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Travelling Between The U.K And JER - Domestic?

Wed Feb 21, 2007 2:05 am

Is a flight which originates within the U.K destined for JER a domestic route? I reckon yes, but my mate (a JER resident) reckons no.

Any ideas anyone?
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RE: Travelling Between The U.K And JER - Domestic?

Wed Feb 21, 2007 2:37 am

Jersey is a Crown Dependency and not part of the U.K (or EC), thus flights from the UK mainland are not classified as domesic and all passengers need to pass through customs and immigration.
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RE: Travelling Between The U.K And JER - Domestic?

Wed Feb 21, 2007 4:40 am

Quoting CV580Freak (Reply 1):
customs and immigration

...or is it just customs?

Travel between UK and Republic of Ireland/Channel Islands used to be called 'Common Travel' - BHX's late 1980s terminal was designed with a 'Common Travel Pier' for ROI and Channel Islands departures/arrivals because the formalities were different from travel to EC/International destinations

One or other (customs or immigration) had different requirements for pax departing to or arriving from these destinations, and I believe there was no immigration, just an identity document check - maybe someone knows more accurately what the rules are/were?
 
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RE: Travelling Between The U.K And JER - Domestic?

Wed Feb 21, 2007 4:45 am

I have only ever travelled by ferry to Jersey, but did not need a passport and there was no customs or immigration, at least by sea.

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RE: Travelling Between The U.K And JER - Domestic?

Wed Feb 21, 2007 4:51 am

Quoting CV580Freak (Reply 1):
not part of the U.K (or EC)

Not part of the European Union (EU) - correct. EC=European Commission.
 
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RE: Travelling Between The U.K And JER - Domestic?

Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:00 am

Jersey is not a domestic destination, however as we are a crown dependancy no passports need to be shown at either end. We are not part of the EU so passengers must clear customs by going through the non-EU channel at airports, although this point seems to be lost on many who head straight for the green channel and rarely encounter any problems.

Interestingly, BA racognises us as a European route, hence why Club Europe and Euro Traveller are the two cabins offered. Domestic destinations lost the Club cabin many years ago.
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RE: Travelling Between The U.K And JER - Domestic?

Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:27 am

The only reason I ask is I'm taking my daughter there Friday, but her passport has expired. Flying with Flybe and I rang them to ask what the "SP" was. They said that photographic I.D was not needed for her (or any child under 16) as long as the accomanying adult had photo I.D for himself and can vouch for the childs identity. That said, a birth certificate would suffice for her as it is, according to her, a domestic route.
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RE: Travelling Between The U.K And JER - Domestic?

Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:56 am

Quoting Cumulus (Reply 6):
Flying with Flybe and I rang them to ask what the "SP" was. They said that photographic I.D was not needed for her (or any child under 16) as long as the accomanying adult had photo I.D for himself and can vouch for the childs identity. That said, a birth certificate would suffice for her as it is, according to her, a domestic route.

That is correct.
the easiest thing for us on the check in is to bring a birth certificate.
Most of the time its not realyl a problem for us

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RE: Travelling Between The U.K And JER - Domestic?

Wed Feb 21, 2007 6:38 am

Quoting E195 (Reply 7):
That is correct.
the easiest thing for us on the check in is to bring a birth certificate.
Most of the time its not realyl a problem for us

David

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RE: Travelling Between The U.K And JER - Domestic?

Thu Feb 22, 2007 7:40 pm

Quoting Cumulus (Reply 8):



Quoting Cumulus (Reply 8):
On the BE229 Thurs!!! Make sure you're at checkin to get me on o.k!!!

wish i could
im no longer a mere check in agent.

im dispatcher now!

BE229 thats the 0800 ish one i think, if so i wont be about as im on lates tomorrow, 1300 - 2130
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RE: Travelling Between The U.K And JER - Domestic?

Thu Feb 22, 2007 9:28 pm

The whole reason BA keeps the club cabin on that route is that it does very, very well. You can have 40+ passengers travelling in it, that's a lot of tray and champagne throwing I can imagine, kudos to BA crews who still serve a fantastic club product on a 30 minute flight, the shortest on the network,

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RE: Travelling Between The U.K And JER - Domestic?

Fri Feb 23, 2007 1:02 am

Do you pay UK taxes from JER?

If not, what are the taxes like?
 
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RE: Travelling Between The U.K And JER - Domestic?

Fri Feb 23, 2007 2:00 am

Quoting JER757 (Reply 5):
BA racognises us as a European route, hence why Club Europe and Euro Traveller are the two cabins offered. Domestic destinations lost the Club cabin many years ago.

Thats not the case at all, it stems from the high yield's achieved in Club Europe at the time of the withdrawal of CE on domestics. If you work for us in JER you'll know who'm im refering to when i say PC was the driving force behind the decision. As it is now JER is the top performing CE route out of LGW at the minute so the decision is certianly vindicated.

To answer the original question, yes Jersey is a domestic destination, however as we are not in the EU, and as such are able to purchase duty free goods, there is still a need, amongst other reasons, to clear customs upon arrival. This is also the reason that Jersey arrivals take a different route at LGW than the other domestics.

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RE: Travelling Between The U.K And JER - Domestic?

Tue Feb 27, 2007 6:09 pm

In short, my little girl travelled with no I.D at all (and none was asked for). The check in agent for Flybe at JER on the way back wasn't too sure as he was new but he was quickly told by the girl at the next counter it was ok.

Flight back was 22 minutes, fastest I've ever done it straight to ORTAC then over the west of the Isle Of Wight straight onto 02 at SOU!!! Took longer to board!!
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