|Quoting Evan767 (Reply 1):|
Passengers flying JNB-ATL and ATL-JNB on DL are not allowed to deplane in Dakar. Only those passengers traveling ATL-DKR and JNB-DKR are allowed to deplane.
may not allow JNB
passengers to deplane at DKR
but it is a full revenue stop. DL
has local traffic rights on both the ATL
and the DKR
could very well connect passengers at DKR
to other cities in Africa even if they did not have local traffic rights on other segments beyond DKR
since int'l aviation agreements almost all allow an airline to connect its own passengers on its own flights in a foreign city. They keep the DKR
stop to a minimum because most pax are transitting and it reduces their total travel time (and DL
's competitiveness) but DL
has every right to take as much time in DKR
if there is a market for other passengers to transfer there.
However, my gut says that DL
would use a gateway other than DKR
if they developed more flights deeper into Africa from west Africa
|Quoting 2travel2know (Reply 9):|
Do UA still has the Brazil-South Africa 5th rights the airline inherited from Pan Am?
1st, it is not certain that the same rights PA held are still available because treaties change....
2nd, it is not certain whether DL
holds the 5th freedom rights if they do exist. DL
holds most of PA's route authority across the Atlantic except for to LHR
acquired the South America rights. Because this involves both regions, it's possible the 5th freedom authority is not held by either. Since DL
bought its transatlantic routes first, they probably would have taken as much as they could although the answer is theoretical without a route application from either airline to exercise the route... the DOT grants awards only when they are requested.
3rd, unused route authority doesn't remain an airline's to keep if it is not used. the US DOT generally considers a route dormant and available for reassignment to another airline if it is not used. UA
has lost several series of S. American slots to DL
(for Brazil) and to CO
) service because UA
was not using its full allotment. Regardless of who held Brazil - S. Africa authority in 1991, the authority is dormant now and would probably trigger a route case if more than one airline - including those other than DL
- requested authority to use it.