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Major 787 Subsections Take Shape

Tue Mar 13, 2007 3:01 am

Great rundown on the first 787 to be built:

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...or-787-subsections-take-shape.html
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The first shipset of Alenia Aeronautica-built fuselage sections for the Boeing 787 was due to be flown this week from the Grottaglie assembly site in Italy to the Global Aeronautica Alenia Vought joint venture site in Charleston, South Carolina - a major milestone towards completion of the first aircraft.

The shipset will consist of the 10.1m (33.1ft)-long centre-aft fuselage Section 46 and 8.5m-long mid-Section 44, which together make up about 60% of the main fuselage subassembly. They will be flown by 747LCF Dreamlifter to Charleston, where they will be integrated with the 6.1m-long Kawasaki Heavy Industries-built forward fuselage Section 43, and Fuji Heavy Industries (FHI) centre wing box and fuselage Section 11/45. These sections have already been shipped to the US site.
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The delayed flight test and certification effort for the Dreamlifter continues with autopilot tests of the first aircraft, RT876, and flight tests in Taiwan and Japan on the second large cargo freighter.

Despite the delays, Boeing says the US Federal Aviation Administration has agreed to allow payloads to be carried before official certification. "We've kept the FAA tied in throughout the flight- test programme and certification process, and they have agreed to allow us to deliver parts under an experimental ticket until certification," it says. "While certification is later than we had targeted, there is no impact on the 787 schedule." Certification of the Dreamlifter is not now expected until April.



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RE: Major 787 Subsections Take Shape

Tue Mar 13, 2007 3:20 am

Reading this article leads me to believe that LCF 2 was in Nagoya to pick up another section 11/45, section 43 for charleston (its flying there right now). They'll drop it off and then fly to Italy from there to pick up the first section 44 and 46 from Alenia and fly back to CHS. I think after that the LCF will fly to NGO to pick up the wings and fly to PAE with them.
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RE: Major 787 Subsections Take Shape

Tue Mar 13, 2007 4:22 am

The 787 is truly a world airplane.
Welcome to the Global Economy....

Great to see the nose section!, even with the redesign, it looks very sleak!
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RE: Major 787 Subsections Take Shape

Tue Mar 13, 2007 4:40 am

Quoting Stirling (Reply 2):
Great to see the nose section!, even with the redesign, it looks very sleak!

Contributing to that sleekness is the lack of rivets. I'm still in awe of how smooth the surface can be without the need for fasteners. Just look at the thing... it's totally smooth. It makes most other airliners seem so "retro" in comparison.
 
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RE: Major 787 Subsections Take Shape

Tue Mar 13, 2007 4:44 am

Quoting NYC777 (Thread starter):
Despite the delays, Boeing says the US Federal Aviation Administration has agreed to allow payloads to be carried before official certification. "We've kept the FAA tied in throughout the flight- test programme and certification process, and they have agreed to allow us to deliver parts under an experimental ticket until certification," it says. "While certification is later than we had targeted, there is no impact on the 787 schedule." Certification of the Dreamlifter is not now expected until April.

Any SuperGuppies still airworthy  Wink Wonder what the certification holdup on the 744LCF is...
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RE: Major 787 Subsections Take Shape

Tue Mar 13, 2007 4:45 am

Like when Hughes went to flush rivets back when the world was doing it the old fashioned way...
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RE: Major 787 Subsections Take Shape

Tue Mar 13, 2007 4:59 am

Quoting Stirling (Reply 2):
The 787 is truly a world airplane.
Welcome to the Global Economy....

Yes. Itsn't it great. Even the engineering was performed by people from all over the world. So why are A vs B wars mainly due to national pride???

What confounds me is the logistics involved. That is an engineering marvel in itself. And the fact that it is cheaper this way than building it all in one location.
 
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RE: Major 787 Subsections Take Shape

Tue Mar 13, 2007 5:11 am

Quoting Laddb (Reply 6):
And the fact that it is cheaper this way than building it all in one location.

Not really cheaper, adds a low percentage figure to unit costs. On the other hand, it allows the overall business case to benefit a.o. from a larger number of 'funding opportunities' the program is able to tap into via Boeing's partners.
 
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RE: Major 787 Subsections Take Shape

Mon Mar 19, 2007 7:00 am

Quoting NYC777 (Thread starter):
The first shipset of Alenia Aeronautica-built fuselage sections for the Boeing 787 was due to be flown this week from the Grottaglie assembly site in Italy to the Global Aeronautica Alenia Vought joint venture site in Charleston, South Carolina - a major milestone towards completion of the first aircraft.

Anybody have an update on this? It's March 18th and BOE632 (LCF 2) has been sitting in Charleston for almost a week now. In the article, 'this week' referred to the week of March 12-16.

BOE876 (LCF 1) continues gyrating about, presumably on certification flights.

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RE: Major 787 Subsections Take Shape

Mon Mar 19, 2007 7:33 am

Quoting WingedMigrator (Reply 8):
Anybody have an update on this? It's March 18th and BOE632 (LCF 2) has been sitting in Charleston for almost a week now. In the article, 'this week' referred to the week of March 12-16.

LCF 2 is now expected to fly to Italy on Tuesday and then back to CHS with the Italian built sections on Wednesday. Main wing body join is still scheduled for April 3r dthough that might slip. We'll see.
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RE: Major 787 Subsections Take Shape

Mon Mar 19, 2007 9:15 am

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 9):
Main wing body join is still scheduled for April 3r dthough that might slip. We'll see.

That is next week. The wings haven't been picked up yet, right? Could I be seeing the LCF on Friday the 23rd?
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RE: Major 787 Subsections Take Shape

Mon Mar 19, 2007 9:25 am

Quoting Centrair (Reply 10):
That is next week. The wings haven't been picked up yet, right? Could I be seeing the LCF on Friday the 23rd?

It is entirely possible (the LCF leaves CHS on the 22nd right after dropping off the fuselage) but if I were a beeting man I would say that the 24th was more likely.
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RE: Major 787 Subsections Take Shape

Mon Mar 19, 2007 9:36 am

Quoting Stirling (Reply 2):
The 787 is truly a world airplane.

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The Italian-assembled horizontal stabilisers, which were the subject of a minor design revision late last year following bird strike tests, include Israel Aerospace Industries made trailing- and leading-edges and Turkish Aerospace Industries made body seal sections.
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RE: Major 787 Subsections Take Shape

Mon Mar 19, 2007 12:37 pm

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 11):
if I were a beeting man I would say that the 24th was more likely.

I will track the sucker and if it is on its way here. I will try and get a photo from the obvservation deck or Parking lot 3. (Just hope I have time.)

Quoting BoomBoom (Reply 12):
The Italian-assembled horizontal stabilisers, which were the subject of a minor design revision late last year following bird strike tests, include Israel Aerospace Industries made trailing- and leading-edges and Turkish Aerospace Industries made body seal sections.

Sounds like the beginning of a bad joke...A catholic, Jew and a Muslim are building an airplane...
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