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FlyBe Acquisition Of BA Connect Complete

Mon Mar 05, 2007 5:45 pm

 
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RE: FlyBe Acquisition Of BA Connect Complete

Mon Mar 05, 2007 6:42 pm

Will AMS see more FlyBe's? My kid works for their handling agent  Cool
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RE: FlyBe Acquisition Of BA Connect Complete

Mon Mar 05, 2007 6:47 pm

 Wow! BA Connect MAN-JFK is one of the flights being axed... Maybe we're going to see a VS announcement soon?

For the doubters who must see where I got the info from  Yeah sure
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RE: FlyBe Acquisition Of BA Connect Complete

Mon Mar 05, 2007 7:03 pm

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Quoting Daleaholic (Reply 2):
BA Connect MAN-JFK is one of the flights being axed... Maybe we're going to see a VS announcement soon?

For the doubters who must see where I got the info from

I cannot find such a statement in the link stated.
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RE: FlyBe Acquisition Of BA Connect Complete

Mon Mar 05, 2007 7:21 pm

Quoting TriStar500 (Reply 3):
I cannot find such a statement in the link stated.

Likewise.
I was of the understanding that BA would continue MAN-JFK using LHR crews
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RE: FlyBe Acquisition Of BA Connect Complete

Mon Mar 05, 2007 7:21 pm

Quoting TriStar500 (Reply 3):
I cannot find such a statement in the link stated.

Nor me? BA1503 (MAN-JFK) on 16MAR is looking like this so far. That's a date where other BAcon flights are axed:

Sales Availability at: 5 Mar 2007 10:14:49 GMT
Depart Duration
MAN 7 hrs 45 mins

Cabin Capacity* Available†
Club 24 16
World Traveller Plus 24 14
Traveller 141 34
B767-300ER


Then on 16APR she looks like this:

Sales Availability at: 5 Mar 2007 10:17:41 GMT
Depart Duration
MAN 7 hrs 45 mins

Cabin Capacity* Available†
Club 24 20
World Traveller Plus 24 13
Traveller 141 24
B767-300ER


So who knows yet, it's not doing badly for them if it stays? In other news:

"BA has also confirmed that it is in exclusive talks with Aviance UK, the UK’s largest independent ground handling company, about a transfer of its ground handling operations at Aberdeen, Edinburgh, Glasgow and Manchester airports."

[Edited 2007-03-05 11:23:42]
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RE: FlyBe Acquisition Of BA Connect Complete

Mon Mar 05, 2007 7:24 pm

The MAN-JFK 767 service will continue but using BA Mainline crews. It has not been sold to FlyBe and is definitely not cancelled.
 
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RE: FlyBe Acquisition Of BA Connect Complete

Mon Mar 05, 2007 7:26 pm

Quoting TriStar500 (Reply 3):

I can back Daleaholic up, there was for about 30mins or so (from about 9.25) such a statement but this was later removed. Presumably after a panicked phone call from BA!

(Edited for spelling)

[Edited 2007-03-05 11:28:02]

[Edited 2007-03-05 11:28:23]
 
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RE: FlyBe Acquisition Of BA Connect Complete

Mon Mar 05, 2007 7:46 pm

Quoting BMIE70 (Reply 7):
can back Daleaholic up

Thanks. I think this is another case of the media putting 2 and 2 together and ending up with 5. Sorry about that folks  Wink
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RE: FlyBe Acquisition Of BA Connect Complete

Mon Mar 05, 2007 10:07 pm

Alright, now it will be interesting to see the fleet evolution over the next months.
They said they want to get rid of the ERJ-145s as soon as possible, I wonder how long it will take...
How many new planes (Q400s and ERJ-195s) are Flybe set to receive in 2007?
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RE: FlyBe Acquisition Of BA Connect Complete

Mon Mar 05, 2007 10:09 pm

LGW-INV and LGW-IOM will go to BE now of course but according to BAA website both routes are operating from the North terminal today, does anyone know when they move to the South and are BA still checking in/boarding/meeting the INV and IOM flights now?

Also both routes are still bookable at ba.com and not at flybe.com!
 
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RE: FlyBe Acquisition Of BA Connect Complete

Mon Mar 05, 2007 10:10 pm

Quoting VivaGunners (Reply 9):
How many new planes (Q400s and ERJ-195s) are Flybe set to receive in 2007?

One per month for the next 30 months I think I heard earlier?
 
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RE: FlyBe Acquisition Of BA Connect Complete

Mon Mar 05, 2007 10:16 pm

Quoting Daleaholic (Reply 2):
BA Connect MAN-JFK is one of the flights being axed

this comes from the article for those who haven't read it
BA will keep a number of BA Connect's routes, including the Manchester to New York service that it will run as part of its main operations.
 
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RE: FlyBe Acquisition Of BA Connect Complete

Mon Mar 05, 2007 10:38 pm

The LGW-IOM and LGW-INV routes move to South Terminal from the Summer schedule on 25th March, up till then they remain in North Terminal and operate under current BA flight numbers..
 
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RE: FlyBe Acquisition Of BA Connect Complete

Mon Mar 05, 2007 10:44 pm

Quoting LGW" class=quote target=_blank>LGW (Reply 10):
LGW-INV and LGW-IOM will go to BE now of course but according to BAA website both routes are operating from the North terminal today, does anyone know when they move to the South and are BA still checking in/boarding/meeting the INV and IOM flights now?

BA Connect services from LGW to IOM and INV will continue to operate as normal from the North Terminal until the end of the current winter schedule. When the summer schedule begins (25 March 2007), the routes will be operated by BE from the South Terminal.

Quoting LGW" class=quote target=_blank>LGW (Reply 10):
Also both routes are still bookable at ba.com and not at flybe.com!

When the summer schedule begins, all former BA Connect routes that BE are continuing will have a BA codeshare, and will be available for purchase on both the BA and BE websites.

BE have announced that all of their new routes for this summer, including the former BA Connect routes, will be available for purchase on their website tomorrow.

Quoting Lamedianaranja (Reply 1):
Will AMS see more FlyBe's?

I don't think BA Connect operate to AMS do they?
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RE: FlyBe Acquisition Of BA Connect Complete

Mon Mar 05, 2007 11:08 pm

Quoting Sam1987 (Reply 14):
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BE have announced that all of their new routes for this summer, including the former BA Connect routes, will be available for purchase on their website tomorrow.

They sent me an Email (as a pre-existing BA Connect customer) telling me how they'd be "slashing" fares on ex-BA routes. The route I fly most often is BHX-STR and usually pay BA of the order of £75-£90 (inc taxes). BE's new "slashed" lowest fares are £49.99 each way inc taxes - that sounds to me like an increase!

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RE: FlyBe Acquisition Of BA Connect Complete

Mon Mar 05, 2007 11:28 pm

Quoting Eurohub (Reply 15):
They sent me an Email (as a pre-existing BA Connect customer) telling me how they'd be "slashing" fares on ex-BA routes. The route I fly most often is BHX-STR and usually pay BA of the order of £75-£90 (inc taxes). BE's new "slashed" lowest fares are £49.99 each way inc taxes - that sounds to me like an increase!

Yup, similar story on ABZ - BHX (on the whole, although there are some a little cheaper). They're also dropping ABZ - MAN apparently. This is bad news, without BA and BMI keeping each other reasonable I suspect fares will rocket on this route.

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RE: FlyBe Acquisition Of BA Connect Complete

Mon Mar 05, 2007 11:31 pm

I couldm't get my head round the Executive Club bit in the email, as I understand it, yes you can contine earning BA Miles on NE flights, but only redeem them on proper BA flights?! Right?
 
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RE: FlyBe Acquisition Of BA Connect Complete

Tue Mar 06, 2007 2:07 am

I think that given British Airways' total retrenchment from the regions with the exception of flights to London (LHR, LGW and LCY) would it not make sense for BA to use their 15% shareholding in flybe to market a regional network? BA benefit from looking like they still have a regional network, but having this outsourced to an airline that can do this profitably and independently of Waterside. Flybe benefit from people who may not otherwise have heard of their brand (ie people from oneworld alliance countries) being booked on their flights thanks to the British Airways connection. Finally, BA Executive Club passengers would remain loyal to BA if they could continue to earn/spend miles on flybe, plus benefiting from the flybe lounges and Economy Plus services.
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RE: FlyBe Acquisition Of BA Connect Complete

Tue Mar 06, 2007 2:21 am

I work for Swissport at MAN, and we currently handle FlyBe, we are just waiting to see if we will keep the contract or it will go over to BA handling which currently handle BA Mainline and BA Connect, FlyBe are to move over to T3 too.

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RE: FlyBe Acquisition Of BA Connect Complete

Tue Mar 06, 2007 2:23 am

Have to say I would have been really pissed at BA had they ended the JFK flight from MAN, i love seeing the 763 @ MAN, and plan to use that service regularly in the future.
 
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RE: FlyBe Acquisition Of BA Connect Complete

Tue Mar 06, 2007 2:44 am

Quoting Jetset7E7 (Reply 19):
I work for Swissport at MAN, and we currently handle FlyBe, we are just waiting to see if we will keep the contract or it will go over to BA handling which currently handle BA Mainline and BA Connect, FlyBe are to move over to T3 too.

Mark, I think this thread might prove interesting reading on that subject BA To Outsource Ground Handling In UK Regions (by Britair Mar 5 2007 in Civil Aviation)

Quoting Lite (Reply 18):
BA to use their 15% shareholding in flybe to market a regional network? BA benefit from looking like they still have a regional network, but having this outsourced to an airline that can do this profitably and independently of Waterside

My opinion, for what its worth, will be that BA will just sit back and watch the easy profit roll in from BE's dividends - for the immediate future BA will codeshare on BE routes that were previously BA Connect but that probably won't last beyond this summer's timetable ultimately leaving BE as just another company that BA has some shares in.
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RE: FlyBe Acquisition Of BA Connect Complete

Tue Mar 06, 2007 2:46 am

Quoting Eurohub (Reply 21):
My opinion, for what its worth, will be that BA will just sit back and watch the easy profit roll in from BE's dividends - for the immediate future BA will codeshare on BE routes that were previously BA Connect but that probably won't last beyond this summer's timetable ultimately leaving BE as just another company that BA has some shares in

Although I agree this might happen, it would be really clever of BA to actually use this shareholding, and would probably be good for BE, especially connecting PAX @ MAN.
 
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RE: FlyBe Acquisition Of BA Connect Complete

Tue Mar 06, 2007 4:50 am

Quoting Eurohub (Reply 21):
Mark, I think this thread might prove interesting reading on that subject BA To Outsource Ground Handling In UK Regions (by Britair Mar 5 2007 in Civil Aviation)

Thanks Eurohub a good read...

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RE: FlyBe Acquisition Of BA Connect Complete

Tue Mar 06, 2007 5:15 am

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6419307.stm

A good article by Simon Calder explaining exactly what routes are to be cancelled and the implications.
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RE: FlyBe Acquisition Of BA Connect Complete

Tue Mar 06, 2007 6:17 am

I have a flight booked with BACON between Birmingham and Edinburgh in April. I rang BA to fn out what would be happening and she hadn't got a clue.

What inrterests me though is that I think we will be flying on a FLYBE plane but paying the BA price which is about 40quid more.

Does anyone have any clue what we will be flying on and which teminal at BHX we will be using?
 
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RE: FlyBe Acquisition Of BA Connect Complete

Tue Mar 06, 2007 7:32 am

My understanding is that the airline will come under the flybe brand and service levels from the beginning of the summer season, March 25 this year I believe, and at Birmingham the merged airline will be operating out of Terminal 2 with flights handled by Swissport UK.
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RE: FlyBe Acquisition Of BA Connect Complete

Tue Mar 06, 2007 3:03 pm

What about leisure BA Connect services out of MAN ???

For example PFO opearated by GB Airways. Are those services affected or will operate as normal ?
 
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RE: FlyBe Acquisition Of BA Connect Complete

Tue Mar 06, 2007 3:51 pm

Quoting LGW" class=quote target=_blank>LGW (Reply 10):
LGW-INV and LGW-IOM will go to BE now of course but according to BAA website both routes are operating from the North terminal today, does anyone know when they move to the South and are BA still checking in/boarding/meeting the INV and IOM flights now?

As far as I can tell, until 25th March BA Connect will operate as a separate entity, albeit under Flybe conttrol. After that date these routes will operate on a codeshare basis with both a BA and BE flight number. This will go on until March 2008 when they will revert to a wholly BE flight number. This is assuming the routes are kept on. We on the Island are extremely sceptical! This applies to the whole BA Connect system (at least the routes that are not axed anyway!)

We (the workforce) have been told that from 25th March BA Connect flights out of LGW will operate from South Terminal. Another pain in the a**e!

For those that are interested, the IOM base will not function after August, and probably sooner as the workforce ups sticks and leaves for other jobs. Our brief yesterday made it clear that Flybe, although they want to sell the place as a going concern, will not stand in anyones way if they want voluntary redundancy. Personally I'll be applying for mine as soon as my "at risk" letter turns up.

A rather uncertain and unpleasant time for all of the BA Connect workforce and a worrying situation for the bulk of BA ground staff in the regions and at LGW. Where will the next axe fall?

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RE: FlyBe Acquisition Of BA Connect Complete

Tue Mar 06, 2007 4:24 pm

Does it mean than that BACON will still be flying their services still and FLYBE operatng theirs from Birmingham, or are BACON cancelling theirs and transfering all to FLYBE?

I have still not heard anything from BA about the situation and what is happening with my flights. Anyone offer any help?

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RE: FlyBe Acquisition Of BA Connect Complete

Tue Mar 06, 2007 8:55 pm

They'll all be codesharing anyway!
 
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RE: FlyBe Acquisition Of BA Connect Complete

Tue Mar 06, 2007 9:12 pm

I'm flying ABZ-BHX this Friday, returning Saturday. According to the BA website, the flight is confirmed. Have I been boned like haddock too?

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RE: FlyBe Acquisition Of BA Connect Complete

Mon Mar 19, 2007 3:10 am

Anyone know if BE are going to repaint the former BACon Embraers, Dashes and 146s in to BE scheme or save money and leave them with the BA tails?
 
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RE: FlyBe Acquisition Of BA Connect Complete

Mon Mar 19, 2007 6:44 am

I'd imagine that given the BA Connect aircraft are only going to be in the fleet for two years at most, according to the optimistic flybe website, that the aircraft will probably keep the blue BA bellies, but have the tails painted white and all BA/oneworld marking etched out with huge flybe.com stickers down the side instead.

Is the deal with British Airways and aviance UK now complete for ground handling in the regions? There were some rumours going around that aviance were also approaching bmi with a similar package deal.
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RE: FlyBe Acquisition Of BA Connect Complete

Wed Mar 21, 2007 6:53 pm

I was working on Monday at BHD, I'm usually only in on the weekends so it was my first weekday shift from BEConnect happened at the start of the month. We had 5 or 6 BA E145's in operating as BE MAN and BHX flights, as well as BA MAN flights. AFAIK the pax due to go on BA's last MAN were transfered to BE's and the BA went out empty.

Some of us were perplexed by this as we only glance at the stand numbers and not the aircraft reg's. Then it kept happening. I actually quite like the E145's. Better than BE's E195's. I can stand up in a 145 hold, but the 195 is too low and the lights are hard to find. It was nice seeing the E145's in, BA only sent them once in a blue moon - we always got Q300's.

I think the takeover just needs time and it'll all be fine. BE I find are fine when I travel and with a little influence from the BA crews it can be made better. A little turbulence now, with the cancelling of flights is a small price to pay for one strong regional carrier in the years to come.
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RE: FlyBe Acquisition Of BA Connect Complete

Thu Mar 22, 2007 12:29 am

Quoting Cjbmibe (Reply 34):
We had 5 or 6 BA E145's in operating as BE MAN

Flybe flights on Monday were all operated by BE aircraft:

BE181/182 DH4 G-JEDW
BE183/184 DH4 G-JECP
BE179/180 DH4 G-JECP
BE185/186 DH4 G-JEDI
BE187/188 DH4 G-JEDI

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RE: FlyBe Acquisition Of BA Connect Complete

Thu Mar 22, 2007 3:27 am

Does anyone know if BE are to operate Dash aircraf on any of the following:

MAN - CDG
MAN - FRA
MAN - BRU
MAN - HAJ
MAN - MXP?
 
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RE: FlyBe Acquisition Of BA Connect Complete

Thu Mar 22, 2007 5:52 am

CDG ERJ 145
FRA ERJ145
BRU ERJ145
HAJ ERJ145
MXP ERJ145

All down as ERJ's to my knowledge, DH4's operate to

BHD,EXT,SOU,NWI,EGC,GCI,GLA with some changing on different days
 
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RE: FlyBe Acquisition Of BA Connect Complete

Thu Mar 22, 2007 6:11 am

So are the 146s leaving MAN straightaway?
 
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RE: FlyBe Acquisition Of BA Connect Complete

Thu Mar 22, 2007 6:33 pm

Some BRU and CDG flights are showing 143 as equipment in Amadeus, also some of the new La Rochelle and Limoges flights, not sure if this is a Flybe. or ex-BACon aircraft though, thought all BACon 146s would leave the fleet this week.
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RE: FlyBe Acquisition Of BA Connect Complete

Thu Mar 22, 2007 7:49 pm

BACon and before that BACiti always used 146s on the MAN - BRU route I assume because they used to carry a fair few extra business class pax on that route (MEPs and their cling-ons etc).

Out of interest, how many seats on a BE aircraft are designated 'Economy Plus'?
 
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RE: FlyBe Acquisition Of BA Connect Complete

Fri Mar 23, 2007 6:22 am

Flybe's Economy Plus offers an upgraded experience on the ground but no additional benefits in the air, except complimentary drink/catering/hold luggage and seat selection.

It's the same seat as everyone else, just with Business Lounge access and check-in on the ground.
 
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RE: FlyBe Acquisition Of BA Connect Complete

Fri Mar 23, 2007 7:07 am

OK, with the Open Skies developments, how long before BA realise they've closed down a significant part of their customer base, especially regional premium clients, and FlyBe becomes a franchise, a la GT, and we see FlyBe in BA colours...?

Believe me, this has been muttered, and not behind closed doors...

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RE: FlyBe Acquisition Of BA Connect Complete

Fri Mar 23, 2007 7:13 am

Quoting BlueShamu330s (Reply 43):
OK, with the Open Skies developments, how long before BA realise they've closed down a significant part of their customer base, especially regional premium clients, and FlyBe becomes a franchise, a la GT, and we see FlyBe in BA colours...?

On the plus side flybe can keep their financial and operational independence but benefit from British Airways backing, loyal BA Executive Club passengers and maybe oneworld benefits. I do think closer co-operation is important, if not inevitable, between flybe and BA to ensure BA still have a presence in the regions, but think flybe ought to keep some independence including their brand.
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RE: FlyBe Acquisition Of BA Connect Complete

Fri Mar 23, 2007 7:26 am

Quoting Lite (Reply 44):
On the plus side flybe can keep their financial and operational independence but benefit from British Airways backing, loyal BA Executive Club passengers and maybe oneworld benefits. I do think closer co-operation is important, if not inevitable, between flybe and BA to ensure BA still have a presence in the regions, but think flybe ought to keep some independence including their brand

Agreed 100%. I'm not sure if it reflects bad timing or downright stupidity that BA chose to dispense of BACon when they did, knowing Open SKies were inevitable. I know for a fact that one "regional" company, once a totally loyal BA affiliate, dropped BA ex MAN and NCL for other European carriers very recently over the decision to dump BACon.

Can BA afford to dump the UK's regions and rely on the carrot of being permitted to operate to the US from outside of the UK? That advantage, I believe, belongs to Virgin, as it could very successfully trade on its name and its reputation rather than its flag of origin.

BA are going to have to work hard to maintian market share, and after recent developments, I wonder what avenues it has.

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RE: FlyBe Acquisition Of BA Connect Complete

Mon Mar 26, 2007 6:11 pm

I was working on bmi last monday and I only saw the aircraft arriving - I wasnt dealing with them. I took it that they were from BHX and MAN, but I stand corrected that they did not come from MAN for BE, although there were more BA planes than just BA MAN and BE BHX.

On another note, we had an ex Brymon Dash3 night stopping on Saturday, with only a blue belly - no tail details. It was due to go at 3.05 as BE GWY. Apparently the captain was having a hissy fit about working for BE and going to GWY. It didnt head out until about 4.30 as far as I'm aware. The cabin crew were still in BA uniform.
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RE: FlyBe Acquisition Of BA Connect Complete

Mon Mar 26, 2007 9:07 pm

Quoting Cjbmibe (Reply 45):
On another note, we had an ex Brymon Dash3 night stopping on Saturday, with only a blue belly - no tail details. It was due to go at 3.05 as BE GWY. Apparently the captain was having a hissy fit about working for BE and going to GWY. It didnt head out until about 4.30 as far as I'm aware. The cabin crew were still in BA uniform.

This is G-BRYV its been operating in a white livery for the past week or so.

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