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Bmi To Announce US Routes: Place Your Bets

Fri Mar 23, 2007 12:34 am

No surprise that this press release appeared very swiftly... Nigel Turner recently said that no more than three or four would appear each year, so where do you think that beautiful BD livery is going to touch down stateside from LHR first? And are BD in a position to order any more widebodies?

Quote:
bmi praises UK Government’s support of EU-US open skies deal

http://flybmi.com/bmi/en-gb/aboutbmi...ssreleases.aspx?year=2007&rid=1107

release date: 22/03/2007

- landmark decision will bring overwhelming benefits of genuine competition to UK travellers

bmi has praised the UK Government for supporting the draft EU-US open skies agreement in a key vote taken today by Douglas Alexander, Secretary of State for Transport at a meeting of the EU’s 27 Member States’ transport ministers in Brussels. A unanimous vote of support was achieved to take the agreement forward, meaning any EU airline can now serve any US destination from anywhere in the EU.

Nigel Turner, chief executive officer of bmi, said: “We applaud the UK Government for taking the interests of UK plc and the UK travelling public seriously and supporting the open skies agreement. This was a brave move in the face of stiff opposition from the two UK airlines that have for years enjoyed a protected transatlantic market from Heathrow.

“We will now see the long-overdue scrapping of the protectionist Bermuda II agreement that limits the number of airlines permitted to fly between Heathrow and the US to four, which was declared unlawful by the European Court of Justice in 2002. The stranglehold has finally been broken.

“Today is a landmark in the history of air links between Europe and the US and the agreement will be a a prelude to global liberalisation of air transport. Millions of travellers will benefit from additional competition, including lower fares and a greater choice of services. UK travellers alone could save up to £250 million a year, as identified by the UK Civil Aviation Authority (CAA).

“This decision is a victory for the travelling public. bmi is now ideally placed to take advantage of this major breakthrough and turn into reality our long held ambition to commence services to the US from our main operational hub at Heathrow. This will have a major impact not only on point-to-point traffic to the US but on the network competition that bmi will be able to provide from our wide range of domestic, European and other longhaul services.”

bmi expects to announce shortly details of its first USA services from Heathrow.
 
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Fri Mar 23, 2007 12:37 am

Where are they getting the aircrafts particularly they're leasing out 330-200 to Virgin Nigeria.
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Fri Mar 23, 2007 12:38 am

Expect to see MAN-LAS shifted to LHR-LAS at the first opportunity.

They will want to fly to NYC for sure - as a prestige thing as much as anything. Other than that, look to Star hubs intially making the most sense due to the feed they could get from UA and US.
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Fri Mar 23, 2007 12:41 am

This Opensky agreement will put pressure on the already empty large aircraft market and push up leasing rates even more...
There is no way that all the airlines who want to benefit from the new legislation will have all the capacity and metal available to launch those flights.757's with winglets will become a precious comodity...
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Fri Mar 23, 2007 12:41 am

LHR-JFK
LHR-ORD
LHR-MIA
LHR-LAX

and goodbye Manchester!
 
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Fri Mar 23, 2007 12:49 am

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 4):
LHR-JFK
LHR-ORD
LHR-MIA
LHR-LAX

and goodbye Manchester!

Exactly!!!! Manchester wont see BD l/h service for dust!!!!!
 
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Fri Mar 23, 2007 12:50 am

My theory would be that the airline will juggle two of their existing Airbus A330s; the one A330 which flies from Manchester to the Caribbean and Las Vegas, and the one A330 which flies to Saudi Arabia, instead using these two aircraft to fly trans-Atlantic routes from LHR. The Manchester leisure routes will be easily taken over by the increasingly longhaul-oriented charter airlines, whilst the Saudi routes could potentially be flown each daily, alongside Dammam, with an Airbus A321, using slots from some of their leisure routes which they operate as slot warmers such as the daily ALC or VCE - considering these routes are already well served by the low-cost carriers. bmi will probably also scour the Star Alliance bank of available aircraft and then all other sources for available longhaul Airbus aircraft they can use for longhaul by March 2008. Destinations wise, I'd predict bmi will fly to New York and the Star Alliance hubs in the States. New York - London, one of the busiest longhaul routes in the world, now has no Star Alliance presence following United pulling the route in October, wheras oneworld and Skyteam both have a major presence. With regards to the Star Alliance hubs, UA has been cutting back their London operations over the years, preferring their trans-Pacific operations for the B777s and B747s and probably realising that there's money to be made from selling LHR slots. I'd imagine UA will end up flying twice daily to their American hubs from LHR (and possibly other European hubs), sell any spare slots pocketing a lot of cash, and allowing additional frequencies on their routes to be bolstered by bmi transferring some of their shorthaul slots to longhaul capacity. US Airways will have a tough time getting slots at LHR, so bmi would do well flying to their hubs and codesharing with US.

However it all works out, this is a big year for bmi. The airline will be expanding into trans-Atlantic operations, has bought BMED allowing them to expediate their expansion into the mediumhaul market to the East, and there has been talks of bmi launching routes to Pakistan and re-entering India. If they get it right, it will be a long way from the basket case airline of two years ago.
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Fri Mar 23, 2007 12:52 am

Quoting Lite (Reply 6):
and the one A330 which flies to Saudi Arabia, instead using these two aircraft to fly trans-Atlantic routes from LHR.

There isn't a A330 on Saudi - they lease an Arkefly 767.
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Fri Mar 23, 2007 12:56 am

Quoting COEI2007 (Reply 5):
Exactly!!!! Manchester wont see BD l/h service for dust!!!!!

bmi never wanted to set up a longhaul operation from Manchester, it was always the escape plan if Open Skies didn't happen in 2000, and as it didn't bmi launched their Washington and Chicago routes. Whilst we've lost Washington, Toronto and St Lucia, the airline's Chicago route is supposed to be profitable and competitive, despite established competition from American Airlines. I'd expect the LAS route (isn't LAS a US Airways hub?) to be moved to LHR and the Caribbean routes to be dropped, but for ORD to stay, and BD to codeshare with US' flight to PHL.

I think the American Star hubs are; ORD, IAD, PHL, PIT, CLT, DEN, PHX, LAS, LAX, SFO plus bmi will want to launch a JFK route. Now if you flew both of those routes twice daily (though I don't know if Vegas, Pittsburgh or Charlotte require twice daily service) you'd require 22 pairs of slots but how many aircraft?
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Fri Mar 23, 2007 1:05 am

All i'll say is... When you've cocked it up BMI, like you have done everywhere else, don't come back to MAN, cause UA will pick up ORD if they've any sense and VS will take the leisure routes, so best of luck and tatty bye.

Oh and we won't be using you out of LHR because the place is a dump!

Alternatively, you could leave LHR to go into meltdown with everyone else fighting like children and build a proper cohesive plan to hub somewhere else.... Naaaaah, it'll never work!
 
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Fri Mar 23, 2007 1:13 am

Quoting Cornish (Reply 7):
There isn't a A330 on Saudi - they lease an Arkefly 767.

At the moment the route is operated by the TUI Boeing 767, but when the aircraft currently leased to virgin nigeria returns, that is apparently planned to operate on the Saudi routes with a larger business class cabin and smaller premium economy cabin.
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Fri Mar 23, 2007 1:16 am

Quoting Lite (Reply 10):
At the moment the route is operated by the TUI Boeing 767, but when the aircraft currently leased to virgin nigeria returns, that is apparently planned to operate on the Saudi routes with a larger business class cabin and smaller premium economy cabin

Another great BMI idea, thus not allowing cross-fertilisation of the fleet and pissing all your customers off when it goes tech!

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Fri Mar 23, 2007 1:43 am

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 4):
LHR-JFK
LHR-ORD
LHR-MIA
LHR-LAX

Add LHR-SFO to those.
 
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Fri Mar 23, 2007 2:38 am

I am actually surprised that BMI said will be making an announcement soon as the EU-US deal will not go ahead until Spring 2008. Am I missing something here?

There is plenty of time for BMI and other operators to reach deals with leasing companies for extra long haul planes. This of course can happen provided that the leasing companies have planes in stock or on order.
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Fri Mar 23, 2007 2:44 am

Quoting JonnyWishbone (Reply 11):
Another great BMI idea, thus not allowing cross-fertilisation of the fleet and pissing all your customers off when it goes tech!

I think you'll find that that is the case already, the Arkefly aircraft is the only one in the fleet in that config, and things seem to be working out OK so far. The Saudi routes are highly successful for bmi, both in terms of premium passengers and cargo.

By returning the A330 to the Saudi routes, bmi will be improving the C class cabin offering even more, with lie flat beds and better on board service...... so it sounds like a very good idea to me.

Quoting JonnyWishbone (Reply 9):
don't come back to MAN, cause UA will pick up ORD if they've any sense

I think UA have more important things to think about that flying ORDMAN, like launching DENLHR. After many years of scaling back their flights to the UK, I don't see them rushing to the UK regions.
 
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Fri Mar 23, 2007 2:44 am

Quoting Cornish (Reply 2):
Expect to see MAN-LAS shifted to LHR-LAS at the first opportunity.

With all due respect to LAS, LHR-LAS would surely be lower yielding for bmi than some other US cities and therefore a 'waste' of bmi's very small long haul aircraft fleet. Unless theres some lucrative contract BD have?

Quoting Lite (Reply 6):
The Manchester leisure routes will be easily taken over by the increasingly longhaul-oriented charter airlines,

Or VS - dont forget Virgin Holidays take a lot of seats on those routes

Quoting JonnyWishbone (Reply 9):
All i'll say is... When you've cocked it up BMI, like you have done everywhere else, don't come back to MAN, cause UA will pick up ORD if they've any sense

Im not sure if UA have suitable spare aircraft
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Fri Mar 23, 2007 2:48 am

Weren't BD suppose to pick up 2 A340's from LH? anybody know when this fleet statment will be for 20 aircraft plus 20 options? think the 1st one will be LHR-JFK taking on the route from UA, then followed by LAX , SFO, and BOS. - MAN to Chicago will stay thats about the only longhaul route thats making money. come on BD lets see a big turn around now for your customers.!
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Fri Mar 23, 2007 2:57 am

Although it isn't likely, I'd like to see a MAN-SEA route! I think we already have LHR covered with BA.
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Fri Mar 23, 2007 3:10 am

Hope to see a PDX flight to LHR.......................
 
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Fri Mar 23, 2007 4:14 am

I can't help feeling that LHR-JFK is going to be too cut-throat a route to start off with... knowing Sir MB and bmi they'll probably have a crack at it straight off for the prestige and then realise twelve months down the line that they do not have the frequency or to make it work. Maybe in a couple of years, but I suspect that BD's strongest hand is to start bashing a carefully chosen handful of the Star Alliance American hubs:

United Hubs: ORD, DEN, SFO, LAX, IAD
US Airways Hubs: CLT, PHL, PHX, PIT, LAX

So if anyone is working late in Donnington tonight, in 'year one' I'm looking forward to seeing:

LHR-ORD
LHR-IAD
LHR-DEN
LHR-SFO

I really can't imagine BD being serious about of any these without a few more A330 (heck, why not an A380, Airbus might do a deal do get some good press after a bad few months and that's one livery she'd look sweet in). So assuming that new a/c are on the way, I'd hope that some longhaul presence at Manchester is maintained. MAN-ORD and MAN-LAX are reaching maturity and doing well, although admittedly that's usually when BD pull the plug on anything.

Pick up a copy of the bmi in flight magazine and you'll find that the route maps at the back are a bit of a mess. Painfully few European routes and a confusing mish-mash of codeshare routes masking BD's weaknesses. With the acquisition of BMED (very important: note that subject to approval, BA wants to be codesharing on all of these for the foreseeable future) and a couple of key LHR transatlantic routes on the way, BD has suddenly turned a corner...

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Fri Mar 23, 2007 4:29 am

Quoting COEI2007 (Reply 5):
Exactly!!!! Manchester wont see BD l/h service for dust!!!!!



Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 4):
and goodbye Manchester!

Unfortunate but in the long term most proberbly true!!!

I would be glad to see LHR-MIA and LHR-JFK and LHR-LAS and as a Gold card holder with BMI it adds to the list of routes I can get miles on.
 
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Fri Mar 23, 2007 4:30 am

Hi,

I'd place my bets on a LHR-LAS, for sure. As for new cities, IAH could be a good one. Seeing as there's no direct service to LHR, it could work. Especially if CO's application for the route fails.

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 4):
LHR-MIA

I think there's too many flights from LHR already. 2x Daily BA and 1x Daily VS(?).

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Fri Mar 23, 2007 4:33 am

OT I know , but doesnt LH have some sort of deal with SMB where they have first preference on purchasing the rest of BD ? I would think that open skies would make it a much more attractive purchase
 
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Fri Mar 23, 2007 4:40 am

Quoting Cornish (Reply 2):
They will want to fly to NYC for sure - as a prestige thing as much as anything.

...though BD has been stating for years they wanted LHR-JFK, "prestige" certainly isn't one of the reasons why...which never paid the bills anyway... Wink

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 4):
LHR-ORD

with AA, BA, UA, AI, and now VS entering LHR-ORD unlessBD route planners are total buffoons, I highly doubt they will start LHR-ORD services, as MAN-ORD is one of their most profitable routes.....
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Fri Mar 23, 2007 4:53 am

When they first wanted to fly LHR-USA, they wanted Seattle, Denver, Miami, and Chicago, IIRC.

I think we will see Washington, Chicago, and maybe Miami and Las Vegas (replacing MAN) at launch. West coast requires to much aircraft utilization and doesn't provide as strong yields. LHR-LAX is also very well served, as is LON-NYC, which is why I don't think we will see them at first. I can realisticly see bmi flying to 10-12 US cities within 4-5 years.
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Fri Mar 23, 2007 5:52 am

Hope to see LHR to BDA, then i can see my sister ..
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Fri Mar 23, 2007 5:55 am

About time El Paso had a daily non-stop link to London, preferably Heathrow. However, one issue bugs me: would the 330 be sufficiently large?
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Fri Mar 23, 2007 5:59 am

Quoting Humberside (Reply 15):

Im not sure if UA have suitable spare aircraft

UA does not quite have the terrible widebody shortage some of the other major US airlines do, UA still has more widebody capacity it can juice out of its fleet. The thing is, UA has been cutting down LHR flights, I'm not sure why they'd bit on that.
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Fri Mar 23, 2007 5:59 am

LHR-PHL, LHR-LAS is my bet. If they want to compete with BA and VS, go for MCO from LHR.

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Fri Mar 23, 2007 6:03 am

Quoting AH332 (Reply 21):
As for new cities, IAH could be a good one. Seeing as there's no direct service to LHR, it could work. Especially if CO's application for the route fails.

We'd love to see them along with VS down here at IAH--however, don't expect COs application to fail and BA will throw a 744 to LHR as soon as possible on the route. So in about a years time I expect to see double daily 777s from CO and double daily BA (perhaps 744 and 777) from BA. Bye Bye BA LHR-DTW-IAH.
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Fri Mar 23, 2007 6:05 am

First let BMI find any available A330 it can gets its hands on, there aren't many around to be had. May be Virgin Atlantic with its spare A343's could lend a hand. In Asia Thai and Cathay may have some spare A333 and A340 with new 777 coming on line.
 
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Fri Mar 23, 2007 6:16 am

Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 28):
If they want to compete with BA and VS, go for MCO from LHR.

BA has a hard enough time competing with VS. I doubt bmi wants to join in on that.
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Fri Mar 23, 2007 6:25 am

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Fri Mar 23, 2007 6:45 am

Come on IAH-MAN!!!! IAH could use a 2nd nonstop to the UK.
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Fri Mar 23, 2007 6:46 am

I'd have thought with Lufthansa owning 30% of bmi, they would be keen to use the relatively strong bmi brand to make the best of longhaul expansion out of LHR, and might be able to afford some available A330s (are the ex-Sabena examples still available?) or other longhaul equipment to use from next March rather than flying their own aircraft. As I said before, my guess would be Star Alliance hubs and New York before anywhere exotic, but all depending on the availability of sourcing longhaul aircraft in time for next March. Might be worth checking Airbus for delivery slots over the next twelve months.
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Fri Mar 23, 2007 6:53 am

Quoting Drerx7 (Reply 29):
BA LHR-DTW-IAH.

I thought BA's service to IAH was via ORD not DTW?  Confused

Quoting Drerx7 (Reply 29):
don't expect COs application to fail

Is there enough slots for CO to even begin operating to LHR? Maybe with the new T5 opening, but I thought that was at least a couple years away.

Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 28):
If they want to compete with BA and VS, go for MCO from LHR.

Doubt it. Seems VS has a good hold of the MCO market.

It would be interesting to see what routes BMI chooses to launch! Well, I guess we'de just have to wait and see.

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Fri Mar 23, 2007 6:56 am

Quoting AH332 (Reply 35):
I thought BA's service to IAH was via ORD not DTW? Confused

Originally the flight was LHR-IAD-IAH with 744, then it went LHR-ORD-IAH with 777, now its LHR-DTW-IAH with 763.

Quoting AH332 (Reply 35):
Is there enough slots for CO to even begin operating to LHR? Maybe with the new T5 opening, but I thought that was at least a couple years away.

They'll probably buy some from other carriers. How much is a F50 from LHR to Rotterdam worth to KLM? You'll see alot of schedule changes going on over at LHR.
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Fri Mar 23, 2007 7:09 am

Quoting AH332 (Reply 35):
Maybe with the new T5 opening, but I thought that was at least a couple years away.

T5 opens at the end of March next year, and will only provide more aircraft parking stands and terminal space, it will not provide additional slots, this would only be the case if a third runway is allowed to be built, which BAA are campaigning for, but is coming under serious pressure from environmental campaigners.

Quoting Drerx7 (Reply 36):
How much is a F50 from LHR to Rotterdam worth to KLM?

My guess is that it's keeping the slots for KLM to either sell at a very attractive price, or to use for their own expansion out of the airport. Though having never used the Rotterdam service myself, I have no idea what the yields are like or whether there is serious corporate money to be made from the route.

Quoting Kiwiandrew (Reply 22):
OT I know , but doesnt LH have some sort of deal with SMB where they have first preference on purchasing the rest of BD ? I would think that open skies would make it a much more attractive purchase

This was part of the ECA, where Lufthansa, SAS and bmi had to pool their resources, profits and losses on flights between the UK, Germany and Scandinavia, this agreement will end at the end of this year, and is believed to have cost LH & SK a lot of money, though they have benefited from not having bmi try to invade their territory had they been independent. Lufthansa's CEO has been quoted as saying he thinks the arrangement with bmi is stupid, though he may be thinking differently now - using LH's resources with BD's brand would make a formidable LHR competitor.
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Fri Mar 23, 2007 7:42 am

First Choice Airways are already FAR better than BA/BD/VS etc on long haul routes. As are MyTravel, Monarch, Thomas Cook etc.

Who gives a toss about BA etc. The real passenger flies TCX/MON/FCA/XLA/MYT/TOM etc not BA/VS/Whoever else.
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Fri Mar 23, 2007 7:43 am

I was going to start a thread about this, but somebody beat me to it...

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 4):
LHR-JFK
LHR-ORD
LHR-MIA
LHR-LAX

and goodbye Manchester!

Why would they go into BA strongholds? BA would eat BMI's hide on LHR-JFK... many 777s and 747s, BMI won't stand a chance IMO!

Quoting Jamesontheroad (Reply 19):
United Hubs: ORD, DEN, SFO, LAX, IAD
US Airways Hubs: CLT, PHL, PHX, PIT, LAX

This is my thinking, although LAS, not Lax, is a hub for US, and PIT is a focus city. Although, for a focus city, US has roughly 150 daily departures... Still, I see them sticking with Star Alliance cities myself...

Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 28):
LHR-PHL, LHR-LAS is my bet. If they want to compete with BA and VS, go for MCO from LHR.

They also have BA at PHL with a 777 and 767. Maybe if they had morning flights to LHR, as BA's flights are about an hour or two apart, with a 9:00 pm departure on BA 066, a 777, and a 10:50 departure on BA 068 on a 767. I think those times are close, I know the second one is right... They arrive after 10 local time the next morning...
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Fri Mar 23, 2007 7:46 am

We flew BMI IAD-MAN on the A330 and then for a time they had an Icelandic 757 leased on the route before they dropped it all together.

I can't see them returning to IAD given that Aer Lingus just announced they will begin serving Washington. They'll be able to provide connecting service to other places of interest in the region reducing the appeal to BMI. But one can hope; I'd like to see them back.
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Fri Mar 23, 2007 8:25 am

Anyone know if ACAA will visit BMI???
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RE: Bmi To Announce US Routes: Place Your Bets

Fri Mar 23, 2007 8:42 am

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RE: Bmi To Announce US Routes: Place Your Bets

Fri Mar 23, 2007 8:50 am

I wonder if they came to MSP? One person said that the MSP-LGW-MSP flight is good enough. MSP is also a Sky Team hub. NW will not like a blue tail at MSPBig grin Red tail, red tail, red tail, whats this? A blue tail!
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RE: Bmi To Announce US Routes: Place Your Bets

Fri Mar 23, 2007 8:52 am

Quoting IAHFLYER (Reply 33):
Come on IAH-MAN!!!! IAH could use a 2nd nonstop to the UK.



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 24):
When they first wanted to fly LHR-USA, they wanted Seattle, Denver, Miami, and Chicago, IIRC.

I recall seeing IAH on BD's wish list as well when announced in the late 90s. That said, IAH probably could not support another London flight, and I doubt a MAN flight would work either. But hey, I would love to be wrong

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RE: Bmi To Announce US Routes: Place Your Bets

Fri Mar 23, 2007 9:41 am

Quoting AH332 (Reply 21):
I think there's too many flights from LHR already. 2x Daily BA and 1x Daily VS(?).

I would like to see BD on the MIA-LHR market. Right now there are BA/AA/VS. VS has 1X daily, BA 2X daily, and AA I think has 2X daily also? 5 daily flights ex: MIA to LHR to many would seem to be decent, but I think its slightly underserved (just a little, nothing maybe a couple of weekly frequencies with an A330 cant fix, or even daily?)  Wink

Quoting Walter747 (Reply 32):
$10 on BOS................

I'll put $5.00 on MIA because I didnt go to the bank today  Smile
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RE: Bmi To Announce US Routes: Place Your Bets

Fri Mar 23, 2007 9:42 am

Quoting Drerx7 (Reply 36):
Originally the flight was LHR-IAD-IAH with 744, then it went LHR-ORD-IAH with 777, now its LHR-DTW-IAH with 763.



Quoting Lite (Reply 37):
T5 opens at the end of March next year, and will only provide more aircraft parking stands and terminal space, it will not provide additional slots, this would only be the case if a third runway is allowed to be built, which BAA are campaigning for, but is coming under serious pressure from environmental campaigners.

Thanks for the clarification guys!  Smile

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RE: Bmi To Announce US Routes: Place Your Bets

Fri Mar 23, 2007 11:14 am

Quoting EYFlyer88 (Reply 45):
I'll put $5.00 on MIA because I didnt go to the bank today

Gives AA a run for the money. See my PM.

I'll add $5.00 on BOS/ LAS- LHR.

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RE: Bmi To Announce US Routes: Place Your Bets

Fri Mar 23, 2007 3:08 pm

Quoting Lite (Reply 6):

Destinations wise, I'd predict bmi will fly to New York and the Star Alliance hubs in the States. New York - London, one of the busiest longhaul routes in the world, now has no Star Alliance presence following United pulling the route in October, wheras oneworld and Skyteam both have a major presence.

The only SkyTeam presence is Delta. OneWorld, apart from VS, AI & KU, have that market pretty much to themselves. And if O/S does lead to closer alliances, OneWorld is going to be hard to beat on that route, by anyone!

Maybe a takeover bid by BA? Or an American carrier like DL? Just think of the possibilities!
 
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RE: Bmi To Announce US Routes: Place Your Bets

Fri Mar 23, 2007 4:15 pm

Quoting Zkojh (Reply 25):
Hope to see LHR to BDA , then i can see my sister ..

In spite of the agreements being called Bermuda I and Bermuda II they had nothing to do with Bermuda . This is an open skies agreement between the US and the EU , Bermuda is not part of either entity so this will have absolutely no bearing on flights to/from BDA - sorry