eva777sea
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SEA-Asia Loads

Wed Mar 21, 2007 7:04 am

I was wondering if anyone knew what the loads look like on the BR, Cl, OZ, and KE flights out of Seattle. Information for both the summer and winter would be nice. I know that the NW flight does well in the summer because it is going 9x weekly this year. What about the UA flight, what do the loads look like? Thanks for the help.

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roseflyer
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RE: SEA-Asia Loads

Wed Mar 21, 2007 7:28 am

I would assume that UA and NW yields are good as they both maintain high loads across the pacific. I'm not sure about the other airlines.

I would assume that OZ and KE keep the minimum load necessary for profit on the SEA route since they adapt the route to the market and usually do not operate daily flights. If they had high loads, then I would expect an increase in service.

I'm curious as to how BR was affected when CI entered the market. CI now competes directly with BR. I just wonder how TPE can support that many flights yet airports like HKG and SIN don't even offer nonstop or direct (same flight number) service on any airlines.
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Stitch
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RE: SEA-Asia Loads

Wed Mar 21, 2007 9:44 am

UA's SEA-NRT-SEA loads are light in winter and strong in summer, but yields are always good because of strong First and Business Class bookings (though "strong" is like 25-30% of the cabin, which is still decent revenue).
 
HeeseokKoo
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RE: SEA-Asia Loads

Wed Mar 21, 2007 9:55 am

KE is doing 4 weeklies on ICN-SEA-ICN, while OZ does 3/w. I don't know about the load, but OZ will increase one more weekly from this July.
 
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RE: SEA-Asia Loads

Wed Mar 21, 2007 10:03 am

CI upped their TPE-SEA flights last year to 5/wk so they can't be doing badly, the SEA-IAH leg 3/week apparently haven't been doing great though.
 
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RE: SEA-Asia Loads

Wed Mar 21, 2007 12:24 pm

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 1):
I just wonder how TPE can support that many flights yet airports like HKG and SIN don't even offer nonstop or direct (same flight number) service on any airlines.

Probably because TPE isn't the final destination for many of the pax on those flights! I can tell you that when I flew through TPE last year on BR to SGN, the number of people transiting was enormous. If and when other airlines begin nonstop service from SEA to other Asian destinations (especially HKG), perhaps loads on the dual TPE and ICN flights will suffer.
 
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RE: SEA-Asia Loads

Wed Mar 21, 2007 1:19 pm

I have heard from some friend around SEA that the SEA-Asia routes are doing very well, especially the NW and UA. I think the SEA-IAH from CI is more for cargo than for passengers, but both of those routes are profitable. Hell, Eva can yank the B744 off that route and put in a 777 or an A330 if they need to downsize. Flew out on NW not too long ago (damn redeye) and the gate agent said that the Eva flight was oversold and they were looking for people to step off. That was on a Wednesday too! OZ and KE I assume are getting yields, but loads are probably not setting the world on fire. there are so many options to get from SEA-ICN, and the fares are still high. Seattle is a great gateway to Asia though, and here is hoping for a nonstop SEA-HKG!  biggrin 
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eva777sea
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RE: SEA-Asia Loads

Wed Mar 21, 2007 1:22 pm

Quoting Thepilot (Reply 6):
Hell, Eva can yank the B744 off that route and put in a 777 or an A330 if they need to downsize

Eva flys the Combi to SEA so the 777 would actually be an upgrade in size, they have stated that they eventually wish to put a 773 to SEA.