cumulus
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Airliners Flying Empty To Keep 'Slots'.

Tue Mar 13, 2007 12:16 am

I had no idea this was happening, it's hardly suprising the "Green Brigade" are up in arms.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6441103.stm
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ikramerica
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RE: Airliners Flying Empty To Keep 'Slots'.

Tue Mar 13, 2007 1:09 am

"If you had a system in place, such as the one the Lib Dems and Conservatives propose where airlines pay a tax on every plane based on carbon emissions, there would be a much greater incentive not to run these kind of flights."

Why? If every flight at heathrow costs X% more, and thus they would charge X% more to customers, why does that mean that an airline would be willing to lose a slot then but not now? Business is business.
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PHKLM
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RE: Airliners Flying Empty To Keep 'Slots'.

Tue Mar 13, 2007 1:21 am

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 1):
Why? If every flight at heathrow costs X% more, and thus they would charge X% more to customers, why does that mean that an airline would be willing to lose a slot then but not now? Business is business.

They reason along the lines: currently Bmed operates the London-Cardiff route, but when adding a CO2 tax, this would become too expensive, so it is an incentive to give up the slots. Next step, off course, is that another airline takes up these slots and starts operating flights. The environment isn't helped in any way but environmentalists always have their own kind of reasoning.

On a side not, I understand that the KL flights LHR-EIN and LHR-RTM are only sensible because they allow KL to keep slots at LHR, but are not the biggest profit makers in the KL network.
I do want to emphasize the KL flights are actually operated and bookable.
 
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RE: Airliners Flying Empty To Keep 'Slots'.

Tue Mar 13, 2007 1:28 am

God never knew that !!! Learn something new everyday!!! They could have given free seats to Anetters !!! The planes would have been full then ...lol
 
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RE: Airliners Flying Empty To Keep 'Slots'.

Tue Mar 13, 2007 1:41 am

I am quite sure that this goes on at slot contoled airports or where slots are rarely available, especially for desirable flight times, including LHR and LGA. An airline may hold that spot when another and less profitable flight was discontinued to keep out competitors or they choose to expand to fly to another destination. Some flights may also be very busy on certain days for business (like Monday and/or Friday) or tourist travelers (Friday, Saturday) certain parts of the year like summer, holiday weeks for tourists, so may have to have 'empty' flights to keep the slot.