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OO Says Sorry To Pax Who Had To Urinate In Bag

Sun Mar 18, 2007 12:49 am

I thought this was kind of funny. OO apologized to a passenger who said he wasn't allowed to use the restroom during a one-hour flight and ended up urinating in an air-sickness bag.
James Whipple said he had two "really big beers" at BOI. While on a flight to Salt Lake City on March 7, he wanted to use the lav but the captain declared it off-limits during the short flight because a light wasn't working.

http://www.sltrib.com/business/ci_5458523
 
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Sun Mar 18, 2007 12:57 am

I feel sorry for the guy. You don't always know when you're gonna have to go (true, he had big beers, but I'm sure he also expected to be able to use a restroom in flight since you customarily can). He actually did the most sanitary thing possible, and yet they called the police on him.

I was on a Delta Connection (CRJ) flight recently and the only lavatory was out of order. Fortunately it was only a 90 minute flight, but sometimes nature calls urgently when you don't expect it. I think it is shameful that the cost of my flight was over $400 and yet the airline could not provide a reasonable level of passenger comfort.

Plus, what if there were an infant or small child on board that needed to be changed? You can't exactly tell them to "hold it."

I am almost afraid to fly now if I have the slightest stomach discomfort for fear that I will NEED to "go" in flight and not be allowed to. Yet I can't cancel....
 
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Sun Mar 18, 2007 1:23 am

Uh, the article does not contain the word 'sorry', or make any mention of the airline apologizing, besides the title.

There are also several statements in this article that are very uneducated, but apparently newsworthy.
First:

But a SkyWest spokeswoman also said Whipple wanted to use the bathroom while the "fasten seat belt" light was illuminated, which is against Federal Aviation Administration regulations.

"For a pilot to declare a lavatory inoperable for a one-hour flight is acceptable to the FAA," Federal Aviation Administration spokesman Mike Fergus said.

"The safety of our passengers is of the utmost importance to SkyWest, and as such we expect all our employees to adhere to those federal regulations," Suite-Mangum said.
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If the FAA guy really knew his regulations, then he would know that it is IN the regulations that the aircraft is to be operated within the limitation of the MEL. If the MEL for the broken lightbulb in the lav was what deferred the lav, then the lav cannot be used during the operation of the aircraft.

The spokeswoman knows what she's talking about.

Second:

"It's very wrong for them to put a commercial airliner in the air if it's not in complete working order, regardless of whether [the problem] is a lavatory, or a tire, or anything. We are paying customers, and we put our lives in their hands to fly," he said.

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I guess we shouldn't tell passengers that our GPS and FMS is broken today, so we'll have to use "GASP!" ground-based navigation.

If the crew had to tell passengers what was broken on a plane, they might as well throw the passengers a dictionary, the MEL book, SOP book, and AFM, since it would take too much time for us to tell them the how's and why's of why a system is needed in the first place.
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Sun Mar 18, 2007 1:24 am

Another thing: It would have been appropriate on my flight (mentioned above) for an announcement to have been made in the gate area alerting passengers that the onboard restroom was out of order and to take care of any "needs" before boarding.
 
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Sun Mar 18, 2007 1:28 am

Quoting Goldenshield (Reply 2):
Uh, the article does not contain the word 'sorry', or make any mention of the airline apologizing, besides the title.

did you read the first paragraph?

Quoting Goldenshield (Reply 2):
If the MEL for the broken lightbulb in the lav was what deferred the lav, then the lav cannot be used during the operation of the aircraft.

that's insane. take a cell phone. flip it open. plenty of light. improvisation is one of nature's greatest gifts.
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Sun Mar 18, 2007 1:38 am

Quoting STLGph (Reply 4):
did you read the first paragraph?

Stupid IE. I did search for 'apol' and it found nothing. The first paragraph is usually sensationalizing hype anymore anyway.

Quoting STLGph (Reply 4):
take a cell phone. flip it open. plenty of light. improvisation is one of nature's greatest gifts.

Blame the feds. They and manufacturer wrote the MMEL to the fed's satisfaction, and then approved it, and also enforce it's adherance.
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Sun Mar 18, 2007 1:43 am

Quoting STLGph (Reply 4):

that's insane. take a cell phone. flip it open. plenty of light. improvisation is one of nature's greatest gifts.

And the regulations on cell phones while in flight? Off. Some people use airplane mode, I know. Plain and simple though, the regulations are clear, and had something happened to this guy in the lav due to no light being on there is quite a potential law suit there. People sue for any and everything these days.
 
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Sun Mar 18, 2007 1:45 am

I would have used it anyway, especially if the outcome would have been the same in both cases. What the hell are they going to do? Divert the flight because the pax had to use the restroom? I guess that's possible. Is the captain going to go back into the main cabin and slap the pax on the wrist for not abiding by his rules? Never say never.
 
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RE: OO Says Sorry To Pax Who Had To Urinate In Bag

Sun Mar 18, 2007 1:46 am

Quoting STLGph (Reply 4):
that's insane. take a cell phone. flip it open. plenty of light. improvisation is one of nature's greatest gifts.

You can also blame the lawsuit-happy nation we live in. Let's say the guy got up to use the lav (while the seatbelt sign was on. no-less), was standing there peeing in the dark, when they hit a little rough patch of turbulence and he can't see where to grab to keep himself from falling. What's going to be his next move? That's right...he'll get a lawyer and sue the airline for his injuries because he was "forced" to use the restroom in the dark...

We have no one to blame but our fellow Americans for some of the stupid policies that have to be enforced these days thanks to morons trying to make a quick buck.
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RE: OO Says Sorry To Pax Who Had To Urinate In Bag

Sun Mar 18, 2007 2:45 am

Quoting 102IAHexpress (Thread starter):
I thought this was kind of funny. OO apologized to a passenger who said he wasn't allowed to use the restroom during a one-hour flight and ended up urinating in an air-sickness bag.

That's really taking the piss!  rotfl 
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RE: OO Says Sorry To Pax Who Had To Urinate In Bag

Sun Mar 18, 2007 2:48 am

Quoting Goldenshield (Reply 5):
Stupid IE. I did search for 'apol' and it found nothing. The first paragraph is usually sensationalizing hype anymore anyway.

haha my good fellow poster! :p

Quoting Goldenshield (Reply 5):
Blame the feds. They and manufacturer wrote the MMEL to the fed's satisfaction, and then approved it, and also enforce it's adherance.



Quoting Xpfg (Reply 6):
People sue for any and everything these days.

can you hear Sharon Stone saying it now ... "what are you going to do, charge me with going to the bathroom?"
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RE: OO Says Sorry To Pax Who Had To Urinate In Bag

Sun Mar 18, 2007 2:52 am

Quoting 102IAHexpress (Thread starter):
OO apologized to a passenger who said he wasn't allowed to use the restroom during a one-hour flight and ended up urinating in an air-sickness bag.

Wow, thats great!!!! Funny stuff.

Its still more dignified that the time my dad and I were stuck on a plane on the ground for 5 hours in BOS trying to get back to LAX. We had "Vomit Bag Puppet Masterpiece theater". We basically made puppets out of the vomit bags. But hell after 5 hours of them not letting us off the plane, we got really bored.

But seriously, I guess when you gotta go, you gotta go.  Silly
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RE: OO Says Sorry To Pax Who Had To Urinate In Bag

Sun Mar 18, 2007 3:31 am

Did OO also apologize to the passengers sitting next to the guy that pee'd into the barf bag??  Confused
 
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Sun Mar 18, 2007 3:40 am

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 12):
Did OO also apologize to the passengers sitting next to the guy that pee'd into the barf bag??

Good question. I presume so.

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Sun Mar 18, 2007 5:56 am

The airline absolutely should have appologized....afterall, they took him down to the bar, and forced 2 "Giant" beers down his throat, then they forced him onto the plane. Give me a break! Maybe had he been in the boarding area rather than the bar, he would have heard the announcement that the Lav was going to be unavailable. But, in America, we never hold people responsible for their own actions and choices. He'll probably sue and get a huge settlement.
 
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Sun Mar 18, 2007 7:07 am

Good thing all he needed to do was take a leak, and not having "gastric distress"!
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Sun Mar 18, 2007 7:11 am

Quoting Ah414211 (Reply 14):
The airline absolutely should have appologized....afterall, they took him down to the bar, and forced 2 "Giant" beers down his throat, then they forced him onto the plane. Give me a break! Maybe had he been in the boarding area rather than the bar, he would have heard the announcement that the Lav was going to be unavailable. But, in America, we never hold people responsible for their own actions and choices. He'll probably sue and get a huge settlement.

You must be kidding ....are you saying that the passenger is at fault here because he had to pee? And that the passenger was unreasonable in expecting that there would be a lav on the airplane. You cant be serious. So the guy had a few beers before boarding.......nothing wrong with that, just about every airport has bars conveniently located near the departure gates.....you are making it sound as if the pax did something wrong by drinking before flying.

Dispatching an aircraft without a working lav is very bad form.....please dont make this the pax fault. Only on a.net can a humorous story such as this be turned into something controversial.
 
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Sun Mar 18, 2007 7:59 am

How big were those beers?

He said he used the bathroom in the terminal, then used the bathroom while the plane was stopped during the taxi to the runway. And yet he couldn't hold it for a 67 minute flight? The overzealous airport police (12 officers surrounding him when he got off the plane) sound like they don't have enough work themselves.
 
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RE: OO Says Sorry To Pax Who Had To Urinate In Bag

Sun Mar 18, 2007 8:19 am

Quoting Ah414211 (Reply 14):
But, in America, we never hold people responsible for their own actions and choices.

It wasn't in America, but when I was eleven my mother and I were flying in a DH 89 Dragon Rapide - a twin engine bi-plane for those who don't know it - from Beirut to Amman to join my father who was working there.

We were warned at Beirut Airport that the plane had no lav, so I used the bathroom twice before we left.

I was eleven. I was very excited - the first time I had flown this sort of aircraft over this sort of country. And, half way through, I had to pee. I mean, I had to pee.

There was a kind of solution - my mother had a plastic beaker in her bag - we travelled ready for almost anything in those days - and I used that and put it on the floor.

Problem solved? Not quite.

The plane landed, and, being that sort of aircraft, the tail went went down as we touched the ground. My mother told the staff what had happened, and everyone was very kind to me, and made no fuss about it.

Except - the plane was covered with canvas, and as I walked away from the aircraft I could see my pee dripping from the belly onto the ground.

I was even more embarrassed when one of the airline ground staff bought the beaker - washed and dried - to my mother.

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RE: OO Says Sorry To Pax Who Had To Urinate In Bag

Sun Mar 18, 2007 9:39 am

ok am i the only one amazed that he could pee into a barf bag and it didnt disintergrate? HOw strong are these bags anyway? Never seen one in use so no experience (thankfully!!!) with what they can hold.
 
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RE: OO Says Sorry To Pax Who Had To Urinate In Bag

Sun Mar 18, 2007 9:57 am

Quoting Ah414211 (Reply 14):
The airline absolutely should have appologized....afterall, they took him down to the bar, and forced 2 "Giant" beers down his throat, then they forced him onto the plane. Give me a break! Maybe had he been in the boarding area rather than the bar, he would have heard the announcement that the Lav was going to be unavailable. But, in America, we never hold people responsible for their own actions and choices. He'll probably sue and get a huge settlement.

I totally agree with you. I would never think of drinking two beers before boarding a plane, then another soft drink on board. Even when lavatories are in working order, they are not always accessible in the case of such an emergency. Safer not to fill up one's bladder before a flight, I'd say!
 
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Sun Mar 18, 2007 10:33 am

Great Story Mariner  Smile

All I'm saying is that he maybe should have planned a little better. I've flown the BOI-SLC route hundreds of times and flight time ranges anywhere from 37-45 minutes on average, so more often than not the seat-belt sign is never turned off. I never plan on being able to use the lavatory, therefore, I never have 2 really big beers before boarding. A child, I could understand, but an adult should maybe have thought about that second beer before the flight.
 
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Sun Mar 18, 2007 10:44 am

Quoting Ah414211 (Reply 21):
but an adult should maybe have thought about that second beer before the flight.

Of course, I agree. The point of the story really was just to say that accidents do happen, and to show the difference between how the airline staff reacted then - and how this f/a reacted now.

I remember to this day how embarassed I was when it was all "discovered" so I can imagine how an adult man would feel. This guy has my sympathy.

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RE: OO Says Sorry To Pax Who Had To Urinate In Bag

Sun Mar 18, 2007 1:23 pm

I take diuretic blood pressure tablets and sometimes I HAVE to go within 30 minutes of getting on a plane, i can't imagine what it must be like to be told you just can't go! i would literally piss my pants.
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RE: OO Says Sorry To Pax Who Had To Urinate In Bag

Sun Mar 18, 2007 1:39 pm

Quoting JayDub (Reply 8):
You can also blame the lawsuit-happy nation we live in. Let's say the guy got up to use the lav (while the seatbelt sign was on. no-less), was standing there peeing in the dark, when they hit a little rough patch of turbulence and he can't see where to grab to keep himself from falling. What's going to be his next move? That's right...he'll get a lawyer and sue the airline for his injuries because he was "forced" to use the restroom in the dark...

Oy ve...

Quoting JayDub (Reply 8):
We have no one to blame but our fellow Americans for some of the stupid policies that have to be enforced these days thanks to morons trying to make a quick buck.

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After reading Mariner's anecdote about his ordeal, I have one of my own. One that was very recent at that, like this past Wednesday...

My girlfriend and I were on US 1566 coming back to Philadelphia from a 5 day family visit to Pittsburgh. I never have to use the lavs at all when we fly, but right when we began our final descent, nature decided to call, and I mean CALL! I don't know if any of us on here have seen the episode of Family Guy where they stop at that Indian Casino en route to New York so that Peter could use the restroom, but that's kinda how I felt. Only I had to go No. 1...

We finally land, after what seemed to be a 6-hour descent. We're standing waiting for the door to open and for us to deplane. Luckily we're seated near the front. I was standing there thinking to myself, "hold it... hooold it... hooooold it." Then the door opened and I took off for the races. Luckily the restroom was just across the terminal from the gate. My girlfriend and I ultimately had a good laugh about that later  Smile

I am not too sure if we can use the lavs while on final approach. Given the security constraints, I don't want to test that. My luck, I'd get up to use it, and wind up in an interogating room...

And I guess it's quite obvious; I don't fly much... But I am getting there!
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RE: OO Says Sorry To Pax Who Had To Urinate In Bag

Sun Mar 18, 2007 1:39 pm

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 16):
You must be kidding ....are you saying that the passenger is at fault here because he had to pee? And that the passenger was unreasonable in expecting that there would be a lav on the airplane. You cant be serious. So the guy had a few beers before boarding.......nothing wrong with that, just about every airport has bars conveniently located near the departure gates.....you are making it sound as if the pax did something wrong by drinking before flying.

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Well, couldn't there have been compromise on both sides? I mean instead of blaming the airliner or the passenger vehemently...

Yes stuff happens and he had to go to the loo, which was declared off-limits, but couldn't the FA's after discussing the direness of his situation with the captain, after handing him some sort of flash-light (or any light producing device) or even asked him to use the lav to urinate keeping the door open and most importantly informing him that an exception is being made for him and he indemnifies the airline that he will not sue them for anything that happens in the loo, since he knew it isn't working, allowed him to use it in some way and avoided this major faux-pas?
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Sun Mar 18, 2007 1:46 pm

Now maybe it is just me, but because the media story is all encompasing, how do we know that the airline did not announce at the gate prior to departure that the lavatory was out of service. Having been in the airline industry for a few years we announced inop lavs prior to boarding. But maybe, just maybe, this didn't make it to the paper to add to the slandering of Skywest. Just a thought.

Not that I'm sticking up for Skywest, but lets say that they did announce an inop lav at the gate, and this guy had a couple beers in him, well, its not like it is the airline's fault that this guy wanted to drink and fly, is it? It's not like they forced him to drink. Anyway, I always love articles like these, accusing an airline of doing wrong.

I'm surprised that an article like this never came up againt Air Midwest and their B1900s. With no lav on board at all, how many passengers peed in bags and never complained, or did complain, and never got attention?

Just some thoughts.

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RE: OO Says Sorry To Pax Who Had To Urinate In Bag

Sun Mar 18, 2007 2:05 pm

Quoting Qantas787 (Reply 23):
I take diuretic blood pressure tablets and sometimes I HAVE to go

One of my grandfather's had to take those and his experience was similiar.

Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 24):
I am not too sure if we can use the lavs while on final approach.

Never on final approach, since the aircraft is maneuvering and the seatbelt sign is always on.
 
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Sun Mar 18, 2007 2:20 pm

The very first flight I was on was with DL from BHM-ATL. No sooner did we take off than I had to whiz something fierce. After what seemed an eternity, the captain came on the PA and said "We have reached cruising altitude and will be turning off the 'fasten seatbelt' signs". I jumped up and made a dash for the lavs, and had just seen that both were occupied when the captain came on the PA and said "We're beginning our descent into Atlanta Hartsfield airport and we will now turn the 'fasten seatbelt' sign on". Before I could even look around, an F/A was at my side telling me to return to my seat! Fortunately at that very moment one of the lavs opened up and I was able to tell her "I'll be happy to in just a minute..." as I shut the lav door.

As others have said, sometimes when you've got to go, you've GOT TO GO!
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Sun Mar 18, 2007 2:33 pm

Quoting MD-90 (Reply 27):
Never on final approach, since the aircraft is maneuvering and the seatbelt sign is always on.

I recently flew US Airways from SJU to PHL and due to weather and landing holds in PHL, we were circling around PHL for like 40 mins. I had to use the lav really bad and I just got up in front of the flight attendant (seated on jump seat) and used it while the fasten seat belt sign was on and no one said a word to me...

From my perspective, flight attendants are usually very understanding and they're not goin to bar u from using the lav even while the fasten seat belt sign is on.
 
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Sun Mar 18, 2007 3:30 pm

On a recent flight from SMF-HNL literally 5 seconds before we were to start our takeoff roll, a female passenger stood up and tried to enter the lav. I was shocked, but my fellow F/A told her to sit down since were about to takeoff...

The Passenger's response before she sat:

"I am PREGNANT, and if I pee on myself YOOOOOUUUUUU are gonna clean it up."

People can be unreasonable sometimes...and sometimes you JUST HAVE TO HOLD IT!!!!

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RE: OO Says Sorry To Pax Who Had To Urinate In Bag

Sun Mar 18, 2007 7:11 pm

No one was really hurt right? So why making a story out of nothing.

Things can brake or mail function so these things happen, but also, you have to go several times within an hour because of no reason. I can only imagine how the passenger would have felt when he heard he couldn't use the lav.

It frustrates me sometimes when I have to travel for work or something with the car. You go to the lav at home just to be sure but after driving 30 minutes you get in a traffic jam with no place to go for a few miles.. Bells inside you are ringing and you just can hold it any longer. problem with these kind of things is that you are thinking about it so the feeling isn't going away. I really hate those moments  Smile.
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Sun Mar 18, 2007 7:59 pm

Quoting Motech722 (Reply 26):
Having been in the airline industry for a few years we announced inop lavs prior to boarding. But maybe, just maybe, this didn't make it to the paper to add to the slandering of Skywest. Just a thought.

Exactly. I have made that announcement several times myself. Any time I am advised that the LAV is INOP, I announce it at least 3 times prior to boarding. That is standard procedure, and I would guess that those announcements were made here, if they knew about it ahead of time. I'm also guessing that this passenger happened to be in the bar finishing his beer when those announcements were made.

Bottom line is that no one was hurt....and it sounds like it could have been handled better by both sides, but life goes on!
 
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Sun Mar 18, 2007 10:10 pm

Quoting Goldenshield (Reply 2):
"For a pilot to declare a lavatory inoperable for a one-hour flight is acceptable to the FAA," Federal Aviation Administration spokesman Mike Fergus said.

But unfortunately not acceptable to full bladders!

Quoting 767Lover (Reply 3):
Another thing: It would have been appropriate on my flight (mentioned above) for an announcement to have been made in the gate area alerting passengers that the onboard restroom was out of order and to take care of any "needs" before boarding.

Absolutely! But he was likely so full of beer, I'm not sure this would have turned out differently.

Quoting Ah414211 (Reply 14):
The airline absolutely should have appologized....afterall, they took him down to the bar, and forced 2 "Giant" beers down his throat, then they forced him onto the plane.

There's nothing wrong with going to the airport bar and sucking down a couple of cold ones before flight. That's what the bars are there for. You would have to go down the chain and blame the airport for having a bar in the first place in order to hold true to that point of view.
It is normal to have the expectation of being able to take a mid-flight whizz in the lav. An apology for the broken lav is in order, it would be the correct thing to do...I mean, what would you do if you were going to pee all over yourself?
 
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Sun Mar 18, 2007 11:19 pm

Quoting MD-90 (Reply 27):
Never on final approach, since the aircraft is maneuvering and the seatbelt sign is always on.

That's what I thought. Although MOEK2000 thinks otherwise. Still, even with the pilot performing approach maneuvers, and given that the flight in general was a bit bumpy due to foul weather, I wouldn't have wanted to use the lav anyway.
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Mon Mar 19, 2007 1:43 am

Hopefully OO had the common courtesy of warning the passengers before boarding that the lav was inop.... but then again even if they did Mr. "2 big beers in Boise" was probably at the bar and didn't hear it anyways.
 
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RE: OO Says Sorry To Pax Who Had To Urinate In Bag

Mon Mar 19, 2007 2:41 am

Quoting Smashme33 (Reply 33):
An apology for the broken lav is in order

An apology is also in order for the way the F/A and the captain handled the situation. If I was the F/A I would have politely asked him to pour his urine bag down the lav and given him a trash bag to dispose of it. I would also apologize to him again for the inop lav. This could have been done descretely without even informing the captain. I think that flight crew often get too caught up in the "we are here for your safety" crap and forget that they work in a SERVICE industry. What in the hell was calling the police going to accomplish? Why can't people excersise common sense and try to resove the situation as easily as possible without literally making a federal case out of it!
 
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RE: OO Says Sorry To Pax Who Had To Urinate In Bag

Mon Mar 19, 2007 3:32 am

Quoting MD-90 (Reply 17):
How big were those beers?

Yeah, multiple pit stops and still legally intoxicated after 1.5 hours. Must have been monster beers.
Enough about flying lets talk about me!
 
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RE: OO Says Sorry To Pax Who Had To Urinate In Bag

Mon Mar 19, 2007 2:51 pm

in the future this will be required of all passengers
for security reasons of course.
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