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Airports And Preparation For The 787/A350

Thu Mar 15, 2007 6:58 am

Many airlines are starting to look towards replacing their 767 fleets. However, there is an issue:
How will airports prepare for the 787/A350? The main problem is that the 787-8, 787-9, and all A350s require larger gates. The 787-3 has been a slow seller, only selling so far to Japanese airlines. Some gates are not wide enough to get 787-8s/-9s or A350s. For example, at ATL, only Concourse E features gates wide enough. While Delta will probably keep some 767-300ERs for domestic routes in the short term, they will need to be replaced in the long term. Delta is considered a likely customer for the 787. While the upcoming Concourse F will add a few new international gates, it still won't be enough to handle all of Delta's combined international/domestic widebody traffic. Perhaps in the future, the airport planners at ATL will need to widen some gates at Concourse T, which is used by many of Delta's domestic widebody aircraft.

Does anyone know of other airports that may run into the same issue?
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RE: Airports And Preparation For The 787/A350

Thu Mar 15, 2007 7:13 am

SAN is apparently in the very early stages of a 10-gate expansion (of the West side of T2-West) which will allegedly contain about 3 gates that will be 787-ready. There seems to be very little (read: no) publicity on this (don't want to rouse any public ire about Lindbergh Field  Wink ) so a completion date is unknown. I don't think it's possible that the new gates will be ready by the time someone would first be able or willing to bring 787s to our fair city...

Most of us SAN-ophiles here on A.net are hopeful that we will (eventually) see some 787s on some very exciting new (international) routes to and from San Diego! We can always hope. (We're pretty good at that...)

Good topic 1337'. I look forward to reports from other places.

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RE: Airports And Preparation For The 787/A350

Thu Mar 15, 2007 7:16 am

So will gates that handle the 777 and 747 not be able to handle the 787?
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RE: Airports And Preparation For The 787/A350

Thu Mar 15, 2007 7:20 am

Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 2):
So will gates that handle the 777 and 747 not be able to handle the 787?

They'll be fine.

Also, airlines will be able to stagger widebodies and narrowbodies - or even RJs - in adjacent gates in some cases to maximize gate usage.
 
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RE: Airports And Preparation For The 787/A350

Thu Mar 15, 2007 7:26 am

Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 2):
So will gates that handle the 777 and 747 not be able to handle the 787?

777 and 747 gates will be able to handle 787s and A350s fine. The gates in question are the existing 767 gates. Also, DC-10, A300, and A310 gates will also not be able to handle A350s or 787s (except for the 787-3).

I wonder if any of the AA gates at SJU, which receive many A300s, are wide enough to get 787s.
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RE: Airports And Preparation For The 787/A350

Thu Mar 15, 2007 7:32 am

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 4):
777 and 747 gates will be able to handle 787s and A350s fine.

Ahh.. okay.. I hope more airlines opts for some P2P using the 787
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RE: Airports And Preparation For The 787/A350

Thu Mar 15, 2007 7:43 am

I'm sorry ERJ' (I don't know if you were asking about SAN or ATL or any place in particular), but as far is SAN is concerned, I was talking about NEW construction and didn't explain well at all. Yes, our int'l arrivals gates, 20 and 21, can certainly handle one (or 2?) 787s so SAN would be ready for some service even tomorrow! My bad...

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RE: Airports And Preparation For The 787/A350

Thu Mar 15, 2007 8:01 am

Also, LGA can handle 767s but not 787-8s/9s. However, the number of widebody aircraft that Delta flies into LGA is declining, so I don't see any gate expansion there.
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RE: Airports And Preparation For The 787/A350

Thu Mar 15, 2007 12:48 pm

Quoting SANFan (Reply 1):

Most of us SAN-ophiles here on A.net are hopeful that we will (eventually) see some 787s on some very exciting new (international) routes to and from San Diego! We can always hope. (We're pretty good at that...)

I'm a closet SANophile! C'mon: NW 787 SAN-ATH! It could happen...  goodvibes