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CX To Add Frequencies To LHR/JFK/SFO And Others

Thu Mar 01, 2007 1:36 am

Cathay Pacific plans to increase frequencies in 2007, particularly a major increase to London, Paris, Frankfurt, New York, San Francisco.

It'll also launch the new cabin and seats from the 2ndhalf of 2007, which made its debut last year.

First 777-300ER will enter service in September

This comes from the New Year press conference held on Feb 27.

Source:
http://www.takungpao.com/news/07/02/27/GW-697853.htm
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RE: CX To Add Frequencies To LHR/JFK/SFO And Others

Thu Mar 01, 2007 1:57 am

Will LHR see the 773ER?

And thats good news, will be nice to see more CX in Europe
 
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RE: CX To Add Frequencies To LHR/JFK/SFO And Others

Thu Mar 01, 2007 2:17 am

Have they given up on the MAN service that was supposed to start last year?
 
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RE: CX To Add Frequencies To LHR/JFK/SFO And Others

Thu Mar 01, 2007 2:24 am

Quoting GayrugbyMAN (Reply 2):

I would love to see that. Would be shocked if it ever happened
 
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RE: CX To Add Frequencies To LHR/JFK/SFO And Others

Thu Mar 01, 2007 2:40 am

I thought LHR was jam packed? Or do they have slots if airlines pay enough?
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RE: CX To Add Frequencies To LHR/JFK/SFO And Others

Thu Mar 01, 2007 2:51 am

For those of us that can't read the link(it's not in English) , does this add anything to the 14 Feb 07 release about this subject other than they are going to increase service when they get new aircraft? Do they talk about frequencies?

JFK - 3x daily?
LHR- 5x daily?
SFO- 2x daily?

It seems CX is not letting Oasis affect their expansion plans - at all.
 
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Thu Mar 01, 2007 2:52 am

Will they fly the 773 to FRA ??
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RE: CX To Add Frequencies To LHR/JFK/SFO And Others

Thu Mar 01, 2007 2:56 am

Quoting Jimyvr (Thread starter):
Cathay Pacific plans to increase frequencies in 2007, particularly a major increase to London, Paris, Frankfurt, New York, San Francisco.

It's interesting that they're adding service to existing markets without putting some of that extra capacity into Chicago.
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RE: CX To Add Frequencies To LHR/JFK/SFO And Others

Thu Mar 01, 2007 3:17 am

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 7):
It's interesting that they're adding service to existing markets without putting some of that extra capacity into Chicago.

Purely speculative and largely uninformed conjecture: Could this be a hint that AA will soon start ORD-HKG?
 
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Thu Mar 01, 2007 3:17 am

I heard about LHR getting an extra frequency a couple months ago on my CX flight from BKK to CMB from the ISM. I usually take cabin crew rumours with a grain of salt, but it looks like it's really happening. Simply incredible

LHR flights.

4 x daily CX (soon 5).
3 x daily BA
1 x daily VX
1 x daily QF
1 x daily NZ

LGW

1 x daily O8

CX is finally matching the increase in frequencies from AF and LH in their respective markets. I wonder if BA will make their HKG flights 4 daily in the near future?
 
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Thu Mar 01, 2007 6:08 am

The rumor of a second SFO flight has been rumored for ages. This would be a nice site and nice additional boost to SFO. Would this possibly be in response to UAL beefing up SFO-HKG?

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Thu Mar 01, 2007 8:09 am

Quoting DiscoverCSG (Reply 8):
Purely speculative and largely uninformed conjecture: Could this be a hint that AA will soon start ORD-HKG?

I doubt it, AA doesn't have a lot of spare equipment and has a pilot's problem which hindered them from flying DFW-PEK, which is shorter by a couple of hours than ORD-HKG non-stop. Plus, they would face serious competition from UA who is already well-established on the route and in Asia.
 
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Thu Mar 01, 2007 8:29 am

Quoting Daron4000 (Reply 11):
I doubt it, AA doesn't have a lot of spare equipment and has a pilot's problem which hindered them from flying DFW-PEK, which is shorter by a couple of hours than ORD-HKG non-stop. Plus, they would face serious competition from UA who is already well-established on the route and in Asia.

I agree. AA chances on this route are slim and none. UA, flies this route 10x weekly. If I'm correct, it goes double daily later on this year.
 
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RE: CX To Add Frequencies To LHR/JFK/SFO And Others

Thu Mar 01, 2007 8:42 am

Quoting CRJ900 (Reply 4):
I thought LHR was jam packed? Or do they have slots if airlines pay enough?

There are (free) slots available from the allocating company but usually not at peak times. Further improvements in ATC also creates a small number of new slots every year. Whether CX has applied for or is planning to apply for such a slot or whether it is buying a slot pair in the 'second hand' market I do not know.
 
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RE: CX To Add Frequencies To LHR/JFK/SFO And Others

Thu Mar 01, 2007 9:15 am

Quoting AS739X (Reply 10):
The rumor of a second SFO flight has been rumored for ages. This would be a nice site and nice additional boost to SFO. Would this possibly be in response to UAL beefing up SFO-HKG?

Wait, I thought they already have 2 daily flights to SFO? One during the day and the other around midnight?? Reason I say that is coz I've seen a CX 747 sitting at the gate around 10pm and another one arriving in the morning around noon.
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Thu Mar 01, 2007 9:25 am

Quoting Norcal773 (Reply 14):
Wait, I thought they already have 2 daily flights to SFO? One during the day and the other around midnight??

Nope, just the one.

CX872 Departs HKG 430pm, Arrives SFO 1225pm
CX873 Departs SFO 1210am, Arrives HKG 655am+1
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Thu Mar 01, 2007 9:34 am

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 15):
Nope, just the one.

CX872 Departs HKG 430pm, Arrives SFO 1225pm
CX873 Departs SFO 1210am, Arrives HKG 655am+1

Thanx, that explains it. I didn't think they'd park the plane at SFO for that long.
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Thu Mar 01, 2007 9:56 am

The 773 with the plan at the moment will not fly to Europe for quite a few years from now.

The 2nd SFO was not a rumour...it was announced to the public, flight numbers and all, and then withdrawn when we were refused extra flights by the Indian government. The SFo flight would have been fed by Indian traffic so CX felt it was best to put the capacity elsewhere.

The plan at the moment is for the extra capacity afforded by the arrivals of the 77Ws wil beef up services to existing destinations first, and then expand to new destinations later. On their freighter side you may see some new destinations this year.
 
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Thu Mar 01, 2007 10:41 am

Any chance they'll send the 773 to SFO anytime soon? I wanna get on that baby.
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RE: CX To Add Frequencies To LHR/JFK/SFO And Others

Thu Mar 01, 2007 11:05 am

Quoting Norcal773 (Reply 18):
Any chance they'll send the 773 to SFO anytime soon? I wanna get on that baby.

There is an extremely good chance....maybe at the very end of this year or early 08...the plan keeps changing.
 
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RE: CX To Add Frequencies To LHR/JFK/SFO And Others

Thu Mar 01, 2007 11:14 am

How about the 77W's to SYD to boost capacity and to give us some variety from the 333's !!!!

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Thu Mar 01, 2007 4:29 pm

Quoting Jupiter2 (Reply 20):
How about the 77W's to SYD to boost capacity and to give us some variety from the 333's !!!!

Why would you want variety, when you can operate a suingle crew out there?


No one has mentioned the third daily MEL service.
Hasn't CX formally announced it yet??
 
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RE: CX To Add Frequencies To LHR/JFK/SFO And Others

Thu Mar 01, 2007 8:13 pm

Quoting CX flyboy (Reply 17):
we were refused extra flights by the Indian government

OT - but wasn't that due to HKG refusing 5th freedom rights to other Indian carriers (already available to AI, but not to 9W)?
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RE: CX To Add Frequencies To LHR/JFK/SFO And Others

Thu Mar 01, 2007 8:23 pm

Maybe a chance that AMS will get the 744 back instead of the 343?

Would be nice... although there is not really demand for first class on the AMS-HKG route.

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Thu Mar 01, 2007 10:59 pm

Quoting Nimish (Reply 22):
OT - but wasn't that due to HKG refusing 5th freedom rights to other Indian carriers (already available to AI, but not to 9W)?

As far as I know, the two governments cannot agree to give each other equal and fair onwards 5th freedom rights...I bet CX would love BOM-LHR or something!!
 
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RE: CX To Add Frequencies To LHR/JFK/SFO And Others

Thu Mar 01, 2007 11:05 pm

When will NY get another frequency?
Nonstop? Maybe from EWR?
Any chance it will happen by September?
 
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RE: CX To Add Frequencies To LHR/JFK/SFO And Others

Thu Mar 01, 2007 11:24 pm

Quoting Gemini573 (Reply 9):
1 x daily VX

Virgin Atlantic's code is actually VS. But I thought they served HKG 2 x daily anyway? Isn't one to HKG, and one which flies onwards to SYD?
 
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Fri Mar 02, 2007 12:46 am

Quoting 8herveg (Reply 26):
Virgin Atlantic's code is actually VS. But I thought they served HKG 2 x daily anyway? Isn't one to HKG, and one which flies onwards to SYD?

The Hong Kong terminator was cancelled before launch, prior to Oasis and ANZ starting their services.
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RE: CX To Add Frequencies To LHR/JFK/SFO And Others

Fri Mar 02, 2007 12:53 am

Quoting KL911 (Reply 23):
Maybe a chance that AMS will get the 744 back instead of the 343

To be honest, I hope not. IIRC CX is the only a340 operator at AMS, it's good for the variety. Besides, I'm flying AMS-HK-AMS this month, my first in the a343. I've seen enough (mainly KLM) 747's already from the inside and outside
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RE: CX To Add Frequencies To LHR/JFK/SFO And Others

Fri Mar 02, 2007 1:38 am

Quoting AS739X (Reply 10):
The rumor of a second SFO flight has been rumored for ages. This would be a nice site and nice additional boost to SFO. Would this possibly be in response to UAL beefing up SFO-HKG?

Maybe the SFO beef-up will occur when Oasis Hong Kong announces service to OAK, eventually.
 
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RE: CX To Add Frequencies To LHR/JFK/SFO And Others

Fri Mar 02, 2007 3:32 am

Quoting Cloudyapple (Reply 27):
Quoting 8herveg (Reply 26):
Virgin Atlantic's code is actually VS. But I thought they served HKG 2 x daily anyway? Isn't one to HKG, and one which flies onwards to SYD?

The Hong Kong terminator was cancelled before launch, prior to Oasis and ANZ starting their services.

So is it the 1 x daily service which carries onto SYD then?
 
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RE: CX To Add Frequencies To LHR/JFK/SFO And Others

Fri Mar 02, 2007 6:41 am

Quoting 6thfreedom (Reply 21):
Why would you want variety, when you can operate a suingle crew out there?

Well the need to increase capacity maybe better justified by a larger aircraft than by adding an extra flight. Also CX don't really have a single crew to SYD or MEL, there is still the matter of the 747F's down here.

Quoting 8herveg (Reply 30):
So is it the 1 x daily service which carries onto SYD then?

Yes it is.

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RE: CX To Add Frequencies To LHR/JFK/SFO And Others

Fri Mar 02, 2007 6:42 am

Quoting CRJ900 (Reply 4):
I thought LHR was jam packed? Or do they have slots if airlines pay enough?

....just goes to show, when slots are needed, they are available, even if the prices are high and the timings aren't the best..

also, this seems to rule out CX's plan for possibly purchasing the A380...for now at least....

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 7):
Quoting Jimyvr (Thread starter):
Cathay Pacific plans to increase frequencies in 2007, particularly a major increase to London, Paris, Frankfurt, New York, San Francisco.

It's interesting that they're adding service to existing markets without putting some of that extra capacity into Chicago.



Quoting Daron4000 (Reply 11):

I doubt it, AA doesn't have a lot of spare equipment and has a pilot's problem which hindered them from flying DFW-PEK, which is shorter by a couple of hours than ORD-HKG non-stop. Plus, they would face serious competition from UA who is already well-established on the route and in Asia.

Oasis Hong Kong is planning on starting the services (if approved)....granted AA has problems with the pilots union, but it is something which can be solved...as which was needed to be for the other two lenghty flights of PVG and DEL..

AA is a close second to UA at ORD and with codeshare parter CX, it could do very well in HGK...

Quoting DiscoverCSG (Reply 8):
Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 7):
It's interesting that they're adding service to existing markets without putting some of that extra capacity into Chicago.

Purely speculative and largely uninformed conjecture: Could this be a hint that AA will soon start ORD-HKG?

The problem is that AA doesn't have rights to fly to HGK..and though HKG's bilaterals are not part of the current China bilaterals, they are still a bit restrictive....however, if Oasis Hong Kong gets rights to fly to ORD, then I could see AA possibly getting it also......

Quoting CX flyboy (Reply 19):
Quoting Norcal773 (Reply 18):
Any chance they'll send the 773 to SFO anytime soon? I wanna get on that baby.

There is an extremely good chance....maybe at the very end of this year or early 08...the plan keeps changing.

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