FlyVirgin744
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Southwest New Destinations: I Win!

Tue Jul 25, 2000 9:36 am

When the topic "Southwest Airlines Future Destinations" was discussed awhile ago, I said that PBI was a very possible choice, and was the only person with this notion  . Well I have heard from high PBI airport officials that Southwest will be announcing service to PBI by August 15. Sorry if this sounds like bragging, but it feels good to win once in awhile. Hey, here's something cool, I'll be getting to go up into PBI's tower for a couple hours on Thursday!! Do think they'll let me clear a plane for take off?? And also, Finnair will start flying into PBI in the future, that will be the airport's first European airline  ! There is supposely a very high Finnish population here where I'm from. This flight will be done on a 757 with a fueling stop in Maine. I hope more airlines take more of an interest in PBI. Palm Beach County currently has a 1.25M population and I feel is underserved. UA is talking about a nonstop DEN flight, that would be great for me since I love skiing. Well atleast this is exciting for me because I don't see much traffic here. By this time I hope you realize this is more of a PBI topic than anything else, I just want to see this airport get a little attention once in awhile. Oh, and for illiterate airport code people, PBI is West Palm Beach, FL. Thanks for reading!!
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RE: Southwest New Destinations: I Win!

Tue Jul 25, 2000 9:47 am

YEEEEEEEEh, Southwest is going to a new destination, well lets see if American wll get into it agansit Southwest out of Love Field.
 
goingboeing
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RE: Southwest New Destinations: I Win!

Tue Jul 25, 2000 10:54 am

Southwest doesn't serve ORD or LGA or LAX out of Love Field because they are not willing to retrofit their aircraft to 56 seats to fall under the restrictions of the Wright Amendment, which, in case you didn't know, is still in effect. On the routes out of Love that AA did compete on, Southwest pretty much killed them. Austin service went from MD80's to F100's to RJ's operated by Eagle. All aircraft were only about half full on a good day.
 
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RE: Southwest New Destinations: I Win!

Tue Jul 25, 2000 11:17 am

What is PBI?
Pittsburgh?
Get your patchouli stink outta my store!
 
FlyVirgin744
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AerLingus

Tue Jul 25, 2000 11:21 am

As mentioned at the end of the main most, PBI is West Palm Beach, Florida. You should try to visit sometime.  
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AerLingus
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RE: Southwest New Destinations: I Win!

Tue Jul 25, 2000 11:28 am

Sorry I missed the end of that post.
I stopped short of the end.
Get your patchouli stink outta my store!
 
FlyVirgin744
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RE: Southwest New Destinations: I Win!

Tue Jul 25, 2000 11:44 am

I forgive you  
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RE: Southwest New Destinations: I Win!

Tue Jul 25, 2000 7:43 pm

I could have sworn i read in one of the BUF PR's that they said BUF would be the last city for the year 2000. Ill see if i can find the clip.
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goingboeing
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I'll Rain On The PBI Parade

Tue Jul 25, 2000 10:57 pm

With FLL less than 50 miles away, and no presence on the west coast of Florida other than Tampa, I really doubt that PBI will see a Southwest jet unless it diverts due to weather at either MCO or FLL. If Southwest serves any Florida city soon, I believe it will be either Fort Myers or Pensacola. Southwest also tends to keep a lid on annoucements and they expect the airport officials to do likewise. I don't doubt they may have talked to PBI officials, but I'd be willing to bet money that when August 15 rolls around, PBI will not be in the Southwest lexicon.
 
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RE: Southwest New Destinations: I Win!

Tue Jul 25, 2000 11:04 pm

I'm surprised WN doesn't do scheduled service to Pittsburgh. They are there every single day doing charters. The other day I saw two there at once. As for PBI, that would be a good choice. I hope United does start flying to DEN from there. United used to serve Washington Dulles from West Palm.......maybe we will see that again one day.
 
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RE: Southwest New Destinations: I Win!

Tue Jul 25, 2000 11:57 pm

As much as I'd like to see SW at PBI (would help me out for jumpseating purposes), the Aug 15 date doesn't fall into their pattern of new service announcements. Historically, it's several months prior to start of service that new SW cities are announced. Maybe an announcement is due around the 15th. The closeness of PBI to FLL isn't necessarily a disqualification of SW flights there. The incentives are there with terminal facilities/space and short taxi times. Traditionally, low-fare carriers have had mixed results at PBI, Airtran discontinued service some time back and DL Express only very recently announced an increase in service after several years of limited flights to Orlando. Carnival and Spirit's flights have also only had moderate success.
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RE: Southwest New Destinations: I Win!

Wed Jul 26, 2000 12:19 am

Being from the region, I can only predict that PBI could very easily and most probably will be a future FLL. To the surprise (and delight) of all concerned with aviation in Broward county over the last 10 years, FLL has turned itself from a small "spoke" off major hubbs to becoming a large "focus city" of sorts for numerous airlines. It is in the process of a large construction campaign adding a new Terminal One, and retrofitiing Termianals, 2,3, and 4. Several low cost carriers have had fabulous sucess at FLL, Airtran, Midway, Spirit, Delta Express, Metrojet, and Southwest all have strong proiftable operations. New entrant carrier jetBlue has obly been flying for several months, and while it is too early to tell if it has also been a proft center, the airline claims to have gotten better than 70% loads. The only looser in the field was TowerAir who disontinued its FLL-JFK run after filing for bankruptcy in Chapter 11 proceedings.

West Palm Beach, FL has been growing at a similar allbeit more restrained pace than its southern neighbor, but a need for resonable low cost jet service still remains. While a smaller airport than FLL, PBI has room to expand and most definately will be forced to soon. While Palm Beach County has the reputaion for being a playground of the rich and famous (Boca Raton, Palm Beach, Manalapan, and Palm Bach Gardens add to the panache) their is a very visible middle class element just as their is in Broward County. Aircraft noise and traffic congestion has not been a major issue at PBI which will not inhibit growth. Look for the next 5-8 years to see trememndous growth at PBI a la FLL. Airtran, Midway, and JetBlue I predict will start or restart operations there. Southwest may wait for unusally high landing fees to drop somewhat.

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