they didn't pick PDX

PDX-CDG on Air France? Don't see it...ever. PDX-AMS on NW will probably be the next announcement for PDX.

Quoting IAD380 (Reply 28):
I doubt that LH would close PDX and start flying to SEA instead.

As long as LH continues to do well in PDX, there won't be any changes. With that said, if the Port of Portland follows tradition and hikes landing fees, anything is possible. LH just increased frequency during the WINTER months to PDX, and I wouldn't be surprised to see it upgraded to A345 or A346 at some point in the future. Cargo alone makes that route work.
 
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RE: AF To SEA

Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:52 am

Quoting Searpqx (Reply 35):
No, what I meant was that the plane that flies on to NRT arrives from a US city.

Yes. #875 from DEN, then on to NRT. #876 is NRT-SEA-DEN.

I'd like to see UA return to Int'l. service from SEA, though that won't happen until the 787's come, and by then...it just might be too late for them....  Sad
 
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RE: AF To SEA

Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:54 am

Quoting Tockeyhockey (Reply 34):
Expect more growth of long distance flights into SEA from the great cities of the world.

...And the 787 will be plane that helps make that happen. Hopefully the 748, too....
 
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RE: AF To SEA

Wed Feb 21, 2007 6:17 am

Quoting Vega (Reply 33):

Looks like it's Daily, but Seasonal - ending sometime in October.

Where are you getting that from? I've read every release I can find on the announcement and none of them have the word "seasonal" anywhere in them. There's no reason AF couldn't make this route work year-round, especially with a smaller widebody like the A332.
 
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RE: AF To SEA

Wed Feb 21, 2007 6:42 am

Quoting N174UA (Reply 36):
As long as LH continues to do well in PDX, there won't be any changes. With that said, if the Port of Portland follows tradition and hikes landing fees, anything is possible.

Hopefully the Port of Portland has learned what a costly error that is in terms of the economic impact to the region.
 
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RE: AF To SEA

Wed Feb 21, 2007 7:09 am

very good news for seattle, i was hoping to see the 777-300er, but 330 is a nice plane too....i was also wondering, why phoenix only has 1 direct departure to the old continent(ba 747), is it because of the high temp or lack of people from this city, anyone?
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RE: AF To SEA

Wed Feb 21, 2007 7:49 am

Quoting N174UA (Reply 36):
That's what I don't understand about this new AF flight. It would seem more reasonable, purely for marketing purposes, to put the 777 on this route and move the A330 to another one.

the 777 is probably too big for this new market for AF at 1st intention. AF usually use the 332 to open new routes or to add frequency to an existing route. If it is successful, we may see a 772 or a 343 on this route next year
 
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RE: AF To SEA

Wed Feb 21, 2007 7:56 am

Quoting DYK (Reply 27):
Great News!! good for Seattle. I am sure the YVR Airport authority is not happy about this one! i dont think they had much of a chance with Air France with KLM flying to YVR and the lack of Vancouver's inclusion the Canada-France bi latteral agreement. I am sure you will now see some one start up YVR-CDG >

My bet is still on Air Tahiti Nui with a PPT-YVR-CDG flight. I keep hearing rumours about it, but the CTA gets in the way of it.
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RE: AF To SEA

Wed Feb 21, 2007 8:08 am

Quoting Jetboy319 (Reply 40):
Hopefully the Port of Portland has learned what a costly error that is in terms of the economic impact to the region.

I admire your optimism....and "rose-y" outlook. Time will tell....
 
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RE: AF To SEA

Wed Feb 21, 2007 8:18 am

Quoting N174UA (Reply 36):
As long as LH continues to do well in PDX, there won't be any changes. With that said, if the Port of Portland follows tradition and hikes landing fees, anything is possible. LH just increased frequency during the WINTER months to PDX, and I wouldn't be surprised to see it upgraded to A345 or A346 at some point in the future. Cargo alone makes that route work.

Speaking of PDX, Apprently KLM is very interested in serving PDX and DFW, rumours from the flight crew.
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RE: AF To SEA

Wed Feb 21, 2007 8:45 am

This is absolutely great new for Seattle and the people in the Pacific Northwest...Good job Seattle..Ofcourse I would love to see it at PDX, but having this new service that close is fine with me.....KLM at PDX? Could Portland support two airlines to Europe?
 
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RE: AF To SEA

Wed Feb 21, 2007 8:46 am

Quoting DYK (Reply 45):

Speaking of PDX, Apprently KLM is very interested in serving PDX

It's hard to see that happening anytime soon. The level of service to Europe that PDX currently sees is pretty consistent with markets of that size and there's not much reason to believe that KL wants to go head to head with LH in competing for seats between Portland and Europe. That said, Portland is growing quickly and it's quite possible we'll see another top-tier European carrier in town somewhere further on down the road.
 
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RE: AF To SEA

Wed Feb 21, 2007 8:59 am

"It's hard to see that happening anytime soon. The level of service to Europe that PDX currently sees is pretty consistent with markets of that size and there's not much reason to believe that KL wants to go head to head with LH in competing for seats between Portland and Europe. That said, Portland is growing quickly and it's quite possible we'll see another top-tier European carrier in town somewhere further on down the road."

I'd say I have to agree with you, however your right the area is growing fast and in maybe 5-10 years I could see a second European and Asian airline entering the Portland market......
 
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RE: AF To SEA

Wed Feb 21, 2007 9:13 am

Quoting N174UA (Reply 36):
That's what I don't understand about this new AF flight. It would seem more reasonable, purely for marketing purposes, to put the 777 on this route and move the A330 to another one.

The travelling public (outside of the people on this forum) could care less of the aircraft type. A non-stop to France far outweights the whole Boeing-vs-Airbus chatter. SK seems to do just fine with their 340's to CPH. Remember, Boeing's HQ left Seattle for Chicago.