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BA To Remove Concorde Model From Heathrow Airport!

Sun Mar 11, 2007 4:04 am

I'm sad to see this happen, but BA have said they cannot justify the large rent paid to BAA for keeping G-CONC on display!

One of the most famous airline advertisements in the UK, the British Airways BAC-Aérospatiale Concorde model at London Heathrow airport, is to disappear and will probably be replaced by an Emirates Airbus A380 after the Middle Eastern carrier acquired the site.

The Concorde model is sited on a roundabout on the north side of Heathrow, where the spur road for the M4 motorway into London intersects the road tunnel beneath runway 09L/27R

Dubai-based Emirates has secured the rights to the advertising site after British Airways ended its 16-year link with the prime location.

Emirates is a little less sentimental about the change. UK and Ireland vice-president Vic Sheppard says: "Concorde will always have a place in the hearts of all aviation enthusiasts, but it represents the past -- while we will be using this site in a fresh and innovative way."


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Let's hope BA put something spectacular in front of Terminal 5!
 
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Sun Mar 11, 2007 4:18 am

I hope they find a nice home for that model!
 
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RE: BA To Remove Concorde Model From Heathrow Airport!

Sun Mar 11, 2007 4:24 am

Quoting Crownvic (Reply 1):
I hope they find a nice home for that model!

It would look great in front of T5.

To be honest, I don't understand why BA did this. This area is prime advertising space and sits right in front of the entrance to the tunnel that 25 million passengers use to get to Terminal 1,2 and 3. Once BA moves in to T5, they could have used the space as a reminder to passengers flying with other airlines on what they were missing out on, namely BA's excellent reputation for quality! What a shame to see it go!
 
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Sun Mar 11, 2007 4:26 am

This is what will be happening,EK have bought the land and a model of an EK A380 will be placed there.

The actual Concorde currently parked at BA maintenance is to be either placed inside or outside the new T5 terminal building as T5 will be solely for BA only.

Great bit of advertising for EK,rent on the land apparently 1.4 million pounds a year!
 
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Sun Mar 11, 2007 4:29 am

Quoting Concorde001 (Thread starter):
One of the most famous airline advertisements in the UK, the British Airways BAC-Aérospatiale Concorde model at London Heathrow airport, is to disappear and will probably be replaced by an Emirates Airbus A380 after the Middle Eastern carrier acquired the site.

Wooow, this is just shocking. I'm surprised they let the space down in favor of an Emirates plane. The Concorde is a symbol of Heathrow, why doing that?! Only because they offered more money?


This is just like filling Schiphol with Air France colors...
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Sun Mar 11, 2007 4:30 am

Quoting EKSkycargo370 (Reply 3):
The actual Concorde currently parked at BA maintenance is to be either placed inside or outside the new T5 terminal building as T5 will be solely for BA only.

When Concorde was retired in 2003, there was alot of talk about placing the Concorde parked on the airfield at LHR right inside Terminal 5 next to the departure gates. Apparently the aircraft was to act as a 'Gate Guardian'. I haven't heard anything about these plans since 2004/2005.
 
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RE: BA To Remove Concorde Model From Heathrow Airport!

Sun Mar 11, 2007 4:57 am

Quoting Concorde001 (Reply 2):
To be honest, I don't understand why BA did this. This area is prime advertising space and sits right in front of the entrance to the tunnel that 25 million passengers use to get to Terminal 1,2 and 3. Once BA moves in to T5, they could have used the space as a reminder to passengers flying with other airlines on what they were missing out on, namely BA's excellent reputation for quality! What a shame to see it go!

I can't see how a model of an aircraft no longer in service would attract people to use BA anyway. Suppose BA put a 777 there instead, how would that attract, new custom - everyone knows who BA are anyway, and a model aircraft says nothing about what your servuce is like INSIDE the plane!
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RE: BA To Remove Concorde Model From Heathrow Airport!

Sun Mar 11, 2007 5:37 am

Quoting AirbusA6 (Reply 6):
I can't see how a model of an aircraft no longer in service would attract people to use BA anyway.

Concorde will always be a symbol of style, innovation and class. If these are not brand attributes that BA wishes to cultivate in the minds of the traveling public then someone in BA marketing is asleep at the controls. Even out of service, Concorde continues to be aspirational to a large number of flyers. This change at Heathrow marks a sad day in its history.

[Edited 2007-03-10 21:40:48]
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RE: BA To Remove Concorde Model From Heathrow Airport!

Sun Mar 11, 2007 7:32 am

Its a disgrace on behalf of emirates, completely neglecting the legacy that the monument had given to heathrow. It'll be too long before an emirates A380 touches down at heathrow anyway. British Airways should not have to pay rent, its the countries national carrier. On that note, I also put shame on the money greedy bastards that charged them rent anyway, the services at heathrow, and to some extent the landing fees keep the airport running very well. The last thing that should represent heathrow is a plane that is not yet in commercial service, and will not be at heathrow for a while, by an airline thats based around 3,300 miles away!!
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Sun Mar 11, 2007 7:49 am

Where would the real concorde at T5 go ? Or would they cut it up to fit ? (maybe remove a wing or the rear section ?

I would imagine the model G-Conc will be scrapped or given to a museum.

When BA all flies from T5, then the entrance to T1-3 makes no sense any more. At least today they fly from T1.

Look at it this way, they replaced the "old future" with the "new future", or the "old white elephant" with the new "white elephant"
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RE: BA To Remove Concorde Model From Heathrow Airport!

Sun Mar 11, 2007 7:53 am

Quoting CJAContinental (Reply 8):
Its a disgrace on behalf of emirates, completely neglecting the legacy that the monument had given to heathrow. It'll be too long before an emirates A380 touches down at heathrow anyway. British Airways should not have to pay rent, its the countries national carrier. On that note, I also put shame on the money greedy bastards that charged them rent anyway, the services at heathrow, and to some extent the landing fees keep the airport running very well. The last thing that should represent heathrow is a plane that is not yet in commercial service, and will not be at heathrow for a while, by an airline thats based around 3,300 miles away!!

welcome to the real world of business...surely BA make enough money to pay the rent on it? It's not EK's problem if BA decide to cancel the contract.
 
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Sun Mar 11, 2007 8:22 am

Quoting StarGoldLHR (Reply 9):

When BA all flies from T5, then the entrance to T1-3 makes no sense any more. At least today they fly from T1.

Not all BA flights will go from T5, Aus routes will move to T3.

I personally will be sad to see the Concorde model be removed, it's been there ever since I remember and is something I always look forward to seeing when I'm heading into the central area. It's one hell of a way to welcome people to London.

People will always associate Concorde with BA, and BA with Concorde (no disrespect to AF).

At the end of the day I assume it comes down to money as most things in the aviation world now do, Willie must enjoy having an extra £1million or so to add to the other cuts he's making around BA.  box 

Quoting CJAContinental (Reply 8):
Its a disgrace on behalf of emirates

I can't for the life of me see how this could be perceived as EK's fault. They are out there to compete against every other airline. If BA does not think it's important to market their airline (which that Concorde model does do regardless of what people say) at the busiest airport approach road, that's BA's problem. Good move by EK on their part, surprised VS didn't try and get it, that would have ruffled a few feathers at BA I'm sure.

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RE: BA To Remove Concorde Model From Heathrow Airport!

Sun Mar 11, 2007 9:23 am

I read in the Heathrow Skyport that G-CONC will be offered to either Brooklands or Duxford.

It seems that in BA's mind that Concorde is gone and forgotten already. I'll bet that G-BOAB won't last much longer at LHR at this rate.

I very much doubt if it will become a "gate guardian" at T5, and I certainly don't think it will end up inside the terminal as it has been stated that the plans were too far advanced at that stage to consider it, although personally I don't think it would take a great deal to be able to accomplish that with the amount of empty space inside the new building.

I'm sure that the BAA and BA could have found a place to re-locate the model whilst still keeping it at LHR, but as I said before, it seems like BA are now trying to distance itself from Concorde. Heck, if they really wanted to keep it, they could even have re-located it to Waterworld, there is plenty of space it could go there.

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RE: BA To Remove Concorde Model From Heathrow Airport!

Sun Mar 11, 2007 9:52 am

Quoting EKSkycargo370 (Reply 3):
This is what will be happening,EK have bought the land and a model of an EK A380 will be placed there.

Great bit of advertising for EK,rent on the land apparently 1.4 million pounds a year!

Which is it? Did EK "buy" the land or are they "renting" the land?
 
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RE: BA To Remove Concorde Model From Heathrow Airport!

Sun Mar 11, 2007 9:52 am

Quoting BritPilot777 (Reply 11):
At the end of the day I assume it comes down to money as most things in the aviation world now do, Willie must enjoy having an extra £1million or so to add to the other cuts he's making around BA. box

I'm not so sure they were actually paying anything for the space up to now, but instead that BAA proposed starting to charge for it....
 
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RE: BA To Remove Concorde Model From Heathrow Airport!

Sun Mar 11, 2007 10:00 am

Quoting KLM685 (Reply 4):
This is just like filling Schiphol with Air France colors...

Aren't you over-reacting ? what has to do with AF and AMS ?
 
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RE: BA To Remove Concorde Model From Heathrow Airport!

Sun Mar 11, 2007 10:00 am

Let us face the realties that: 1) EK has the money that BA doesn't have, 2) the Concorde is not longer flying but the A380 will soon be flying, and 3) BAA is looking to make money to make more profits. I do wish BA, for which LHR is their 'home' airport, could continue to have a display of their airline there, but sometimes money is thicker and more important than emotions.
 
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RE: BA To Remove Concorde Model From Heathrow Airport!

Sun Mar 11, 2007 10:00 am

Quoting CJAContinental (Reply 8):
Its a disgrace on behalf of emirates, completely neglecting the legacy that the monument had given to heathrow. It'll be too long before an emirates A380 touches down at heathrow anyway. British Airways should not have to pay rent, its the countries national carrier. On that note, I also put shame on the money greedy bastards that charged them rent anyway, the services at heathrow, and to some extent the landing fees keep the airport running very well. The last thing that should represent heathrow is a plane that is not yet in commercial service, and will not be at heathrow for a while, by an airline thats based around 3,300 miles away!!

Absoloutly Fantastic response and welcome to my Respected Users list!
I do not understand why BA has to pay £1.5 million for this every year as well, its disgusting.
I will be very sorry to see it go as I pass it 4 times a day to get to work.
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RE: BA To Remove Concorde Model From Heathrow Airport!

Sun Mar 11, 2007 10:25 am

Wow! Even though I'm an economist and usually agree with the term "money speaks," this is actually very, very sad. I never flew the Concorde, but remember seeing them taxiing at CDG many, many years ago. I think in this case money should not speak and BAA should come to some kind of agreement with BA in order not to let the Concorde go.

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RE: BA To Remove Concorde Model From Heathrow Airport!

Sun Mar 11, 2007 10:27 am

Quoting CJAContinental (Reply 8):
Its a disgrace on behalf of emirates, completely neglecting the legacy that the monument

Honestly why should EK give a squat about the legacy? Their aim is to make people fly with them, not assisting BA in any way.

Quoting CJAContinental (Reply 8):
British Airways should not have to pay rent, its the countries national carrier.

As long as BA do not own that piece of prime spot, of course they have to pay rent to the land owner. Does this mean that since they are the national carrier they get massive discounts off the airport tax too? (or better still, zero tax) You see how ridiculous that sounds? Welcome to free market economy.

[Edited 2007-03-11 03:41:44]
 
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RE: BA To Remove Concorde Model From Heathrow Airport!

Sun Mar 11, 2007 1:43 pm

Quoting Mindscape (Reply 15):
Quoting KLM685 (Reply 4):
This is just like filling Schiphol with Air France colors...

Aren't you over-reacting ? what has to do with AF and AMS ?

I think KLM685 was using an analogy.
 
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RE: BA To Remove Concorde Model From Heathrow Airport!

Sun Mar 11, 2007 2:19 pm

Rather sad as the Concord model was one of the few enjoyable aspects of flying from Heathrow.

I think that the one thing BAA didn't understand was that the model was a symbol for Heathrow as much as it was for BA.
 
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Sun Mar 11, 2007 2:34 pm

Quoting Concorde001 (Reply 2):
It would look great in front of T5.

I agree, if BA move there, then that is where their BA concorde should go.

I am shocked about this news, when I lived in England, that is one of the things I distinctly remembered about LHR. The only thing I remembered more was that sign (by the concorde) that appeared to have a giant spider behind it as it gave me nightmares  Sad

EK 380 model, that's great news for Airbus.

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RE: BA To Remove Concorde Model From Heathrow Airport!

Sun Mar 11, 2007 2:40 pm

Never been a huge Concorde fan other than the fact it is a pretty airplane and would have made an awesome medium cold war bomber!!!

That model however was great. It always signified to me that I'd beaten London traffic and finally made it into the airport.

A true landmark.
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RE: BA To Remove Concorde Model From Heathrow Airport!

Sun Mar 11, 2007 4:03 pm

Well the model represented a service BA no longer offers, so it was slightly disingenuous or rather misleading! As for G-BOAB being a gate guardian at T5, rumour has it that won't be!
 
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RE: BA To Remove Concorde Model From Heathrow Airport!

Sun Mar 11, 2007 5:44 pm

What I would think that would look good is a silver, metal goble that has aircraft flying around in either various airline colours or plain silver aircraft, perhaps british built aircraft? Although I guess the average passenger wouldn't realise the significance. Will give off the signal that LHR is a global airport.
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RE: BA To Remove Concorde Model From Heathrow Airport!

Sun Mar 11, 2007 7:04 pm

Quoting StarGoldLHR (Reply 9):
Look at it this way, they replaced the "old future" with the "new future", or the "old white elephant" with the new "white elephant"

Good point. The only thing similar between Concorde and the A380 will be the total number of frames produced.
 
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RE: BA To Remove Concorde Model From Heathrow Airport!

Sun Mar 11, 2007 7:26 pm

Hi All

I cant see the point in continuing with G-CONC anyway. In 12 Months or so............ the vast majority of customers will be coming to a new sparkly T5 bypassing the roundabout all together.

So I guess an Emirates A 380 will be perfect and look forward to seeing it!.

Only hope the models night lighting will work once installed...I have heard that the wiring has been a bit dodgy!  Smile

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RE: BA To Remove Concorde Model From Heathrow Airport!

Sun Mar 11, 2007 7:44 pm

A good place the model could go, or even one of the actual Concorde aircraft, would be at the 'T5' roundabout at the entrance to Terminal 5 itself.

This one here:

http://www.airliners.net/open.file?i...942704&next_id=0924761&tbl=AIRPORT

What do you think?
 
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Sun Mar 11, 2007 7:44 pm

Quoting Keno (Reply 19):
Honestly why should EK give a squat about the legacy?

Honestly, why should we give a squat about "in-your-face" EK? Even if the land was available for lease/sale, and if EK Marketing "dudes" and "gals" had a bit of creativity left, they would have kept the Concorde, right there, and would have written below, or around the model - "British masterpiece" or "British history", supported or remembered by Emirates. Now that would have been a real marketing move! This way, its pure and simple greed, as they show no respect for British Aviation history, rather just their self-gain. This could have been easily achieved elsewhere and without "ticking-off" too many people.

Money cant and shouldn't be able to buy everything.... otherwise what's next? the Burj hotel instead of the Clock Tower? Big grin

Bad move in my opinion.
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Sun Mar 11, 2007 7:54 pm

Quoting Speedbirdie (Reply 17):
Absoloutly Fantastic response and welcome to my Respected Users list!
I do not understand why BA has to pay £1.5 million for this every year as well, its disgusting.
I will be very sorry to see it go as I pass it 4 times a day to get to work.
We will miss you very much G-CONC... well I will anyway!

As mentioned at the time, the Ferrovial takeover of BAA only makes financial sense, if they can make substantial increases to income, and reductions in expendidture. Their charges to airlines are regulated by the government; thus they need to look at all the subsidiary sources. £1.5 million per annum for any otherwise useless piece of land is a hell of a good deal for BAA.

I can fully understand BA's reluctance to part with that kind of cash; thinking logically the majority of people seeing the site, are those just departing who have already booked a flight, and those just returning to whom their next flight is at present a low priorty. The money would be far better spent on other forms of advertising.

Specifically with regard to the Concorde model, IMO it now has little if any significance to BA and the travelling public. Yes in its day it was a great symbol of Anglo French technology; it gave the clear message that BA (and AF) operated the Worlds most advanced airliner.
What does it say now ?

We used to operate a supersonic arliner, but after 25 years of operation their was nothing to replace it so we're now back to subsonic boxes like everyone else.

If EK think there's £1.5 million/annum of value in a tennis court sized piece of grass next to the Heathrow access tunnel good luck to them !!!!!. The only people who get a good view are those who are cursing because the traffic's stopped yet again.
 
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RE: BA To Remove Concorde Model From Heathrow Airport!

Sun Mar 11, 2007 8:10 pm

Quoting BritPilot777 (Reply 11):
Not all BA flights will go from T5, Aus routes will move to T3.

I thought that all longhaul flights were to leave from T5 and only the flights to Spain and Italy were to leave from T3

Quoting CJAContinental (Reply 8):
Its a disgrace on behalf of emirates, completely neglecting the legacy that the monument had given to heathrow. It'll be too long before an emirates A380 touches down at heathrow anyway. British Airways should not have to pay rent, its the countries national carrier. On that note, I also put shame on the money greedy bastards that charged them rent anyway, the services at heathrow, and to some extent the landing fees keep the airport running very well. The last thing that should represent heathrow is a plane that is not yet in commercial service, and will not be at heathrow for a while, by an airline thats based around 3,300 miles away!!

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RE: BA To Remove Concorde Model From Heathrow Airp

Sun Mar 11, 2007 9:34 pm

Shame on BAA for having G-CONC dismantled and moved from where she is.
I will certainly miss her.

I hope British Airways will find her a suitable new location.

I hope she will not be broken during dismantling. G-CONC has a steel frame so it won't be an easy job.
She might need to be cut off?... I have no idea how they are going to do it.

Does anybody here know when she is going to be moved and when they will start doing the "work"?

I for one will boycott Emirates. I never flew with them and there is no chance that they will ever get my business. I am a several million miles flyer... I happened to do 200K a year at times, so... their loss!!
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RE: BA To Remove Concorde Model From Heathrow Airport!

Sun Mar 11, 2007 9:38 pm

It is a shame to see it go but I guess it couldnt stay there forever. I have passed it many times and it is a nice sight to see. I will however be interested to see a EK A380 there and think it will also look very nice.

The absence of ''Britishness'' on that site though is a sign of the times. But I guess when BA open T5 they will have something equally nice (heres hoping) !!!!!
 
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RE: BA To Remove Concorde Model From Heathrow Airport!

Sun Mar 11, 2007 10:31 pm

Quoting CJAContinental (Reply 8):
Its a disgrace on behalf of emirates, completely neglecting the legacy that the monument had given to heathrow. It'll be too long before an emirates A380 touches down at heathrow anyway. British Airways should not have to pay rent, its the countries national carrier. On that note, I also put shame on the money greedy bastards that charged them rent anyway, the services at heathrow, and to some extent the landing fees keep the airport running very well. The last thing that should represent heathrow is a plane that is not yet in commercial service, and will not be at heathrow for a while, by an airline thats based around 3,300 miles away!!



Quoting Speedbirdie (Reply 17):
I do not understand why BA has to pay £1.5 million for this every year as well, its disgusting.



Quoting JoKeR (Reply 29):
This way, its pure and simple greed, as they show no respect for British Aviation history, rather just their self-gain.



Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 32):
I for one will boycott Emirates.

Lets get a few things straight here. BA is not the UK's national carrier. It is now a public company so is no more a national carrier than BD or VS - it just happens to be a lot bigger.

How can anyone blame Emirates for taking the opportunity to rent a piece of prime advertising space which was coming up for renewal? Why should EK feel shame or guilt that it is going to replace the concorde model, bearing in mind that it was going to go anyway - no matter which company was to rent the site next.

Quoting Speedbirdie (Reply 17):
Absoloutly Fantastic response and welcome to my Respected Users list!



Quoting Sketty222 (Reply 31):
You took the words right out of my mouth. Welcome to my RU list

This just goes to show what little value the RU lists have.
 
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Sun Mar 11, 2007 10:54 pm

Quoting UK_Dispatcher (Reply 34):
Lets get a few things straight here. BA is not the UK's national carrier. It is now a public company so is no more a national carrier than BD or VS - it just happens to be a lot bigger.

Nothing to do with BA, I was commenting about the British Aviation history for one.

Two, all I said was that EK could have received just as much publicity and apathy (maybe even more) had it done something along the lines of "protecting" the model of this masterpiece of aviation history by commemorating it with a plaque for example. It could have repainted it into its factory livery if BA's was "unacceptable".... the point is Concorde at Heathrow! A monument of sort.

Quoting UK_Dispatcher (Reply 34):
This just goes to show what little value the RU lists have.

People have right to express and support each others views, some even agree with you!
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RE: BA To Remove Concorde Model From Heathrow Airport!

Sun Mar 11, 2007 10:57 pm

Quoting UK_Dispatcher (Reply 34):
This just goes to show what little value the RU lists have.

I agree its a bit childish to say your going to boycott EK because BA has sold its soul!!! BAA is a business and it has the right to charge rent for its land. If BA wanted it so much they should have bought it or long term leased it for 99 years. BA has no pride in its history otherwise they would have done alot more to save the model. Would you rather McDonalds lease it than EK????

At least by the sounds of it another AC will go there in its place. If you want to boycott anyone boycott BA for giving it up !!!!

Quoting UK_Dispatcher (Reply 34):
BA is not the UK's national carrier. It is now a public company so is no more a national carrier than BD or VS

Just to correct you on that !!! BA is still considered by the majority of British people as the national carrier even if its not ''state'' owned anymore.
 
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RE: BA To Remove Concorde Model From Heathrow Airport!

Sun Mar 11, 2007 10:59 pm

Hi Again

Errr Sorry has this thread tripped into La La land??

Bashing and Boycott Emirates for taking advertising space that BA no longer wished to have an option on??

I am sorry but I fail to see how anybody can get upset with anybody other than BA?? If BA (and I agree with them here) wish not to take out another lease on what as has been said, " a tennis court size piece of land" so be it! There current attention is focused on moving away from T1 to T5 not maintaining an image that is both out of date and expensive.

The model will end up somewhere, I am sure, to be seen by all those who wish to see it and EK will have there prime spot with the great whale looking impressive as it is.

For G-CONC, It has had its day, that time has now passed. Move onwards and upwards.........or as far as Brooklands or Duxford!!

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RE: BA To Remove Concorde Model From Heathrow Airport!

Sun Mar 11, 2007 11:08 pm

Quoting Strudders (Reply 37):
Bashing and Boycott Emirates for taking advertising space that BA no longer wished to have an option on??

I am sorry but I fail to see how anybody can get upset with anybody other than BA?? If BA (and I agree with them here) wish not to take out another lease on what as has been said, " a tennis court size piece of land" so be it!

Exactly.

I think the views of those who are bashing EK for this are clouded by sentiment. I think a reality check is needed.

That said, it just had to be EK though, didn't it?!
 
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RE: BA To Remove Concorde Model From Heathrow Airport!

Sun Mar 11, 2007 11:46 pm

it will always be remembered in abfab for the time they approached heathrow to go to new york:

patsy: 'it's taking off without us!'

edwina: 'no, its just the model'
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RE: BA To Remove Concorde Model From Heathrow Airport!

Sun Mar 11, 2007 11:57 pm

Quoting OA260 (Reply 36):
Just to correct you on that !!! BA is still considered by the majority of British people as the national carrier even if its not ''state'' owned anymore.

Well to correct you on your correction, BA is NOT the national carrier and what 'the majority of British people consider' hardly makes that fact any less relevant. The days of appointed national carriers are long-over for most countries.
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RE: BA To Remove Concorde Model From Heathrow Airport!

Mon Mar 12, 2007 12:06 am

An Emirates 380? Hmmm. Quite surprising. Would expect to see Ferrovial insisting on an Iberia 320 or 321. Well there you go.
 
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RE: BA To Remove Concorde Model From Heathrow Airport!

Mon Mar 12, 2007 12:14 am

I did not realize it was advertising space. I assumed it was airport property and a monument to the fastest airliner ever built and flown daily from that airport. It's a tremendous scale model and I'd like to see it put somewhere on permanent display.

Quoting Concorde001 (Reply 2):
This area is prime advertising space and sits right in front of the entrance to the tunnel that 25 million passengers use
Yeah....they're already at the airport.

I'd think that the advertising pound would be better spent on displaying that thing someplace downtown....maybe on top of a building at Piccadilly Circus.

[Edited 2007-03-11 17:16:26]
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RE: BA To Remove Concorde Model From Heathrow Airport!

Mon Mar 12, 2007 12:26 am

Quoting Threepoint (Reply 40):
Well to correct you on your correction, BA is NOT the national carrier and what 'the majority of British people consider' hardly makes that fact any less relevant. The days of appointed national carriers are long-over for most countries.

Sorry you are wrong !!! So I will correct you . I grew up 5 miles from LHR and also my first job in Aviation was at LHR. I do know what Im talking about !!! If you asked most people what the national carrier of the UK was the majority would say BA . Whether its official or not it still would be the answer. Maybe its different where you are from but BA is still the UK's national carrier . I didnt say that on paper it was officially the national carrier.
 
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RE: BA To Remove Concorde Model From Heathrow Airport!

Mon Mar 12, 2007 12:33 am

Quoting NeptunesCar (Reply 39):
NeptunesCar From Maldives, joined Dec 2003, 92 posts, RR: 0Reply 39, posted Sun Mar 11 2007 21:46:27 your local time (25 minutes 18 secs ago) and read 241 times:it will always be remembered in abfab for the time they approached heathrow to go to new york:patsy: 'it's taking off without us!' edwina: 'no, its just the model'You call it the world, we call it home. Pan Am.


A Classic moment!

It is sad that she will be gone from her current location, she has been there for as long as I can remember. One day while going to NY, we drove past the model and my dad told me "One day, you will get to fly on that" - little did I know that when we got to check-in... we were flying to JFK on Concorde! Every time I see it, I know that I'm home, hopefully BA will make a wise decision and ensure that it is displayed in a tasteful manner. After all, Concorde was, is, and forever will be a great source of national pride for Britain, regardless if you have flown it or not. As for EK obtaining the lease on the current land, they are well within their right to use it however they see fit, once BA no longer wants/needs it. Personally I would love to have seen a VS A380, or something from BD.... something British, but we live (for the most part) in a free market world, where national pride, culture and history take a back seat to a companies bottom line, and their respective shareholders.
 
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RE: BA To Remove Concorde Model From Heathrow Airport!

Mon Mar 12, 2007 12:38 am

Quoting OA260 (Reply 43):
Sorry you are wrong !!! So I will correct you . I grew up 5 miles from LHR and also my first job in Aviation was at LHR. I do know what Im talking about !!! If you asked most people what the national carrier of the UK was the majority would say BA . Whether its official or not it still would be the answer.

There is a big difference between what people say/assume and what is true. The fact is that BA is in no way designated the UK's national airline. The fact that you grew up 5 miles from LHR does not change that. If it were only 3 miles then....  Wink
 
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RE: BA To Remove Concorde Model From Heathrow Airport!

Mon Mar 12, 2007 12:46 am

Quoting UK_Dispatcher (Reply 45):
The fact that you grew up 5 miles from LHR does not change that. If it were only 3 miles then....

LOL....well it could have been less!!! I just rounded it up !!!LOL....

Anyway when do you think its due to be removed??? Im back in 4 weeks so hopefully I will get a last look at it before it gets taken down.
 
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RE: BA To Remove Concorde Model From Heathrow Airport!

Mon Mar 12, 2007 12:46 am

Quoting KLM685 (Reply 4):
This is just like filling Schiphol with Air France colors

Actually considering that AF and KL are the same company, apart from the names, I think it would be very different, than Emirates taking advantage of advertising space.
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RE: BA To Remove Concorde Model From Heathrow Airport!

Mon Mar 12, 2007 12:49 am

Quoting DL021 (Reply 42):
I'd think that the advertising pound would be better spent on displaying that thing someplace downtown....maybe on top of a building at Piccadilly Circus.

Where who, exactly, would see it?!?

Quoting OA260 (Reply 43):
Sorry you are wrong !!! So I will correct you . I grew up 5 miles from LHR and also my first job in Aviation was at LHR. I do know what Im talking about !!! If you asked most people what the national carrier of the UK was the majority would say BA . Whether its official or not it still would be the answer. Maybe its different where you are from but BA is still the UK's national carrier . I didnt say that on paper it was officially the national carrier.

I grew up 5 miles from Cape Canaveral, so following your logic, I know all about rocket science.

I'm not disputing what the majority of people think. I'm pointing out that you corrected a post which said "BA is not the UK's national carrier". You based your remark upon your individual perception of what the general public may or may not think. Your remark was not backed up by any source, study or poll. So you DID imply (on the internet if not on paper) that BA - if only in your mind - is the national carrier of the UK, which may irk a few thousand employees and patrons of some very prominent alternate British airlines.
And just what the heck is a national carrier anyway?
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RE: BA To Remove Concorde Model From Heathrow Airport!

Mon Mar 12, 2007 12:59 am

Quoting Threepoint (Reply 48):
I grew up 5 miles from Cape Canaveral, so following your logic, I know all about rocket science.

Good for you !!!!!

Quoting Threepoint (Reply 48):
Where who, exactly, would see it?!?

You wouldnt see it . It would be a waste of time putting it there. Hopefully they can put it in front of a roundabout in T5 or at the side of the road as you enter the entrance. Or indeed it may go to duxford or somewhere like that. Maybe the science museum.