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Aer Lingus Officially Announce 3 New US Routes

Thu Mar 22, 2007 9:53 pm

Well now its official guys!

Dublin - San Francisco starts in October.
Dublin - Orlando [re]starts this Winter.
Dublin - Washington (Dulles) starts this Winter.

[Philledelphia & Dallas will probably follow]

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...te-plans-following-open-skies.html



Article in the Irish Times:

Quote:

Aer Lingus welcomes confirmation of Open Skies and announces new US destinations
San Francisco, Orlando and Washington Dulles


Aer Lingus has hailed today's (Thursday, 22 March 2007) ratification of the Open
Skies agreement in Brussels as a momentous development for Irish aviation and
has confirmed plans to commence three new long haul services to the US before
the end of the year.

San Francisco, Orlando and Washington Dulles will become new Aer Lingus
destinations, with services from Dublin to San Francisco expected to start in
October. The expansion will increase Aer Lingus' US destinations from four to
seven and will lead to significantly increased traffic between Ireland and the
US.

Welcoming the confirmation of Open Skies, Dermot Mannion, chief executive of Aer
Lingus said: "Aer Lingus has waited a long time for this momentous day and to be
able to fully exploit the potential to significantly grow long haul traffic
between Ireland and the US. We are taking delivery of two new A330 long haul
aircrafts this summer and, with the proceeds of the IPO, are financially
resourced and strongly positioned to start three new long haul routes to the US
before the end of the year. Finally, Aer Lingus can offer the increased choice
of US destinations that our customers want and that will contribute to the
continued growth of Aer Lingus as a profitable and independent company.


Hopefully this will nudge the airline towards a 787 order before the summer. No new Asian routes until at least next summer.

[Edited 2007-03-22 15:21:42]
 
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RE: Aer Lingus Officially Announce 3 New US Routes

Thu Mar 22, 2007 9:59 pm

Where are the planes?

EI used other carriers to take up their slack this past summer and 2 additional planes are not enough to start 3 new cities. Even if not daily, EI will be hard pressed to get the planes to do these routes unless I have missed several EI deliveries over the winter.

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RE: Aer Lingus Officially Announce 3 New US Routes

Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:02 pm

Quoting ChiGB1973 (Reply 1):
Where are the planes?

EI used other carriers to take up their slack this past summer and 2 additional planes are not enough to start 3 new cities. Even if not daily, EI will be hard pressed to get the planes to do these routes unless I have missed several EI deliveries over the winter.

Id say we are looking at 3 flights a week initially. After the summer, there will be some additional capacity freed up from the existing A330 fleet also.
 
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RE: Aer Lingus Officially Announce 3 New US Routes

Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:24 pm

Good news! I think that EI made a wise choice by deciding to fly to IAD instead of BWI when it resumes flights to the Washington area. I am surprised that EI chose MCO or MIA. MIA attracts both business and leisure travellers whereas MCO is a tourist destination. EI passengers travelling to Caribbean and Latin American destinations could have transferred in MIA.

Quoting EI321 (Thread starter):
Hopefully this will nudge the airline towards a 787 order before the summer.

I thought that EI was a loyal Airbus customer, and it is unloading its remaining Boeing aircraft.
 
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RE: Aer Lingus Officially Announce 3 New US Routes

Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:26 pm

Quoting ChiGB1973 (Reply 1):
Where are the planes?

Looking at the EI website at the moment, the following schedules are loaded for this winter:

DUB-JFK x 3 daily
DUB-BOS x 1 daily
DUB-ORD x 1 daily
DUB-LAX - 3 times weekly
DUB-DXB - 3 times weekly

So that means 5 A333 are tied up with daily services, and 1 A332 will swap between LAX and DXB, so that means they have 3 A332 to serve MCO/IAD and SFO. My guess is IAD goes daily and the other 2 aircraft will swap around the SFO/LAX/DXB/MCO network with 1 aircraft to spare.

For next summer, DM (CEO) was on record as saying that if O/S was agreed, they had the ability to bring in 2 A330's for 2008 summer, so I guess that option will be excercised to allow daily services to a few places.
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RE: Aer Lingus Officially Announce 3 New US Routes

Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:29 pm

Does JetBlue have a hub in Orlando?

Quoting IAD380 (Reply 3):
Quoting EI321 (Thread starter):
Hopefully this will nudge the airline towards a 787 order before the summer.

I thought that EI was a loyal Airbus customer, and it is unloading its remaining Boeing aircraft.

All the Boeings are gone, it is currently an all-airbus airline. The order is probably 50:50 between the A350XWB & 787. We will see more A330s ordered in the meantime.
 
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Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:42 pm

Quoting EI321 (Reply 5):
The order is probably 50:50 between the A350XWB & 787.

Interesting! I am surprised that EI would start buying Boeing again. I would think that an airline of EI's size would buy aircraft only from one manufacturer to minimize costs and maximize efficiencies.
 
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Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:44 pm

Will EI codeshare with AA to DFW?
 
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RE: Aer Lingus Officially Announce 3 New US Routes

Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:46 pm

Quoting EXAAUADL (Reply 7):
Will EI codeshare with AA to DFW?

I think so, they already code share via JFK & ORD.
 
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RE: Aer Lingus Officially Announce 3 New US Routes

Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:46 pm

is the MCO flight going to be a charter again? That was extremely frustrating, and seemingly nonsensical that they would label the flight a 'charter' preventing travellers originating stateside from purchasing tickets (when the service didnt differ that drastically from a normal flight from what I've heard). Clearly the bulk of the traffic is coming from the Emerald Isle, but by not allowing us Orlando folk to purchase tickets EI probably lost a couple dozen seats per flight. If they flew out of SFB, it would make sense, but not as much out of MCO IMO.
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RE: Aer Lingus Officially Announce 3 New US Routes

Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:56 pm

Quoting MCOGVADCA (Reply 9):
is the MCO flight going to be a charter again?

No this agreement means that it will be a normal scheduled flight.

I would like to see EI get the 787 but it will proberbly go to Airbus for various reasons incl . political.

It seems very tight to operate all those routes. If one goes tech they are screwed. Anyway good news for EI anyway.

Quoting IAD380 (Reply 3):
I am surprised that EI chose MCO or MIA. MIA attracts both business and leisure travellers whereas MCO is a tourist destination.

Exactly my point and the cruise terminal is at MIA and there is currently a 50% increase Irish cruise passengers in the last few years.
 
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Fri Mar 23, 2007 12:28 am

Quoting ChiGB1973 (Reply 1):
Where are the planes?

EI used other carriers to take up their slack this past summer and 2 additional planes are not enough to start 3 new cities. Even if not daily, EI will be hard pressed to get the planes to do these routes unless I have missed several EI deliveries over the winter.

M



Quoting Pilot21 (Reply 4):
Looking at the EI website at the moment, the following schedules are loaded for this winter:

DUB-JFK x 3 daily
DUB-BOS x 1 daily
DUB-ORD x 1 daily
DUB-LAX - 3 times weekly
DUB-DXB - 3 times weekly

So that means 5 A333 are tied up with daily services, and 1 A332 will swap between LAX and DXB, so that means they have 3 A332 to serve MCO/IAD and SFO. My guess is IAD goes daily and the other 2 aircraft will swap around the SFO/LAX/DXB/MCO network with 1 aircraft to spare.

For next summer, DM (CEO) was on record as saying that if O/S was agreed, they had the ability to bring in 2 A330's for 2008 summer, so I guess that option will be excercised to allow daily services to a few places.

I'd be surprised to see them launch IAD as daily. They'll hopefully leave slack in the scheduling, to allow the A330's to take turns getting a new J and some Y improvements!!!

Quoting OA260 (Reply 10):
I would like to see EI get the 787 but it will proberbly go to Airbus for various reasons incl . political.

I dont think EI would go with Airbus for political reasons. I think it'll be a Boeing order, but thats just me!

Quoting OA260 (Reply 10):
Exactly my point and the cruise terminal is at MIA and there is currently a 50% increase Irish cruise passengers in the last few years.

MIA could follow, you never know! Maybe they'll code-share with AA on MCO-MIA?
 
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RE: Aer Lingus Officially Announce 3 New US Routes

Fri Mar 23, 2007 1:03 am

I'll believe DUB-DFW when I see it but I'd love to see another international carrier at Terminal D!
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RE: Aer Lingus Officially Announce 3 New US Routes

Fri Mar 23, 2007 1:05 am

Quoting Ssides (Reply 12):
I'll believe DUB-DFW when I see it but I'd love to see another international carrier at Terminal D!

It will happen some day!
 
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Fri Mar 23, 2007 1:14 am

Quoting Pilot21 (Reply 4):
DUB-JFK x 3 daily
DUB-BOS x 1 daily
DUB-ORD x 1 daily
DUB-LAX - 3 times weekly
DUB-DXB - 3 times weekly

According to several other schedules; these are this Summers long haul flights flights:

DUB-DXB - 4x Weekly
DUB-JFK - 2x Daily
DUB-BOS - 2x Daily (1 via SNN)
DUB-LAX - 1x Daily
DUB-ORD - 2x Daily (1 via SNN)


Aer Lingus currently has 7 Airbus A330's:
A330-200s
EI-DAA
EI-DUO (To be delivered)
EI-EWR
EI-LAX

A330-300s
EI-CRK
EI-DUB
EI-DUZ (To be delivered)
EI-JFK
EI-ORD

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Fri Mar 23, 2007 1:26 am

Quoting B742 (Reply 14):
According to several other schedules; these are this Summers long haul flights flights:

I was listing next winters schedule, which will allow the 3 new routes to be served with no increase in aircraft (post the 2 that join in May/June) your list is for the summer.

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Fri Mar 23, 2007 1:36 am

Each of the new routes - SFO, IAD and MCO - will be operated 4 times a week (remember that's through the winter, so they'll probably build up to daily by next Summer); 4 wkly to 3 new cities is the equivalent of two aircraft; I'm guessing they'll send a 333 to IAD and a 332 to the other two. Given a pen and paper, we could probably work out how many aircraft they'd actually need; isn't it just GREAT to be able to say this!!!

As for new aircraft, they'll almost certainly need those 330s DM is talking about for next Summer; that's regardless of whether 350s or 787s are chosen.
 
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Fri Mar 23, 2007 2:37 am

Does anyone think EI will continue with their tradition and register one of their new A330s EI-SFO?
 
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Fri Mar 23, 2007 2:42 am

I'd have to agree that DUB-SFO will start at 3 or 4 weekly and upgarde to daily for the busy summer season. San Francisco is a traditionally seasonal destination, thought if EI start bringing in a lot of business traffic, this could change.

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Fri Mar 23, 2007 2:46 am

What long haul routes do you think EI will add to its route network after IAD, MCO, and SFO? My guesses are PHL, YYZ, and maybe MIA. I have no idea which new long haul destinations EI would consider outside of North America.
 
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Fri Mar 23, 2007 2:48 am

What Asia routes do they have ??
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Fri Mar 23, 2007 2:48 am

Green A330s coming to an airport near you!

Quoting Legacyins (Reply 17):
Does anyone think EI will continue with their tradition and register one of their new A330s EI-SFO?

I would have loved to see it happen but the newest A330 is EI-DAA and the new A330s due in May are EI-DUO and EI-DUZ. I was hoping for EI-DXB and EI-BOS but it looks like the days of special registering of A330s are gone.
 
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Fri Mar 23, 2007 3:00 am

Quoting LHStarAlliance (Reply 20):
What Asia routes do they have ??

DUB-DXB
 
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Fri Mar 23, 2007 3:04 am

Quoting LHStarAlliance (Reply 20):
What Asia routes do they have ??

Just DXB as IAD380 mentions but rumours were that if OS failed, BKK among others would be announced for 2008 and a few Asia routes were in the EI booking system last year but it disappeared after a few hours.
 
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Fri Mar 23, 2007 3:11 am

Quoting Shamrock350 (Reply 23):

Didn´t they had a NRT flight some years ago , or I´m confounding it with another airline ?
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Fri Mar 23, 2007 3:20 am

Quoting LHStarAlliance (Reply 24):
Didn´t they had a NRT flight some years ago , or I´m confounding it with another airline ?

I doubt it! They may have had a codeshare with someone though.
The only long-haul routes outside of the US have been to Canada in the past and currently Dubai. They are rumoured to be interested in CPT and BKK. There are others I'm sure but for now EI is concentrating on their most successful market to the US.
 
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Fri Mar 23, 2007 3:37 am

What's the news with EI updating the interiors of the A330's? Has anything been set and has any work been done? Will the new 330's have a new, updated interior?
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Fri Mar 23, 2007 3:56 am

Congrats to EI for expanding their service in America- they will do outstanding on their new routes. Will they be taking away frequencies from SNN at all? Could someone refresh us on the new bilateral policy? I anticipate their new service- it was in dire need.
 
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Fri Mar 23, 2007 4:33 am

Cullen said in an interview that IAD would be first, then the other two:

"Earlier on Thursday, Irish Transport Minister Martin Cullen told Reuters in Brussels the service to Dulles would begin in September, with the other two routes to start in October.

Cullen also said current restrictions on flights in and out of Ireland, known as the "Shannon Stop," will be phased out as part of the deal to open up the market for air travel between Europe and the United States."

Not that I'm too pushed - it doesn't matter if one is in October or the other, November, although from what I've read on other sites, the 1:1 continues through the Summer season, until late October, then it goes to 3:1 and then, from next Summer, wide open!

Quoting LHStarAlliance (Reply 24):
Didn´t they had a NRT flight some years ago , or I´m confounding it with another airline ?

No, they have never flown to Japan (yet!), but they may yet do so. Could be Malev you were thinking about; they leased a 763 for a series of charters a few years back. In time, EI will look east (and south), but the US is clearly their biggest market.

Quoting Shamrock350 (Reply 21):
I would have loved to see it happen but the newest A330 is EI-DAA and the new A330s due in May are EI-DUO and EI-DUZ. I was hoping for EI-DXB and EI-BOS but it looks like the days of special registering of A330s are gone.

EI-DXB is still a possibility; EI-BOS is out, because the in-sequence regisrations are now at the DWs; indeed, after the DPs, Ryanair's next aircraft will be in the EI-DWx sequence, so if 'DXB is still available, it can happen. EI-IAD, MCO (probably EI-ORL more likely?) and EI-SFO could also be taken by EI. I'm not sure there was ever a firm decision taken to finish with imaginative registrations?
 
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Fri Mar 23, 2007 4:41 am

Quoting Kaitak (Reply 28):
No, they have never flown to Japan (yet!), but they may yet do so.

Is it compatible with the new company thinking , LCC ?

Quoting Kaitak (Reply 28):
Could be Malev you were thinking about; they leased a 763

Could be

But I still think they had an Asia route maybe it was the HKG , or I´m sleepy  Smile

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Fri Mar 23, 2007 4:51 am

A little surprised they are going with Dulles and Orlando. I would have said Philadelphia and Miami, which was what Aer Lingus was hinting up until very, very recently. I still would not be surprised to see them at Philadelphia and Miami sooner than later. These three cities are certainly not the end. I doubt Dallas will happen. Dallas was talked about when they had a stronger partnership with AA.
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Fri Mar 23, 2007 5:03 am

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 30):
These three cities are certainly not the end. I doubt Dallas will happen. Dallas was talked about when they had a stronger partnership with AA.

You're right - absolutely not the end; there are apparently 22 cities (or 19 more, excluding these) where there is a demand/potential for services to Ireland. I can see SEA, DEN, LAS, PHX, DFW, MIA and quite a few others. The big concern now is the state of DUB; it's going to be a building site with its own runway next year; a new parking area for large aircraft is being constructed, BUT the crunch point will be the limited space for US Immigration pre-clearance.

Quoting LHStarAlliance (Reply 29):
But I still think they had an Asia route maybe it was the HKG , or I?m sleepy

I'm afraid not; I would dearly love to have seen them in Kai Tak, but no, they've never operated a scheduled service further east than Rome, until Dubai was launched. BKK is still a strong contender and we may well see that within the next two years.
 
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Fri Mar 23, 2007 5:56 am

I knew MCO would be back. IAD surprises me. Didn't they fly into BWI at one time?

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Fri Mar 23, 2007 8:37 am

Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 32):
Didn't they fly into BWI at one time?

Yes, they did. BWI is a smaller and more user-friendly airport that has more LCC flights. However, regular transatlantic service from BWI usually doesn't last long. EI, LY, and GH launched scheduled flights from BWI, only to suspend them a short time later. KL switched its flights from BWI to IAD. BA flies from both airports. Icelandic offers seasonal service from BWI. IAD, despite its shortcomings, is emerging as a major international airport. I think that EI is more likely to succeed at IAD than at BWI.
 
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Fri Mar 23, 2007 8:42 am

Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 32):
I knew MCO would be back. IAD surprises me. Didn't they fly into BWI at one time?



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 30):
A little surprised they are going with Dulles

Why is everyone so surprised? There is no service between Washington-Ireland, and there certainly is a demand for it- in terms of government traffic, business and tourism in the summer (on both sides of the pond). AA has a big enough presence at IAD to provide decent Oneworld connections.
 
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Fri Mar 23, 2007 8:54 am

Quoting UA772IAD (Reply 34):
Why is everyone so surprised? There is no service between Washington-Ireland, and there certainly is a demand for it- in terms of government traffic, business and tourism in the summer (on both sides of the pond).

Becaause for the past two years they have been talking about flying to San Francisco, Miami, and Philadelphia. It has nothing to do with the market, it exists, it has to do with the the fact that Miami and Philadelphia quickly became Orlando and Dulles. Though Miami, Philadelphia, and 3-4 others are likely coming in the next 2-3 years.

Quoting UA772IAD (Reply 34):
AA has a big enough presence at IAD to provide decent Oneworld connections.

Aer Lingus will be a member of oneWorld for eight more days. After that, bye-bye.

Besides, AA's presence at IAD is not big. Starting next month, they won't even be flying IAD-ORD anymore.
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RE: Aer Lingus Officially Announce 3 New US Routes

Fri Mar 23, 2007 9:16 am

Is it me, or did anyone else find it interesting that MCO, IAD, and SFO are all B6 stations (two of which are large B6 stations)?

Or am I reading too deep into things?
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Fri Mar 23, 2007 9:30 am

Quoting FA4B6 (Reply 36):
Is it me, or did anyone else find it interesting that MCO, IAD, and SFO are all B6 stations (two of which are large B6 stations)?

Or am I reading too deep into things?



Well since they have a partnership with B6, it would be odd if they didn't fly to b6 stations.
 
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Fri Mar 23, 2007 9:57 am

Quoting SJCRRPAX (Reply 37):
Well since they have a partnership with B6, it would be odd if they didn't fly to b6 stations.

What partnership? Nothing is officially announced.
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Fri Mar 23, 2007 11:44 am

Quoting FA4B6 (Reply 38):
Quoting SJCRRPAX (Reply 37):
Well since they have a partnership with B6, it would be odd if they didn't fly to b6 stations.

What partnership? Nothing is officially announced.



Maybe I thought it was a done deal because it was in all the newspapers and it seemed to indicate to me it already happened.

http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/Business/20070207-044048-7531r/

"The partnership will significantly extend Aer Lingus' reach into North America," the Dublin-based airline said. "Customers will now be able to make just one booking, which will allow them to travel from Ireland to the U.S. and onto a direct JetBlue flight to 51 destinations."
 
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Fri Mar 23, 2007 2:08 pm

It's not a done deal yet; they still have to link up their computers and do all the technical stuff; I guess the commercial people have to work out pro-ratas, i.e. what the fares will be and what percentage will go to B6 and to EI. That should all be in place by the time the new routes take effect. It's happening guys!

EI's in for some significant competition, particularly from UA next Summer, which will be wanting to launch ORD and IAD-DUB.

It's quite possible that DUB will be one of a small number of European airports which will have all six US "legacy" carriers serving it: DL, CO, AA, UA, US and NW. I remember a time when there were none (1975-83) and then there was only one, NW and later, DL, for quite a while. We lost so much business and wasted so much potential because of the Shannon stopover.
 
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Fri Mar 23, 2007 4:45 pm

NW is reported to be in final stages of discussion with DAA to open a Detroit - Dublin route next Spring. However the article in today's Irish Times which states this says most US airlines will wait for Open Skies to be fully operational before launching any new routes to ensure they can fully get around the SNN stop over rule. (which will be gone by then)

The article also states IAD will start on Sept 2nd, with fares available on line in 2 weeks time. IAD and SFO will be served 4 times a week and MCO 3.

So the winter Long haul schedule will be:

DUB - JFK x 3 Daily
DUB - BOS x 1 Daily
DUB - ORD x 1 Daily
DUB - LAX x 3 times a week
DUB - DXB x 3 times a week
DUB - SFO x 4 times a week
DUB - IAD x 4 times a week
DUB - MCO x 3 times a week

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Sat Mar 24, 2007 6:33 am

Any long haul out of SNN?
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RE: Aer Lingus Officially Announce 3 New US Routes

Sat Mar 24, 2007 6:41 am

I'm pleased to see EI expanding long haul but :

- Why Dulles? Why not BWI like before? Even PHL might have proven better, or will EI/US codeshare?
- Why MCO? I would have thought that MIA would have been far better to connect to Centeral & Latin America through AA?
- Why not Africa (CPT?) I thought that the only reason this wasn't started before was because of crew rest issues?
- Are EI still restricted in starting flights to YYZ, YVR or YUL?

I'm very pleased to see SFO on the map, it will be a much better route than San Jose.
 
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RE: Aer Lingus Officially Announce 3 New US Routes

Sat Mar 24, 2007 6:49 am

Quoting Planemanofnz (Reply 43):
- Why not Africa (CPT?) I thought that the only reason this wasn't started before was because of crew rest issues?

Probably still looking at Africa and Asia but their main aim now is getting US access, this is just the beginning of their long-haul expansion!
 
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RE: Aer Lingus Officially Announce 3 New US Routes

Sat Mar 24, 2007 8:27 am

Quoting EI321 (Reply 5):
The order is probably 50:50 between the A350XWB & 787.

If rumours are correct, EI will order 14 B787-9s
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RE: Aer Lingus Officially Announce 3 New US Routes

Sat Mar 24, 2007 8:54 am

I was hoping Seattle was going to be one of the cities in the U.S.?
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RE: Aer Lingus Officially Announce 3 New US Routes

Sat Mar 24, 2007 10:05 am

Is MSP a possibility? St. Paul has a big Irish population. Or NW will start MSP-DUB. I would like some green at MSP.  Smile
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RE: Aer Lingus Officially Announce 3 New US Routes

Sat Mar 24, 2007 12:31 pm

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 45):
If rumours are correct, EI will order 14 B787-9s

Interesting; can you say anymore? Was this from a usually reliable source?
 
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RE: Aer Lingus Officially Announce 3 New US Routes

Sun Mar 25, 2007 1:58 am

Quoting Planemanofnz (Reply 43):
I'm pleased to see EI expanding long haul but :

- Why Dulles? Why not BWI like before? Even PHL might have proven better, or will EI/US codeshare?
- Why MCO? I would have thought that MIA would have been far better to connect to Centeral & Latin America through AA?
- Why not Africa (CPT?) I thought that the only reason this wasn't started before was because of crew rest issues?
- Are EI still restricted in starting flights to YYZ, YVR or YUL?

I'm very pleased to see SFO on the map, it will be a much better route than San Jose.

-Why Dulles and not BWI? Maybe Dulles offered EI a better package, or IAD has more potential?
-PHL will probably follow, with future expansion
-MCO was chosen as MCO is a big destination for Irish. EI flew it in the past, but due to SNN and other issues, couldnt make it work. It had a load factor of over 90% all of the time, so lets hope they can make it work! They're gonna be taking a huge chunk of DL's DUB-ATL pax, as a lot of pax on that flight transfer to MCO.
-CPT will also probably follow. As discussed on various Irish Aviation threads, in order to avoid long ground times when operating a CPT route, EI would really need to also launch a far-east route, which will alos come soon with expansion, and the imminent Long-haul order!!!
-EI are still restricted with Canadian flying. I'm sure they could make YYZ and YVR work though!

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