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Aer Lingus: Dublin To San Francisco

Wed Mar 21, 2007 2:14 am

Looks like we are getting closer to an official announcement on this.

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Aer Lingus will connect the two cities with a new non-stop service starting in the autumn.

Minister Cullen unveiled the new route during a meeting with the Mayor of San Francisco, Gavin Newsom, as part of an official St Patrick's Day visit to the USA.

http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/breaking/2007/0316/breaking78.htm
 
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RE: Aer Lingus: Dublin To San Francisco

Wed Mar 21, 2007 2:31 am

Congradulations to Aer Lingus! Those green birds will look quite nice there too I think.
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RE: Aer Lingus: Dublin To San Francisco

Wed Mar 21, 2007 2:39 am

What a surprize, SJC loses out to SFO again. San Jose should drop its so called sister-city relation with Dublin. Shannon would be more appropriate. I guess we can wait like 20 years when SFO becomes slot restricted to get an international destination besides Mexico.
 
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RE: Aer Lingus: Dublin To San Francisco

Wed Mar 21, 2007 2:49 am

That's going to make my journeys from DUB to YVR much nicer. Instead of going from LHR I can do a SFO run and then hop up home that way.
Great news.
Best of luck to EI on this new route .....and here's to many (well, at least two) more long haul announcements this year !
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RE: Aer Lingus: Dublin To San Francisco

Wed Mar 21, 2007 7:11 am

Hopefully we will see an announcement from the airline when the new A330s arrive.
 
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RE: Aer Lingus: Dublin To San Francisco

Wed Mar 21, 2007 7:41 am

SWEET. I'm transferring home to SFO in 4 weeks. I look forward to seeing Shamrock there. I have for years!!!

EI has a non-rev in me!

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RE: Aer Lingus: Dublin To San Francisco

Wed Mar 21, 2007 8:45 am

I hope Miami follows this as the next US destination from Dublin.
 
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RE: Aer Lingus: Dublin To San Francisco

Wed Mar 21, 2007 9:55 am

Quoting EI321 (Reply 8):

I'd love to see EI here at MIA! But do you think the route will really be profitable?

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RE: Aer Lingus: Dublin To San Francisco

Wed Mar 21, 2007 10:33 am

Quoting AH332 (Reply 9):
do you think the route will really be profitable?

Not sure what the demand is in the winter months. I would assume the summer months would be a huge boost for EI.

What with all the builders off in July/August, heading over across the pond to catch some rays !!!!!!!
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RE: Aer Lingus: Dublin To San Francisco

Wed Mar 21, 2007 10:39 am

Quoting Eirjet (Reply 10):
What with all the builders off in July/August, heading over across the pond to catch some rays !!!!!!!

Catching rays in San Francisco???

Quoting EI321 (Reply 8):
I hope Miami follows this as the next US destination from Dublin.

Could happen.


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1. I assume that this flight will operate with A332 equipment?

2. Does the DUB-LAX flight still operate and/or will it be effected by the new SFO service?

3. Whats the deal with the SNN stopover on the new SFO-DUB flights??
 
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RE: Aer Lingus: Dublin To San Francisco

Wed Mar 21, 2007 12:31 pm

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 11):
1. I assume that this flight will operate with A332 equipment?

2. Does the DUB-LAX flight still operate and/or will it be effected by the new SFO service?

3. Whats the deal with the SNN stopover on the new SFO-DUB flights??

Good morning, Dutchjet:

1. I think so. There is a new A330-300 on order, but that (for reasons best known to EI) is also a -301 model, so it won't have the range for DUB-SFO.

2. DUB-LAX certainly does operate still and indeed, it is being increased for the Summer. It remains to be seen what effect DUB-SFO has on this; we probably won't know until next Summer, although I expect DUB-SFO to be the more popular route.

3. With the coming into force of the new Open Skies regime, a special "phase-out" period applies to the SNN stopover, which means that from October, the stopover drops from the current 1:1 (i.e. one flight from SNN for every one, n/s, from DUB) to 3:1, which effectively means that EI can treble the number of n/s flights from DUB without increasing capacity ex-SNN. This is based on the total number of flights, not by route, so EI can fly to SFO from DUB without introducing any extra flights ex-SNN.

The "3:1" arrangement only lasts until 2009, whereupon we will have full Open Skies!

Quoting AH332 (Reply 9):
I'd love to see EI here at MIA! But do you think the route will really be profitable?

I think that in time, we may well see EI at MIA; however, I expect that the first Florida service will be to MCO, to which EI operated before it cut the route and flew to DXB. The MCO route was very popular, but it had to be operated as a charter and with the SNN stopover regulations still in force, it was messy; they landed in SNN, but just to satisfy regulations, not to pick up pax. It was silly!

In time, I would expect someone to fly to MIA from DUB; could be AA or EI; I was thinking - and this is purely speculation on my part - that both flights could be codeshares, with AA flying the MIA route and EI, to DFW. AA has a huge hub at MIA, which would add to its attractiveness and many Irish people have second homes in Florida.
 
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RE: Aer Lingus: Dublin To San Francisco

Wed Mar 21, 2007 1:48 pm

Quoting SJCRRPAX (Reply 3):
What a surprize, SJC loses out to SFO again.

I feel your pain, SJC'. Following the previous threads about AI looking at the Bay Area, and the optimism expressed at that time by SJC folks (you included of course), I, as always, was rooting for the underdogs. It seemed like kind of a long shot -- a smallish foreign flag choosing the smaller of 2 area airports -- but there did seem a chance.

Sorry. You, as those of us in SAN, can stay hopeful for the arrival of the 787s!

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RE: Aer Lingus: Dublin To San Francisco

Wed Mar 21, 2007 1:55 pm

Quoting Kaitak (Reply 12):
2. DUB-LAX certainly does operate still and indeed, it is being increased for the Summer. It remains to be seen what effect DUB-SFO has on this; we probably won't know until next Summer, although I expect DUB-SFO to be the more popular route.

Theres really no reason why both cant survive. DUB-LAX isnt going anywhere. Were going daily this summer!
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RE: Aer Lingus: Dublin To San Francisco

Wed Mar 21, 2007 3:45 pm

Quoting Kaitak (Reply 12):

I think that in time, we may well see EI at MIA; however, I expect that the first Florida service will be to MCO, to which EI operated before it cut the route and flew to DXB. The MCO route was very popular, but it had to be operated as a charter and with the SNN stopover regulations still in force, it was messy; they landed in SNN, but just to satisfy regulations, not to pick up pax. It was silly!

In time, I would expect someone to fly to MIA from DUB; could be AA or EI; I was thinking - and this is purely speculation on my part - that both flights could be codeshares, with AA flying the MIA route and EI, to DFW. AA has a huge hub at MIA, which would add to its attractiveness and many Irish people have second homes in Florida.

I disagree. Aer Lingus wants to open up Dublin has a prime US<->Europe hub by going into key US<->Europe markets. Orlando is not one of them. Orlando doesn't offer the originating traffic to Europe that Miami does, even though I would assume the Ireland-->Orlando market is larger. It also isn't as great yielding a market. In fact, to Europe, it is a pretty poor performing market. Orlando performed poorly the first time around, no reason to think it will suddenly do better. Orlando-Europe is, after all, largely a charter market in the first place. The flight, IIRC, never stopped in Shannon. It was a charter, and was not regulated by the SNN stopover rule. I am 95% sure it was always MCO-DUB-MCO.

I wouldn't rule out Aer Lingus returning to Orlando, it is very possible, but I think we will see Philadelphia and Miami next.

[Edited 2007-03-21 08:49:19]
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RE: Aer Lingus: Dublin To San Francisco

Wed Mar 21, 2007 5:06 pm

EI seem hell bent on trying to work their way through American cities, with some strange view of the world.

BWI - EI tried twice, good loads but profitability perhaps weak, a better and probably cheaper airport than IAD (rumoured replacement) with additional possibility of meeting needs of passengers in Philadelphia area, with close road and rail links, while IAD is near nowhere else really, except N Virginia / Maryland fringe, so Washington is the point of demand. I travel there very frequently, and EI seem to have very few others using the EI JFK / AA Eagle connection at present, the obvious route with EI, suggesting that actual demand is weak here. Few sane regular business travellers would route by LHR (hell) and clear US immigration at IAD (notoriously bad). Dumped first for 9/11, later to serve MCO.

MCO - the ultimate bucket and spade, low yield, location with no transit or business traffic whatever. What logic was this?

MIA - a touch of the same as MCO, intense competition on price with European airlines, but the hope of some transit traffic to Latin America, regularly features as most disliked airport in the USA, delay prone, visa requirements for transit passengers to S America, compared with a transit in Madrid / AMS etc being free of this hassle.

SFO / SJC - Little business traffic, seasonal. Possible impact on LAX service? (Stretching the very small 330-200 fleet too far?)

PHL - VFR market mainly, fair catchment area, but probably better served from JFK / EWR to North, BWI to south and a competitor with a better feed.


PS: I see EI said there was no adverse reaction to the bag charge, perhaps that is because they seem as reluctant as FR to respond or reply to any messages from customers, even those in the mow highly restricted FF programme.
 
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RE: Aer Lingus: Dublin To San Francisco

Wed Mar 21, 2007 7:57 pm

Quoting Dstc47 (Reply 14):
Dstc47

I think Dulles would be a better move than Baltimore. Dallas is also an eventual inevitability.
 
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RE: Aer Lingus: Dublin To San Francisco

Wed Mar 21, 2007 8:06 pm

Quoting AC747 (Reply 3):
That's going to make my journeys from DUB to YVR much nicer.

HA! Yeah...if you don't get trapped in one of those major weather delays due to low clouds and fog that's typical of SFO.

Quoting Eirjet (Reply 8):
What with all the builders off in July/August, heading over across the pond to catch some rays !!!!!!!

Rays???? What kind of rays???? Ultraviolet rays????

Quoting AS739X (Reply 5):
I'm transferring home to SFO in 4 weeks.

Welcome back home!!! What made you decide to go back to SFO? Was your stint in LAX temporary?
 
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RE: Aer Lingus: Dublin To San Francisco

Wed Mar 21, 2007 11:01 pm

Quoting Wedgetail737 (Reply 16):
HA! Yeah...if you don't get trapped in one of those major weather delays due to low clouds and fog that's typical of SFO.

I always find it laughable when people bring up this poor excuse. Someone sitting in Fiji must think SFO is in the Artic with the description people always write. It is bright and sunny here at SFO today and has been for a while. Abeit the Spring shower we had yesterday. The place you should be talking about is back East with the Nor Easterners passing through the past month or two causing hundreds of delays.
 
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RE: Aer Lingus: Dublin To San Francisco

Wed Mar 21, 2007 11:08 pm

Quoting SANFan (Reply 11):
a smallish foreign flag choosing the smaller of 2 area airports -- but there did seem a chance.

You forgot about OAK?!?

SJC is the third busiest airport in the Bay. OAK will most likely get 08 within the next year. I have personally saw reps from BA,LH,CI and BR at SJC over the years and their response to SJC officials was, "Thanks, but no thanks".

EI will compliment SFO growing International traffic quite well. There is a reason why SFO handles 95% of the International traffic into the Bay Area.
 
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RE: Aer Lingus: Dublin To San Francisco

Wed Mar 21, 2007 11:17 pm

Quoting Legacyins (Reply 18):
SJC is the third busiest airport in the Bay. OAK will most likely get 08 within the next year. I have personally saw reps from BA,LH,CI and BR at SJC over the years and their response to SJC officials was, "Thanks, but no thanks".

..the sad thing is SJC is such a great airport to deal with (nonwithstanding a particular A.netter's comments about rental cars being far away in the airport and difficult to get to..)..its very fast and efficient...

..the only problem is that it is too far away from San Francisco itself.....well... its not really too far, but the perception is that its far....

.....if SJC is to compete, they need to offer complementary services to/from SFO-area....at least to/from SFO airport....
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RE: Aer Lingus: Dublin To San Francisco

Thu Mar 22, 2007 12:49 am

I wonder what the feeder traffic on EI into LHR is going to be like? I.e. SFO-DUB-LHR.
 
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RE: Aer Lingus: Dublin To San Francisco

Thu Mar 22, 2007 1:23 am

Quoting BAtriple7 (Reply 20):
I wonder what the feeder traffic on EI into LHR is going to be like? I.e. SFO-DUB-LHR.

I am not sure why anyone would do that when you can take BA or UA nonstop daily from SFO to LHR. Might be in summertime people want to visit Ireland for a few days and make a stop over, certainly not business or the tourists not interested in Ireland, as I have found both BA and UA to have very good rates and service from SFO.
 
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RE: Aer Lingus: Dublin To San Francisco

Thu Mar 22, 2007 2:13 am

This is good news!
I look forward to seeing the green A330 coming in to SFO.
If for no other reason, diversity of aircraft and airline types at SFO.
The only A330 we get is Northwest. That one flies to Asia and therefore I can't see it fly over my house. Flights bound for Europe do fly over my house.

I am biased in favor of United and Virgin Atlantic but Air Lingus wouldn't hurt them too much.
We have a sizable Irish population here in San Francisco. I am sure Air Lingus would do well here.

This also makes it easier for those from Dublin, Ca to get to Dublin, Ireland.  Smile
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RE: Aer Lingus: Dublin To San Francisco

Thu Mar 22, 2007 2:14 am

I wonder if they took a longer look at OAK since that is where B6 is operating and EI and B6 do have an agreement in the works. Would have been a step in the right direction.
 
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RE: Aer Lingus: Dublin To San Francisco

Thu Mar 22, 2007 2:23 am

Quoting SJCRRPAX (Reply 21):
I am not sure why anyone would do that when you can take BA or UA nonstop daily from SFO to LHR. Might be in summertime people want to visit Ireland for a few days and make a stop over, certainly not business or the tourists not interested in Ireland, as I have found both BA and UA to have very good rates and service from SFO.

Well, price would be a big factor. Also, DUB offers US pre-clearance which a lot of people like!
 
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RE: Aer Lingus: Dublin To San Francisco

Thu Mar 22, 2007 2:27 am

I hope that EI can get a few more US / Africa / Asia destinations going and finally offer a proper connecting product between mainland USA / Europe & USA / Asia. The US immigration pre-clearance is a good asset for DUB, they should market it more.
 
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RE: Aer Lingus: Dublin To San Francisco

Thu Mar 22, 2007 2:39 am

Quoting COEI2007 (Reply 24):
Well, price would be a big factor. Also, DUB offers US pre-clearance which a lot of people like!



Unless EI wants to lose money on the flight, I really don't see them under cutting UA or BA, I have gotten real low fares from both of those carriers. Pre-clearance is cool, I've done that from Toronto, I wonder how many people even know that exists from DUB? I bet that would be a tough sell, trying to convience people that it's somehow better to go through DUB on your way to the UK because DUB has pre-clearance on the way back, if anything it sounds like another way to miss a connecting flight. SFO for USA citizens is normally fairly easy, mostly they just like to hassle foreign passport holders, in my experience.
 
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RE: Aer Lingus: Dublin To San Francisco

Thu Mar 22, 2007 2:52 am

Good news to hear.

Though I've always wondered why EI doesn't go to IAD, but rather BWI. I imagine they can get better loads out of IAD with connection opportunities, although IAD isn't a OneWorld hub nor is EI even in OneWorld anymore.  Confused
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RE: Aer Lingus: Dublin To San Francisco

Thu Mar 22, 2007 3:00 am

Quoting Trolle (Reply 23):
I wonder if they took a longer look at OAK since that is where B6 is operating and EI and B6 do have an agreement in the works. Would have been a step in the right direction.

EI choose San Francisco, because everybody loves the San Francisco name. If it wasn't for the San Francisco Name, OAK years ago would have take a significant portion of the International traffic away from SFO, just like the port of Oakland about shut down the Port of San Francisco. I don't see much advantage in a EI being close to B6 at SFO. SFO will most likely be all O/D, I don't see very many people flying to SFO and than heading off to Boston, NYC, Washington, or Florida --- maybe a couple of PAX's with open jaw flights, that's about it.
 
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RE: Aer Lingus: Dublin To San Francisco

Thu Mar 22, 2007 3:19 am

Quoting SJCRRPAX (Reply 28):
SFO will most likely be all O/D, I don't see very many people flying to SFO and than heading off to Boston, NYC, Washington, or Florida --- maybe a couple of PAX's with open jaw flights, that's about it.

True that the majority of the flight might be O&D but there will be those transiting onto QF,NZ and AS to Vancouver. Domestically, SEA,Portland,Reno, Las Vegas ect..
 
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RE: Aer Lingus: Dublin To San Francisco

Thu Mar 22, 2007 3:38 am

Quoting Kaitak (Reply 10):
There is a new A330-300 on order, but that (for reasons best known to EI) is also a -301 model, so it won't have the range for DUB-SFO

Is this really true? I would be very surprised if the new ones were not a -303X and a -203.


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RE: Aer Lingus: Dublin To San Francisco

Thu Mar 22, 2007 3:52 am

Quoting Raggi (Reply 30):
Is this really true? I would be very surprised if the new ones were not a -303X and a -203.

The -200 will be a 203 but the -300 is still down as a 301. No idea why EI would order that.
 
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RE: Aer Lingus: Dublin To San Francisco

Thu Mar 22, 2007 4:04 am

Quoting Legacyins (Reply 29):
True that the majority of the flight might be O&D but there will be those transiting onto QF,NZ and AS to Vancouver. Domestically, SEA,Portland,Reno, Las Vegas ect..



My point was that their was no advantage of being close to B6, since they basically only go to the east coast from OAK. I wonder how many people would choose to go through SFO on the way to New Zeland or Austrailia? You are adding a 1000 miles or more to the trip each way, plus Ireland's population is actually fairly small (around 4 million) as is NZ. So I would think that you would get no connecting traffic through DUB, for example LHR-DUB-SFO-> , since Emeriates probably offers incredible deals out of London, so all of that connecting traffic through SFO would be O/D from DUB which really doesn't have that big of a population base . And would it be worth it for someone to be flying down to San Francisco from Seattle, when they could be flying out toward Chicago, New York or Boston instead? I don't really know, but I would bet that allmost all of the PAX's to SFO would be O&D, it's kind of the curse of the West Coast Airports, PAX's usually don't like to back-track, such as fly east to west change planes and than fly east.
 
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RE: Aer Lingus: Dublin To San Francisco

Thu Mar 22, 2007 4:29 am

I believe the only cities EI has actually publicly mentioned are SFO, MIA , PHL and just recently since the B6 relationship announcement, IAD. Everywhere else is really just press or a-net speculation and an offer from BWI of an $11M incentive versus IAD. Obviously with a lmited number of 332s, they would probably not even be able to serve all of the above for at least 2 more years. Personally (and I live in the general area), I speculate that SFO will turn out to be a very marginal year-round route - at best, after a good startup phase.
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RE: Aer Lingus: Dublin To San Francisco

Thu Mar 22, 2007 4:30 am

Quoting SJCRRPAX (Reply 32):
My point was that their was no advantage of being close to B6, since they basically only go to the east coast from OAK.

I wonder how many people would choose to go through SFO on the way to New Zeland or Austrailia? You are adding a 1000 miles or more to the trip each way, plus Ireland's population is actually fairly small (around 4 million) as is NZ.



So I would think that you would get no connecting traffic through DUB, for example LHR-DUB-SFO-> , since Emeriates probably offers incredible deals out of London, so all of that connecting traffic through SFO would be O/D from DUB which really doesn't have that big of a population base .


And would it be worth it for someone to be flying down to San Francisco from Seattle, when they could be flying out toward Chicago, New York or Boston instead? I don't really know, but I would bet that allmost all of the PAX's to SFO would be O&D, it's kind of the curse of the West Coast Airports, PAX's usually don't like to back-track, such as fly east to west change planes and than fly east.

Again, Ireland doesnt have a large populations, but it doesnt stop us Irish flying a lot, or Americans visiting the Emerald Isle in droves. I dont think EI needs connecting pax from LHR; BA, VS and UA servce SFO from LHR, so EI isnt going to compete. Ireland has a small populations, but it doesnt stop EI, AA, CO, DL and US having succesful Ireland-US flights, as well as AF, KL, VS, BD and BA who all also get Irish people flying through LHR, CDG etc to get to the US!



Ireland's and NZ's populations may be small, but that isnt going to stop a lot of tourims between both countries.


Pax dont like to back-track, but if the price is right, they will. Many pax will fly BOS-EWR-DUB because of price or airline loyalty, so it happens a lot!!!
 
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RE: Aer Lingus: Dublin To San Francisco

Thu Mar 22, 2007 4:35 am

Quoting Vega (Reply 33):
I believe the only cities EI has actually publicly mentioned are SFO, MIA , PHL and just recently since the B6 relationship announcement, IAD.

The cities you mention are the top of the list, EI have had a long term plan to eventually serve the following cities in the Atates (note - I might be missing some):

San Fran
Miami
Philli
Washington
Dallas
St Louis (dont ask me why)
Seattle
Denver
 
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RE: Aer Lingus: Dublin To San Francisco

Thu Mar 22, 2007 4:42 am

Quoting COEI2007 (Reply 24):
Well, price would be a big factor. Also, DUB offers US pre-clearance which a lot of people like!

I've never had really bad waits at immigration at SFO -- certainly not enough to make up for the time lost with a connecting flight -- especially since DUB doesn't really have a true 'transit' setup.

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RE: Aer Lingus: Dublin To San Francisco

Thu Mar 22, 2007 4:52 am

Quoting EI321 (Reply 35):
The cities you mention are the top of the list, EI have had a long term plan to eventually serve the following cities in the Atates (note - I might be missing some):

San Fran
Miami
Philli
Washington
Dallas
St Louis (dont ask me why)
Seattle
Denver

I remember that extended "wish" list on EI's agenda to become the new LHR  wink 
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RE: Aer Lingus: Dublin To San Francisco

Thu Mar 22, 2007 4:55 am

Orlando is No2 on the list, according to the airport (and I'm presuming EI has told them!)

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/busin....story?coll=orl-business-headlines

Quoting Sllevin (Reply 36):
I've never had really bad waits at immigration at SFO -- certainly not enough to make up for the time lost with a connecting flight -- especially since DUB doesn't really have a true 'transit' setup.

DUB, I'm afraid, is going to be the weak link for EI. It is going to be a nightmare next year, with construction of T2 in full swing and the C pier effectively out of action or operating on much fewer stands. Worse still, Cullen (our minister) is talking of "full" Open Skies taking place from next March (remember that we have a transitional period in place); this was not supposed to happen until 2009, but apparently, it will now happen from next March. The hexagonal area at the end of the B pier is where the US pre-clearance facility is located and obviously, that has size limitations. It is going to be a nightmare. They really should be thinking NOW about what to do about this ...
 
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RE: Aer Lingus: Dublin To San Francisco

Thu Mar 22, 2007 5:07 am

Quoting Kaitak (Reply 38):
Orlando is No2 on the list, according to the airport (and I'm presuming EI has told them!)

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/busin...lines

I wonder if this is outside of Open Skies consideration and just a "restart". Particularly since I'd assume they'll use an exisiting 333 (not 332) on this route. Still, it would be difficult to see how they'd do both MCO and MIA. Also, wonder if this is "Seasonal" only?

[Edited 2007-03-21 22:10:51]
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RE: Aer Lingus: Dublin To San Francisco

Thu Mar 22, 2007 5:24 am

I don't think they would do both MIA and MCO; the MCO route, when last operated, was a big success in terms of pax numbers, although it was operated in an awkward way, due to the stopover (had to be a charter and through SNN). This tim, with no silly restrictions, EI should be able to make it work. I hope so.

I doubt if it would be seasonal either; when you experience an Irish Winter, you'll understand that the prospect of a few weeks in Florida is very attractive!
 
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RE: Aer Lingus: Dublin To San Francisco

Thu Mar 22, 2007 5:33 am

It will be great to see EI's A330's at SFO. Now if we can only get something from SAS. That'd be nice.
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RE: Aer Lingus: Dublin To San Francisco

Thu Mar 22, 2007 11:58 am

Any idea on an official announcment date?

Quoting Wedgetail737 (Reply 16):

There are multiple reasons I am returning to SFO. I'll message you

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RE: Aer Lingus: Dublin To San Francisco

Thu Mar 22, 2007 7:30 pm

Just heard an interview with an aviation anaylist that discussed EI's new US routes. The order is:
1. San Fransisco
2. Orlando
3. Washington Dulles............not Philidelphia
 
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RE: Aer Lingus: Dublin To San Francisco

Thu Mar 22, 2007 8:53 pm

Just confirmed, Aer Lingus will launch 3 new routes in Autumn/Winter of 2007

San Fran
Orlando
Dulles

San Fran will be the first one to start in Oct of 2007, witrh the other 2 starting after the end of the summer timetable (so read Nov/Dec start for Orlando and Dulles)

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RE: Aer Lingus: Dublin To San Francisco

Thu Mar 22, 2007 9:01 pm

Terrific news!

We're rolling. It kind of feels like a release of pent-up excitement and relief after so many years of frustration and false starts.
 
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RE: Aer Lingus: Dublin To San Francisco

Sat Mar 24, 2007 2:03 am

Quoting Kaitak (Reply 10):
There is a new A330-300 on order, but that (for reasons best known to EI) is also a -301 model, so it won't have the range for DUB-SFO.

The new A330-300 arriving is a higher weight model and will have the range to make the west coast destinations.

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