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2006 Busiest Airports In The World

Fri Mar 09, 2007 3:00 am

The 2006 Busiest Airport in the world numbers are out.

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GENEVA (AP) — Atlanta's Hartsfield International held its ranking as the world's busiest passenger airport in 2006, followed by Chicago's O'Hare and London's Heathrow, according to preliminary figures released this week.
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Filling out the top 10 were Tokyo's Haneda Airport, with 65.2 million; Los Angeles International Airport, 61 million; Dallas-Fort Worth International Airport, 60 million; Paris Charles de Gaulle, 56.8 million; Frankfurt Airport, 52.8 million; Beijing Capital International Airport, 48.5 million; and Denver International Airport, 47.3 million.

Denver passed Las Vegas to regain the number 5 (domestic) and 10 (international) positions despite the airport being shut down repeatedly in December due to several large snow storms. Also total capacity at American airports dropped last year due to restructures at NW at DL. (Yes, less capacity is a important reason why carriers are making money).
 
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Fri Mar 09, 2007 3:03 am

Quoting AirFrnt (Thread starter):
Paris Charles de Gaulle, 56.8 million; Frankfurt

It´s incredible how CDG overtook FRA , just because of some people living near the airport , not allowing a new runway , it makes me so angry  Angry
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Fri Mar 09, 2007 8:23 am

Full top 30 list, from ACI:
TOTAL PASSENGER TRAFFIC 2006
Rank Airport Passengers % change
1 ATL 84 846 639 (1.2)
2 ORD 76 248 911 (0.3)
3 LHR 67 530 223 (0.6)
4 HND 65 225 795 3.0
5 LAX 61 048 552 (0.7)
6 DFW 60 079 107 1.3
7 CDG 56 808 967 5.6
8 FRA 52 810 683 1.1
9 PEK 48 501 102 18.3
10 DEN 47 324 844 9.1
11 LAS 46 194 882 4.3
12 AMS 46 088 221 4.4
13 MAD 45 500 469 8.1
14 HKG 44 020 000 9.1
15 BKK 42 799 532 9.8
16 IAH 42 628 663 7.4
17 JFK 42 604 975 4.2
18 PHX 41 439 819 0.5
19 DTW 36 356 446 (0.0)
20 MSP 35 633 020 (3.9)
21 EWR 35 494 863 7.4
22 SIN 35 033 083 8.0
23 MCO 34 818 264 2.1
24 LGW 34 172 489 4.2
25 SFO 33 527 236 0.4
26 MIA 32 533 974 4.9
27 NRT 31 824 411 1.2
28 PHL 31 766 537 0.9
29 YYZ 30 966 483 3.5
30 CGK 30 863 806 10.4

/Brian
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RE: 2006 Busiest Airports In The World

Fri Mar 09, 2007 9:41 am

Quoting Briboy (Reply 2):
16 IAH 42 628 663 7.4



Quoting Briboy (Reply 2):
21 EWR 35 494 863 7.4

WOW!!! What is going on with these airports? Both had a 7.4% increase in passengers. Did CO really add more flights or is another airline responsible for this?

If it is because of CO, it looks like their hubs are growing compared to the other Legacy carriers.

[Edited 2007-03-09 01:42:34]
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Fri Mar 09, 2007 10:14 am

Quoting LHStarAlliance (Reply 1):
It´s incredible how CDG overtook FRA , just because of some people living near the airport , not allowing a new runway , it makes me so angry

Are you sure that is the reason? After all with just one runway:

Quoting Briboy (Reply 2):
24 LGW 34 172 489 4.2

overtook

Quoting Briboy (Reply 2):
25 SFO 33 527 236 0.4

and also handled 64.7 per cent of the FRA traffic on its single runway.
 
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Fri Mar 09, 2007 10:54 am

Quoting AirFrnt (Thread starter):
(Yes, less capacity is a important reason why carriers are making money).

Oh really? The legacies cut 20% across the board after 9/11 and look what happened then.

Quoting VV701 (Reply 4):
Are you sure that is the reason? After all with just one runway:

The vast majority of LGW's traffic is widebody and large capacity narrowbody. There are exceptions, but LGW's operational efficiency benefits massively from that.
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Fri Mar 09, 2007 9:16 pm

Quoting Briboy (Reply 2):
1 ATL 84 846 639 (1.2)
2 ORD 76 248 911 (0.3)
3 LHR 67 530 223 (0.6)

So once Terminal 5 opens at Heathrow, will it overtake Chicago and Atlanta? Isn't it supposed to reach around 90m passengers p.a.? But when by though?
 
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Fri Mar 09, 2007 9:35 pm

Heathrow's growth is significantly constrained by the runway capacity.

Although when T5 opens LHR COULD handle 90m pax, I sincerly doubt that is possible without the 3rd runway, even if mixed mode operations come into force.

However, I do think T5 will boost passenger numbers at LHR, but not enough to beat ORD and ATL me thinks.

I hope they build runway 3 soon, because LHR is losing out to competition from Europe, as seen from CDG and AMS's steady growth, and Heathrow's poor growth.

[Edited 2007-03-09 13:38:10]
 
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RE: 2006 Busiest Airports In The World

Fri Mar 09, 2007 9:40 pm

Quoting VV701 (Reply 4):
Are you sure that is the reason? After all with just one runway:

See all LH flights (intercont) that are going out of MUC if the runway would have been some years ago all this flights would be over FRA ...  Smile
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Fri Mar 09, 2007 10:06 pm

Quoting HUYguy (Reply 7):
Although when T5 opens LHR COULD handle 90m pax, I sincerly doubt that is possible without the 3rd runway, even if mixed mode operations come into force.

I don't understand how BAA came to the figure of 90m. Currently it handles 67m. If T5 will handle 30m, surely this would mean Heathrow COULD handle 97m per year?
 
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RE: 2006 Busiest Airports In The World

Fri Mar 09, 2007 10:27 pm

Quoting 8herveg (Reply 6):
So once Terminal 5 opens at Heathrow, will it overtake Chicago and Atlanta? Isn't it supposed to reach around 90m passengers p.a.? But when by though?

Not until they get more runways. That is why US airports like ATL, ORD, LAX & DFW lead everyone.
 
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Fri Mar 09, 2007 10:36 pm

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 10):
Not until they get more runways. That is why US airports like ATL, ORD, LAX & DFW lead everyone.

I see. Well I really do hope Heathrow does get a new runway! It needs it in order to have the world-class status!
 
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RE: 2006 Busiest Airports In The World

Fri Mar 09, 2007 10:36 pm

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 10):
Not until they get more runways. That is why US airports like ATL, ORD, LAX & DFW lead everyone

And, it's a function of the large amount of connecting traffic over the hub.

Anyone know what % of traffic at the top airports is transfer / connecting traffic? I would imagine at ORD and ATL it's higher as a percentage than, say, at LAX...?

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RE: 2006 Busiest Airports In The World

Fri Mar 09, 2007 10:53 pm

Quoting Briboy (Reply 2):
3 LHR 67 530 223 (0.6)
4 HND 65 225 795 3.0

Shows that LHR needs T-5, without it they'd be bound to lose #3 to a(n almost) domestic-only airport. Now, wheter LHR will pass ATL and ORD remains to be seen. Obviously, it will take a few years before LHR could reach the 90-million mark, and by that point in time ATL will have a new international terminal, and perhaps also the South Terminal, which combined should allow for some 10-15 million more pax. Of course, that's looking many years into the future, and we all know that especially in aviation things can change rather abruptly.
 
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Fri Mar 09, 2007 10:57 pm

It seems that LAS is the busiest airport that people travel to by ground. And not just through.
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RE: 2006 Busiest Airports In The World

Fri Mar 09, 2007 11:01 pm

Quoting 8herveg (Reply 9):
I don't understand how BAA came to the figure of 90m. Currently it handles 67m. If T5 will handle 30m, surely this would mean Heathrow COULD handle 97m per year?

Maybe that will be the case eventually - but as soon as T5 is up and running they want to demolish T2 and start again there so we're looking at 2015 before all of the building work is done.
 
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Fri Mar 09, 2007 11:09 pm

Quoting Scouseflyer (Reply 15):
so we're looking at 2015 before all of the building work is done.

2011-12 actually. They want to have Heathrow East done in time for the London 2012 Olympics. The majority of the infrastructure is there because of the current T1 and T2. It is literally the terminal building which needs to be replaced.
 
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RE: 2006 Busiest Airports In The World

Fri Mar 09, 2007 11:47 pm

Quoting 8herveg (Reply 6):

So once Terminal 5 opens at Heathrow, will it overtake Chicago and Atlanta? Isn't it supposed to reach around 90m passengers p.a.? But when by though?

I think that the advent of a US-EU Opensky agreement will seriously restrict the future growth of LHR, as secondary markets become much easier to access.
 
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Sat Mar 10, 2007 12:13 am

Quoting AirFrnt (Reply 17):
I think that the advent of a US-EU Opensky agreement will seriously restrict the future growth of LHR, as secondary markets become much easier to access.

I would have thought it might have the opposite impact in the fact that BA and VS in particular have large long-haul operations to the US from LGW, and I'd put my money on them moving them across to LHR (assuming Bermuda II is thrown out in an open skies deal).

Maybe it wouldn't be a sudden change, but as and when slots become available at LHR they'll move them over. Also, DL, NW, US and CO would want to move their services across I presume.
 
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Sat Mar 10, 2007 12:23 am

And Memphis remains the #1 cargo airport in the world based on tonnage - from the Memphis Commercial Appeal:

"For the 15th consecutive year, Memphis International Airport was named the world's busiest airport for cargo, handling 4.08 million tons. Hong Kong International Airport was second with 3.97 million tons. Ted Stevens Anchorage International Airport in Alaska was third with 3.09 million tons."

Looks like HKG is closing in fast, though.

http://www.commercialappeal.com/mca/...cle/0,1426,MCA_441_5404395,00.html
 
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Sat Mar 10, 2007 1:04 am

Quoting AirFrnt (Reply 17):
I think that the advent of a US-EU Opensky agreement will seriously restrict the future growth of LHR, as secondary markets become much easier to access.

I'd say it'd have the exact opposite effect... as many airlines that are just dying to offer LHR-USA services will then be able to do so (factoring slots into account however) at the expense of other UK and even mainland airports.

Also, there are few such EU 2ndary markets that international carriers want to op to that they statutorily cannot at this point.
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Sat Mar 10, 2007 1:11 am

Quoting HUYguy (Reply 7):
I hope they build runway 3 soon, because LHR is losing out to competition from Europe, as seen from CDG and AMS's steady growth, and Heathrow's poor growth.

Comparing 2000 with 2006, using the ACI data:
CDG 17.8% growth
AMS 16.4% growth
FRA 6.9% growth
LHR 4.5% growth

The combined effects of Bermuda II and unwillingness to improve infrastructure have a cost.
 
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Sat Mar 10, 2007 1:15 am

Quoting Briboy (Reply 2):
9 PEK 48 501 102 18.3

Surprised nobody has mentioned this. This is VERY strong growth. Extrapolate that growth out over the next 5-10 years and PEK will be in the top 5 easily. Could well be the world's busiest airport. And IIRC they are currently in the middle of a major expansion project to get ready for the 2008 Olympics and beyond.
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Sat Mar 10, 2007 1:56 am

Quoting LHStarAlliance (Reply 1):
It´s incredible how CDG overtook FRA , just because of some people living near the airport , not allowing a new runway , it makes me so angry

It's a popular french sentiment as well, not solely german.

Quoting VV701 (Reply 4):
Are you sure that is the reason? After all with just one runway:

One runway makes a HUUUGE load of difference. Some airports operate with ONLY one.
 
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RE: 2006 Busiest Airports In The World

Sat Mar 10, 2007 3:23 am

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 13):
Shows that LHR needs T-5, without it they'd be bound to lose #3 to a(n almost) domestic-only airport. Now, wheter LHR will pass ATL and ORD remains to be seen.

You do realize that ORD is in a clusterf**ck right now and will have 6 parallel runways in a few years. Wait till they are done re-arranging the runways and probably build that West Terminal.
 
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RE: 2006 Busiest Airports In The World

Sat Mar 10, 2007 3:30 am

Quoting DesertJets (Reply 22):
Could well be the world's busiest airport.

Could be, but likely won't.

Taking historical industry precedent into account:
with the kind of O&D BJS can generate plus the nature of the authority its government wields, they're likely to build a third (or more) airport long before PEK reaches the level of traffic that would challenge Atlanta.
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Sat Mar 10, 2007 3:31 am

Quoting MasseyBrown (Reply 21):
FRA 6.9% growth
LHR 4.5% growth

Two airports that need urgently expansion ...
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RE: 2006 Busiest Airports In The World

Sat Mar 10, 2007 3:53 am

Check out DEN's growth... +9.1%, making it the fastest growing USA airport in the top 30. I imagine this is due to the "Southwest Effect"? Their re-entry into the market has stimulated traffic for all carriers there (F9, UA, etc), no doubt.  Smile
 
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RE: 2006 Busiest Airports In The World

Sat Mar 10, 2007 2:35 pm

Quoting 8herveg (Reply 11):
Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 10):
Not until they get more runways. That is why US airports like ATL, ORD, LAX & DFW lead everyone.

I see. Well I really do hope Heathrow does get a new runway! It needs it in order to have the world-class status!

I said nothing about LHR not being a world class airport. You can have 500 gates at 10 terminals at LHR, and they don't mean a thing if you do not have the capacity to bring airplanes to them. When you expand the number of gates, you need more concrete for airplanes to use, or measure your delays in days, instead of hours.

Quoting Airways45 (Reply 12):
And, it's a function of the large amount of connecting traffic over the hub.

Anyone know what % of traffic at the top airports is transfer / connecting traffic? I would imagine at ORD and ATL it's higher as a percentage than, say, at LAX...?

Actually, ATL and ORD have the highest O&D percentages of any airports in the world. I believe LAX is around #6 or #7.
 
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Sat Mar 10, 2007 3:25 pm

It would not suprise me if PEK overtakes CDG and FRA in 2007 and then in 2008 come close to if not overtake DFW and LAX judging by its 18% growth year on year.
 
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Sat Mar 10, 2007 5:36 pm

I guess HND over took DFW when DL eliminated the hub there.
Unless LHR builds another runway, HND will definitely overtake LHR when the fourth runway opens but may lose out to PEK around the same time.

Quoting ConcordeBoy (Reply 25):
Taking historical industry precedent into account:
with the kind of O&D BJS can generate plus the nature of the authority its government wields, they're likely to build a third (or more) airport long before PEK reaches the level of traffic that would challenge Atlanta.

I didn't know PEK had a second airport?

Quoting Aussie747 (Reply 29):
It would not suprise me if PEK overtakes CDG and FRA in 2007 and then in 2008 come close to if not overtake DFW and LAX judging by its 18% growth year on year.

Growth will be close to 18% on top of 2007 numbers figuring the Olympic traffic.
The third runway should be operational soon.
 
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RE: 2006 Busiest Airports In The World

Sat Mar 10, 2007 7:35 pm

Quoting Aussie747 (Reply 29):
It would not suprise me if PEK overtakes CDG and FRA in 2007 and then in 2008 come close to if not overtake DFW and LAX judging by its 18% growth year on year.

Doesn't China have the Olympics soon?
 
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Sat Mar 10, 2007 7:37 pm

Quoting LHStarAlliance (Reply 1):
It´s incredible how CDG overtook FRA , just because of some people living near the airport , not allowing a new runway , it makes me so angry

That's quite a narrow sighted statement. I'm sure the average household living close to the airport wouldn't be too happy with the extra noise and environmental pollution an extra runway would bring due to potentially more aircraft movements.

Although we're all aviation enthusiasts here, sometimes we need to consider things from other perspectives.
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RE: 2006 Busiest Airports In The World

Sat Mar 10, 2007 7:38 pm

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 28):
I said nothing about LHR not being a world class airport.

I know you didn't. I said it! I was talking about the airport itself. Too small, crowded, old etc
 
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Sat Mar 10, 2007 7:48 pm

Quoting SkyGazer (Reply 32):
That's quite a narrow sighted statement. I'm sure the average household living close to the airport wouldn't be too happy with the extra noise and environmental pollution an extra runway would bring due to potentially more aircraft movements.

If they don't like the aircraft, why do they live there?
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Sat Mar 10, 2007 8:05 pm

Quoting Flyorski (Reply 34):

If they don't like the aircraft, why do they live there?

That's beyond the point. What makes you think that the people who live there can afford to live somewhere else, or that its convenient for them to live somewhere else, for whatever reason?
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Sat Mar 10, 2007 8:07 pm

Quoting SkyGazer (Reply 32):
That's quite a narrow sighted statement. I'm sure the average household living close to the airport wouldn't be too happy with the extra noise and environmental pollution an extra runway would bring due to potentially more aircraft movements.

The Airport has priority ...
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Sat Mar 10, 2007 8:11 pm

Quoting LHStarAlliance (Reply 36):
The Airport has priority ...

That's a joke of a statement. By your logic, the local government should prepare to free land next to your house for a rubbish tip, because it is a "priority" and it needs to provide a service to the people.

Obviously, with airports, its a different issue, as airports facilitate growth in an economy, but when an airport is near a residential zone, compromises need to be made.
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RE: 2006 Busiest Airports In The World

Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:23 pm

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 28):
Actually, ATL and ORD have the highest O&D percentages of any airports in the world.

Common sense should tell you that that's not only an inaccurate, but a pointless measure. What use would there be taking percentage into account, when dozens upon dozens of airports in this country alone are 99.999% O&D or higher?

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 28):
I believe LAX is around #6 or #7.

Not even close... LAX has long been the USA's (and perhaps the world's, I'll have to check on that) busiest O&D airport. And since it handles less pax than both ATL and ORD, the math shouldn't be that difficult when comparing the three of them

Quoting Carpethead (Reply 30):
I guess HND over took DFW when DL eliminated the hub there.

No, HND and LHR overtook that airport in 2002; years before DL pulled their hub.

Quoting Carpethead (Reply 30):
I didn't know PEK had a second airport?

Has plenty, but the one I'm specifically referring to is NAY.
I realize that the IATA doesn't (yet) group it into the BJS metro fold, however it does receive limited pax service and there's long been talk of expanding it should PEK find itself in a pinch before the construction of another dedicated pax field.

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 31):
Doesn't China have the Olympics soon?

Next summer









[Edited 2007-03-10 15:31:59]
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Sun Mar 11, 2007 12:31 am

SUPRISE SURPRISE! No Dubai (yet)!!!

Dubai handled 28.8m pax in 2006 - growth of 16.2% over 2005!!!

At that rate it'll in the top 30 (my prediction no.26) next year and top 20 (my prediction no.18) the year after! (Based on A388s being delivered to Emirates on time!)
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RE: 2006 Busiest Airports In The World

Sun Mar 11, 2007 12:43 am

Quoting Briboy (Reply 2):
Full top 30 list, from ACI:
TOTAL PASSENGER TRAFFIC 2006
Rank Airport Passengers % change

Interesting, in 2006 passenger traffic...

- 16 of the top 30 busiest airports are in the USA.
- 7 of the top 30 busiest airports are in ASIA
- 6 of the top 30 busiest airports are in EUROPE
- 1 is in CANADA

Also interesting, 5 of the 16 top US airports actually decreased passenger volume in 2006.
 
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Sun Mar 11, 2007 12:49 am

Quoting SkyGazer (Reply 37):
By your logic, the local government should prepare to free land next to your house for a rubbish tip, because it is a "priority" and it needs to provide a service to the people.

Precisely. "Rubbish tips" - which also facilitate growth in the economy - and airports have to go somewhere and are greater contributors to the common good than I am. If the government offered me fair value for my property, I'd move out tomorrow.

I even attended one public hearing and offered my property for a freeway. Alas, I hear no bulldozers.
 
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Sun Mar 11, 2007 1:40 am

Hong Kong Historical Growth

Put together from figures published by AAHK.

http://www.cloudyapple.com/images/hkaa_figures.png

That dip is because of SARS. As you can see, it has had no long term effect on traffic.

[Edited 2007-03-10 17:46:45]
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RE: 2006 Busiest Airports In The World

Sun Mar 11, 2007 2:15 am

Quoting 8herveg (Reply 9):
I don't understand how BAA came to the figure of 90m. Currently it handles 67m. If T5 will handle 30m, surely this would mean Heathrow COULD handle 97m per year?

But T3 i doomed to closure whether or not Heathrow East goes ahead.

Quoting ConcordeBoy (Reply 20):
Quoting AirFrnt (Reply 17):
I think that the advent of a US-EU Opensky agreement will seriously restrict the future growth of LHR, as secondary markets become much easier to access.

I'd say it'd have the exact opposite effect... as many airlines that are just dying to offer LHR-USA services will then be able to do so (factoring slots into account however) at the expense of other UK and even mainland airports.

I agree. Bermuda 2 effectively is an Open Skies agreement with the exception of LHR and LGW. It allows any US airline to fly to any other UK airport (including London Stanstead).

Quoting MasseyBrown (Reply 21):
LHR 4.5% growth

The combined effects of Bermuda II and unwillingness to improve infrastructure have a cost.

An 'unwillingness to improve infrastructure'? I know everything is bigger and better in the USA but T5 at LHR is currently the biggest structural engineering project in Europe. BAA estimate that when completed it will have absorbed 37 million man hours in the construction process. There are many other surprising facts not the least of which - at least to me - is that it will have 175 escalators and 131 lifts (elevators) when it opens in one year, two weeks and four days time!
 
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RE: 2006 Busiest Airports In The World

Sun Mar 11, 2007 2:45 am

I find it amazing that 16 of the top 30 airports are located in the USA and that only 6 are located in Europe.

I assume that this is a result of the the massive hubbing operations that occur in the states, whereas in Europe most flights within the continent are point to point. Another factor may be that the recent increase in low cost airlines in Europe has occured mainly at secondary airports.

Does anyone know what the overall traffic figures are for the USA vs Europe. Defining what is Europe may be difficult but I would suggest it would be all the present EU states including Norway, Switzerland, the former Yugoslavian countries, Belarus, Ukraine and the western part of Russia.
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RE: 2006 Busiest Airports In The World

Sun Mar 11, 2007 4:53 am

Quoting Thestooges (Reply 44):
I find it amazing that 16 of the top 30 airports are located in the USA and that only 6 are located in Europe.

I assume that this is a result of the the massive hubbing operations that occur in the states, whereas in Europe most flights within the continent are point to point. Another factor may be that the recent increase in low cost airlines in Europe has occurred mainly at secondary airports.

Does anyone know what the overall traffic figures are for the USA vs Europe. Defining what is Europe may be difficult but I would suggest it would be all the present EU states including Norway, Switzerland, the former Yugoslavian countries, Belarus, Ukraine and the western part of Russia.

U.S. hub airports are larger than European or Asian airports and will be for the near future simply because U.S. airlines carry more passengers. For example American Airlines carries more passengers annually than AF and LH combined. In addition, many of the US airport expansion programs currently under construction or on the drawing board will dramatically increase this lead. The ORD expansion program which is currently underway will add four new parallel runways and two new terminals. ATL recently add a new runway and is planning a new terminal. But in the more distance future (20-30 years) it is expect that Asian airports particularly in China and India will take the lead as incomes in those countries increase and more people take to the air.

Total (International + Domestic)

Rank Airline Thousands
1 American Airlines Inc. 98,038
2 Delta Air Lines, Inc 86,007
3 United Airlines 66,717
4 Northwest Airlines, Inc. 57,547
5 Japan Airlines International 50,884
6 Deutsche Lufthansa A.G. 48,958
7 All Nippon Airways 48,315
8 Société Air France 47,787
9 China Southern Airlines 43,228
10 Continental Airlines, Inc 42,777

Source: IATA 2005 WATS
 
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RE: 2006 Busiest Airports In The World

Sun Mar 11, 2007 5:29 am

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 28):
Actually, ATL and ORD have the highest O&D percentages of any airports in the world.

of course not, HND O&D is much higher, specially ATL has a lot of hub operations thank you to DELTA.
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RE: 2006 Busiest Airports In The World

Sun Mar 11, 2007 7:10 am

Quoting Briboy (Reply 2):

7 CDG 56 808 967 5.6
8 FRA 52 810 683 1.1

12 AMS 46 088 221 4.4
13 MAD 45 500 469 8.1

Some heavy competition going on in Europe. What will MAD do next year compared to AMS?

If this development will go on, maybe the top airports in Europe will be 1. LHR, 2. CDG, 3. MAD, 4. AMS, 5 FRA.

Quoting LHStarAlliance (Reply 1):
It?s incredible how CDG overtook FRA , just because of some people living near the airport , not allowing a new runway , it makes me so angry

Well save your frustrated energy LHSTAR. Time will tell if FRA will remain at it's highly respected position, just damaged by CDG. Maybe a strong AF~KL alliance could bring some new movements in Europe. BTW, did you know AMS has actually 5 runways and has a big world reputation?

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RE: 2006 Busiest Airports In The World

Sun Mar 11, 2007 7:15 am

Quoting Paneuropean (Reply 47):
If this development will go on, maybe the top airports in Europe will be 1. LHR, 2. CDG, 3. MAD, 4. AMS, 5 FRA.



Quoting Paneuropean (Reply 47):
Well save your frustrated energy LHSTAR. Time will tell if FRA will remain at it's highly respected position, just damaged by CDG. Maybe a strong AF~KL alliance could bring some new movements in Europe. BTW, did you know AMS has actually 5 runways and has a big world reputation?

it looks like you forget that LH has several A380 and B747-800 on order, you can forget that AMS or MAD will pass FRA, specially as MAD beside the America and Europe traffic does not have any bigger routes, AMS has a relativly small O&D market....
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RE: 2006 Busiest Airports In The World

Sun Mar 11, 2007 7:27 am

Quoting Avianca (Reply 48):
it looks like you forget that LH has several A380 and B747-800 on order, you can forget that AMS or MAD will pass FRA, specially as MAD beside the America and Europe traffic does not have any bigger routes, AMS has a relativly small O&D market....

Neither has Delta, in terms of both O&D at Atlanta and also the current 747 and future 748 and A380 orders. AMS might not be to compare to Atlanta, because ATL is most of all a continental hub and AMS intercontinental, however I don't think the airlines with A380 orders will lead the market, period.

Don't forget BA hasn't ordered the A380 either.

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