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Why Bother With An Investigation?

Wed Jul 26, 2000 6:41 am

Barely a few hours since this tragedy and I've seen more speculation on TV from people who have no business speculating. Two individuals, one an attorney, the other from an aviation consumer watchdog group got on TV to say that, as a result of this crash, they would never board a Concorde. Neither individual would qualify as having any technical expertise, yet they feel the need to denounce Concorde's age as being a problem. When the interviewer responded, much to my surprise, about all of the other older aircraft operating today, neither could give anything close to a satisfactory answer. With all of these pseudo-geniuses who, 5 hours into the disaster, have all of the answers, why bother with an investigation ?
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RE: Why Bother With An Investigation?

Wed Jul 26, 2000 6:59 am

I agree that too many people pass comment without knowledge.

It is a sad, sad day and too late to draw any certain conclusions.

An investigation has to happen however, to stop anything like this happening again. I don't know enough to pass judgement, but I would ground Concorde's for a while, just as a precaution. I don't know how confident I or anyone else would be flying it now, just because of the fact it is the most shocking event to occur in living memory. If you want proof, look at older threads, they are so insignificant in todays perspective.

We must show respect to anyone who is directly or indirectly involved, that could be reading what we write.

My thoughts go out to all of you.
 
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RE: Why Bother With An Investigation?

Wed Jul 26, 2000 7:00 am

I agree that too many people pass comment without knowledge.

It is a sad, sad day and too early to draw any certain conclusions.

An investigation has to happen however, to stop anything like this happening again. I don't know enough to pass judgement, but I would ground Concorde's for a while, just as a precaution. I don't know how confident I or anyone else would be flying it now, just because of the fact it is the most shocking event to occur in living memory. If you want proof, look at older threads, they are so insignificant in todays perspective.

We must show respect to anyone who is directly or indirectly involved, that could be reading what we write.

My thoughts go out to all of you.
 
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RE: Why Bother With An Investigation?

Wed Jul 26, 2000 7:22 am

Most shocking event to occur in living memory? What's happened is horrifying, and deeply sad, but I think that statement is a little out of proportion.

It's interesting that everyone is assuming that Concorde should immediately be grounded. Remember, this is a plane with possibly the finest safety record in the world. Something went badly wrong today, there's no doubt of that, but things do and have gone wrong with many lesser planes over the years without entire fleets being grounded over it.

I think the reaction, and part of the shock everyone is feeling, is due ironically to the very special qualities of this aircraft. I, for one, hope I still get the chance to fly on it one day.
 
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RE: Why Bother With An Investigation?

Wed Jul 26, 2000 7:36 am

The goal of my original post was sarcasism. Obviously, an investigation is necessary. Although, late word is that AF and BA have decided to temporarilly ground Concorde, once again we can't jump to any conclusions. Except for the AA DC-10 accident at O'Hare, when has a type been grounded following a crash ? To my immediate recollection, never. The 747 after TWA, JAL, Air India ? The MD-80 after Alaska ? The 737 after Pittsburgh and Colorado Springs ? The MD-11 after Halifax ? This is my point. I welcome any other opinions.
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RE: Why Bother With An Investigation?

Wed Jul 26, 2000 7:37 am

I know it's upsetting to see people speculate before the evidence is in - but we (those of us at airliners.net) share the good fortune of knowing significantly more about these aircraft than your average Joe/Josephine. They are afraid, and this tragedy comes at a time most likely to provoke the greatest fear (re: Monday's revelation about cracks around the wing spars).
The Concorde has had an extraordinary safety record - but sadly, this flight had a dramatically different outcome. I know that all of us would personally extend our condolences, if we had the chance. Because, although we love aircraft, we can't help but be moved by the staggering loss of life.

My kindest thoughts and deepest sympathies to all of you who mourn the passing of friends and loved ones.

Kimberley
 
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RE: Why Bother With An Investigation?

Wed Jul 26, 2000 8:10 am

I understand the tragedy of this event, but say perhaps this was a 737, this could be (for lack of a better description) simply another crash and everybody would go about their ways of the investigation, etc.

Because this is the Concorde and it has such a mystique about it, I think people are reacting differently. If you think about it, 115 dead is not a substantial total (God rest their souls), but they perished on the Concorde and that is amplified by the media.

Really, how much coverage do crashes in China and India get in the US? Barely a mention in the paper and their death tolls often exceed 115 people.

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