JAM747
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Any Chance Of More Versions Of The 777?

Wed Mar 21, 2007 8:09 am

The 777 has done very well for Boeing . Since it was introduced originally , more versions have evolved such as the -300ER, -200LR and the 777F. Is there a chance we might see more versions of the 777 such as a -300LR or a 300 freighter? With upcoming 787 versions replacing some of the 777 models, will there be certain roles the 777 be able to play which a 787 model even very stretched , not be able to play?
 
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RE: Any Chance Of More Versions Of The 777?

Wed Mar 21, 2007 8:25 am

Quoting JAM747 (Thread starter):
a 300 freighter?

Doubt you'll see that as a new-build, as it wouldn't offer any performance benefit relative to the -200F; but carry more deadweight.

Maybe as a conversion for the parcel carriers, way down the road.
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RE: Any Chance Of More Versions Of The 777?

Wed Mar 21, 2007 8:30 am

Quoting JAM747 (Thread starter):
Is there a chance we might see more versions of the 777 such as a -300LR or a 300 freighter?

I highly doubt it. There is only so much you can do to an airframe, you have to go for a clean sheet design at one point. You could probably increase the MTOW of the -300ER, but it doesn't help much in terms of longer range as long as the engines doesn't burn less fuel. Remember - a heavier aircraft burns more fuel.
When it comes to a 300F we might end up seeing some of those when the passenger 300s are faced out and (maybe) converted to freighters. But a 300F delivered directly from Boeing? No, it's not an optimal platform for a freighter.

Quoting JAM747 (Thread starter):
With upcoming 787 versions replacing some of the 777 models, will there be certain roles the 777 be able to play which a 787 model even very stretched , not be able to play?

The 787 will have a hard time beating the payload/range capabilities of the 772LR, and won't carry the same number of pax as the 773ER can, but the different derivatives of the 787 will have the ability to do the majority of the missions the 772ER/LR can do.
 
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RE: Any Chance Of More Versions Of The 777?

Wed Mar 21, 2007 8:43 am

There has been the talked about "diet" for the 777-200ER and no doubt the other variants would benefit also.
Widebodyphotog talked of how 6000lbs might be removed ; another of the technical people on this site talked of how considerable weight could be saved by changing from rivets to welding but whether there is a big enough market left for these initiatives, I simply do not know. Certainly the -300ER seems to have considerable life in it . The inevitability of the 787-10 almost counts the -200ER out as a possibility, I would think.
 
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RE: Any Chance Of More Versions Of The 777?

Wed Mar 21, 2007 9:24 am

I imagine we will not see new variants of the 777, but instead a continual enhancement program in terms of performance and efficiency to both the 777-200LR and 777-300ER until Y3 enters the picture towards 2020.
 
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RE: Any Chance Of More Versions Of The 777?

Wed Mar 21, 2007 9:25 am

The only upgrades of the 777 that may happen is if they actually wait for the 787 to be in service for 5 years or so and then perhaps take the basics of the 777 and then upgrade the wings and use more CF to the aircraft to squeeze more out of the aircraft. If they then keep the same cockpit and configs then there wouldnt be too much problem with familiarity for the crew so that would attract old customers to upgrade there 777s fleets. This would increase its range (and possible payloads) and would mean that boeing have a new aircraft without too much new R&D work needed.

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