bravogolf
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767 Bird Strike At ORD

Sat Mar 17, 2007 10:42 pm

Does anyone have further information on this?



http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=local&id=5129229
 
777fan
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RE: 767 Bird Strike At ORD

Sat Mar 17, 2007 10:53 pm

Yeah, I had posted a link from yesterday's Chicago Tribune but it was magically deleted for some reason...

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airfinair
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RE: 767 Bird Strike At ORD

Sat Mar 17, 2007 11:04 pm

The ABC7 article you posted has as much info as you're going to find. What further info are you looking for?
BTW: UA 853 ORD / Sbgr Engine Failure Right Now (by 87GROUNDED Mar 16 2007 in Civil Aviation)
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bravogolf
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RE: 767 Bird Strike At ORD

Sat Mar 17, 2007 11:09 pm

Quoting Airfinair (Reply 2):
The ABC7 article you posted has as much info as you're going to find. What further info are you looking for?

The Type and extent of damage done to the engines. The type of birds hit. It is migration time in this area and we are seeing flocks of migrating birds adound the south tip of Lake Michigan.
 
airfinair
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RE: 767 Bird Strike At ORD

Sat Mar 17, 2007 11:36 pm

I have seen quite a few large flocks of Canadian Geese migrating around Chicago lately. From what I have read they were "large birds." Other than geese, I'd guess they could have also have been cormorants, although I'm not sure if cormorants flock together when migrating. Are there other large birds that flock together and are currently migrating through the Chicago area now?

As far as engine damage, other than someone from UAL chiming in, we'd have to guess that one engine was pretty much destroyed, and the other one, which IIRC may have only ingested one bird, was in a repairable condition.

What scares me is that they could have just as easily lost both engines. And with a full load of fuel for the flight to San Paulo, things could have been pretty disastrous.
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bravogolf
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RE: 767 Bird Strike At ORD

Sat Mar 17, 2007 11:48 pm

The Canada Geese are indeed migrating in the Chicago area at this time. My question about the types of birds are due to the fact migrating birds are normally on the ground at night. It is interesting to watch them come up from the south, circle the area that was the south tip of Lake Michigan 10,000 years ago and then head west.
 
airfinair
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RE: 767 Bird Strike At ORD

Sun Mar 18, 2007 12:17 am

Quoting BravoGolf (Reply 5):
My question about the types of birds are due to the fact migrating birds are normally on the ground at night.

Actually I think you'll find that most of the migration does happen at night. Some people think its because most of the birds predators are active at night, not during the day. I did a really quick search and found this:

"...but great numbers of these birds also pass through at night; the calls of Canada Geese or the conversational gabbling of flocks of ducks are common night sounds in spring and fall in many parts of the country. Observations made with telescopes focused on the full moon have shown processions of birds, and one observer estimated thier passage over his area at the rate of 9,000 per hour. This gives some indication of the numbers of birds in the air at night during migratory peaks. Radar observations have shown that nocturnal migration begins about an hour after sundown, reaches a maximum shortly before midnight, and then gradually declines until daybreak. Bird echoes during peak migration periods may cover a radar screen."

http://www.npwrc.usgs.gov/resource/birds/migratio/when.htm

I'm also pretty sure that the FAA is in the process of installing or updating radar specifically to find migrating birds in and around airports across the country, especially at night where you can't see them in your flight path.

http://www.faa.gov/news/press_releases/news_story.cfm?newsId=6503

It sounds like you're located in the southern Chicago area. You may be interested in visiting the Jasper-Pulaski Fish & Wildlife Area in Medarville, IN, to see the huge flocks of sandhill cranes, sometimes numbering 30,000 birds, that make their way through our area. Worth the visit in the fall for a different sort of "spotting."

http://chicagowildernessmag.org/issues/fall2006/wejasperpulaski.html
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bravogolf
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RE: 767 Bird Strike At ORD

Sun Mar 18, 2007 12:28 am

Maybe we should require them to squawk 1200.  Smile
 
airfinair
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RE: 767 Bird Strike At ORD

Sun Mar 18, 2007 1:06 am

Quoting BravoGolf (Reply 7):
Maybe we should require them to squawk 1200.

Very good! LOL.

Bird talk aside, I'd also like to know the extent of the damage to the engines. Anyone?
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luke7e7
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RE: 767 Bird Strike At ORD

Sun Mar 18, 2007 11:08 am

Quoting Airfinair (Reply 8):

Trust me, the way it sounded when it happened it must be destroyed. The flame was pretty long to.
 
deltal1011man
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RE: 767 Bird Strike At ORD

Sun Mar 18, 2007 11:25 am

UA has P&Ws on there 763ERs right?
New airliners.net web site sucks.