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Shorts 360NG...?

Sun Mar 25, 2007 7:25 am

Could there ever or was there ever a plan to build an updated Shorts Brothers 360? I always loved seeing them in my city flying ILM-RDU. Only body i know of that was desined to create lift with the wing.



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RE: Shorts 360NG...?

Sun Mar 25, 2007 8:50 am

Yes I loved seeing this aircraft as well! Even though the square fuselage does create alot of lift, I'm sure it also creates alot of drag, although I could be wrong. Also I'm not sure if Short's would be up to building a NG version.
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RE: Shorts 360NG...?

Sun Mar 25, 2007 10:11 am

It is a box with wings on it. Build a S-360NG? The only question in my mind is.........WHY?

You could say the S-360 is the S-330NG.  Yeah sure
 
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RE: Shorts 360NG...?

Sun Mar 25, 2007 10:21 am

Its a shipping container with wings
 
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RE: Shorts 360NG...?

Sun Mar 25, 2007 12:59 pm

Quoting EI321 (Reply 3):
Its a shipping container with wings

Yes in which DeHavilland Twin Otter was shipped in!....
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RE: Shorts 360NG...?

Sun Mar 25, 2007 1:06 pm

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 2):
It is a box with wings on it. Build a S-360NG? The only question in my mind is.........WHY?

Agreed. The S360 is possibly the ugliest mass produced airliner the world has ever seen. It ranks among the top 5 anyway.

I will be most pleased when they are phased out. My least favorite Airliner.. well.. anything from the Shorts Brothers is my least favorite airliner.

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RE: Shorts 360NG...?

Sun Mar 25, 2007 1:12 pm

In the ABQ Airport Administration Offices there is a wood model of a new version of the Shorts 360 designed only for cargo hauling. The aircraft has the same props as on the Q400. It's a sharp looking model. Im trying to remember for the life of me the company that was planning on building them, but they were located somewhere in New Mexico.
 
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RE: Shorts 360NG...?

Sun Mar 25, 2007 1:22 pm

Quoting Asturias (Reply 5):
The S360 is possibly the ugliest mass produced airliner the world has ever seen

It may be ugly. but very reliable and practically MTC free due no pressuriztion/bulkheads to limit it life cycle. Granted it is somewhat "abnormal" with a square fuselage,but, keep in mind, the Shorts brothers were very ingenious by developing this aircraft with the fuselage that provides 40-50% of the lift capability. SMART!
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RE: Shorts 360NG...?

Sun Mar 25, 2007 1:25 pm

Quoting ERAUgrad02 (Thread starter):
Only body i know of that was desined to create lift with the wing.

learn something everyday, I always wondered why it was a square shape with relatively small wings. Probably a neat idea in theory but I guess it must have a lot of other drawbacks as no-one else adopted the idea.
 
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RE: Shorts 360NG...?

Sun Mar 25, 2007 1:39 pm

Quoting MMEPHX (Reply 8):
no-one else adopted the idea.

No one wanted to re-tool their plant from a round fuselage to a square fuselage for a limited number of aircraft, as this "square" is good to a maximum of 10,000 ft, as above that you need pressurization, and you can't pressurize a square box.
Honestlly, the Shorts is a perfect aircraft for short, high frequency markets. I.E. YVR-YYJ/YCD (15min), and provides amazing views with those large windows. I have heard many people comment on how amazing it was to be able to see so much because of the oversized windows.
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RE: Shorts 360NG...?

Sun Mar 25, 2007 1:45 pm

Quoting TIMEAIR (Reply 7):
no pressuriztion/bulkheads

Yeah it is ugly, but no pressurization isn't a benefit for pax. For the plane perhaps, but it is nice to fly over most of the low-altitude weather.

Hello S360 and *hello* inconvenient flight.

The reason that the square thing never caught on is (besides being ugly as sin) even short-haul turboprops need to have pressurized cabin.

The Dash-8, the Saab 2000, the F50, the ATR series, etc.

Shorts isn't ingenious. It is decades behind in technology. It is reliable, but it is simple. It is ingenious design for what it does, but it isn't comfortable to fly in for more than 30 minutes at a time anyway.

I've flown those things frequently through the years. Being ugly is probably the best thing I have to say for them. I look forward to seeing them completely phased out.

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RE: Shorts 360NG...?

Sun Mar 25, 2007 6:49 pm

New start-up airlines had the option of using the SD3-60 as a cheap way of proving services. As was stated above the Vomit Comet was ideal for short hops where ground transportation was not an option (inter island for example).

With the gradual demise of SD3-60 (36-39 seats) what options would new start-up airlines have. The SF340? Complex aircraft with expensive engines. The J41? Limited production. EMB120? Possible. A small Dash8? Heavy for passenger numbers. Something from Russia?

But as all of these aircraft are out of production what is going to happen in the future? The smallest aircraft still in production (as far as I am aware) is the ATR42 - 48 seats, which is a little on the large size. The costs of regional jets of the 35-50 seat very poor for start-up airlines.

Go down a size and look at options for the smaller commuter airlines (18 seats). J31/32 - the vast numbers parked in the desert are now probably beyond hope as regards getting them back into the air. EMB110 - limited numbers & non-pressurised. Beech 1900 - possible option but price a problem. Let410 - loads made but unpressurised (Certification issues?). DHC6 - limited numbers and only really suitable for specialist operations (ski, STOL airports etc). And again all of these aircraft are long out of production.

So which manufacturer is going to be brave enough to get back into these markets - 18 & 30 seats?

It is probably a similar situation to the late 50's where the DC3 was the aircraft of choice but people were looking to the future.
 
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RE: Shorts 360NG...?

Sun Mar 25, 2007 6:52 pm

Quoting TIMEAIR (Reply 4):
Quoting EI321 (Reply 3):
Its a shipping container with wings

Yes in which DeHavilland Twin Otter was shipped in!....

I love it. Best thing I've heard on here all week.
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RE: Shorts 360NG...?

Sun Mar 25, 2007 6:58 pm

I love the 360 - nice big windows, nice high ceiling, no fuss no muss - only few on them a few times, in Australia and the Seychelles, but they're cool.
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RE: Shorts 360NG...?

Mon Mar 26, 2007 2:17 am

Quoting Yak97 (Reply 11):
So which manufacturer is going to be brave enough to get back into these markets - 18 & 30 seats?

How large would the market be over 25 years? What would the development costs be for a simple utilitarian aircraft?

If Shorts and the other manufacturers have left the market, might this sector not give some non-aviation manufacturing country the chance to establish a small manufacturing industry? Just a thought.
 
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RE: Shorts 360NG...?

Mon Mar 26, 2007 2:51 am

Shorts is owned by Bombardier are they not? Why would they want to compete with themselves?
 
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RE: Shorts 360NG...?

Mon Mar 26, 2007 4:01 am

Quoting Olympus69 (Reply 15):
Shorts is owned by Bombardier are they not?

Indeed they are. I believe the shorts factory in Belfast manufactures parts for the Bombardier CRJ aircraft.

I really miss these birds now that most of them have retired!I can see how people find the Shorts 330 ugly however the Shorts 360 is beautiful Big grin especially in the following liveries...


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RE: Shorts 360NG...?

Mon Mar 26, 2007 4:37 am

Quoting Legoguy (Reply 16):
can see how people find the Shorts 330 ugly

Lets just say that it would not win a beauty contest.
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RE: Shorts 360NG...?

Mon Mar 26, 2007 4:54 am

Quoting EI321 (Reply 3):

I once worked for shorts for a few months in the late 80's, was in Zweibruecken USAF base, we used the 360's for the transport of spar military aircraftparts between all the airforce bases in Europe. Unfortunately for me the cold war ended and so did my job after only 2 months.
I dont know exactly were Shorts is at the moment, they used to and maybe still have a military division, which used to develope hand held ground to air missile launchers.
 
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Mon Mar 26, 2007 5:01 am

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RE: Shorts 360NG...?

Mon Mar 26, 2007 5:14 am

Well, it seems to have found a niche role up here in the Pacific NW USA...as a smokejumper aircraft. I was talking to the pilots of one, and most of their aircraft are retired Sherpas (C-23? Trying to remember the US Army designation). The Army Reserve still has a few of them, too, I followed one once doing the localizer back course approach at SLE.

When I worked at LRU in the early 1990's, Mesa Airlines had taken over regional flying for whoever was doing United Express out west, and a bunch of Shorts 360's in United Express colors were parked at LRU for desert storage. I'm not sure what happened to all those birds, but they're no longer there.
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RE: Shorts 360NG...?

Mon Mar 26, 2007 5:31 am

Bombardier have owned the air framing part of Shorts since 1989, making over the years major assemblies-usually fuselages, of their RJ's, Biz Jets, as well as Lear jets after Bombardier brought out that range of aircraft.

The missile division remained separate, now a part of the pan European MDBA group. Their principal product being the Mach 4 Starstreak range of close in air defence missiles.

Rubbishing the Shorts commuter-liners from today's context, is like rubbishing a DC-3 in the 1960's, what no pressurisation? Piston engines? What's with the taildragger configuration?

These boxy aircraft from Belfast, were the entry level of many commuter/local operations. They were simple and economic enough, for embryonic airline commuter services, that we now take for granted on pressurised props or even RJ's.
There was nothing really like them 30 years ago, if they were so bad, then Shorts fooled a lot of people, since the SD-330 and 360 sold steadily but well.

But by the late 80's, their time had passed.
Shorts wanted to move to the FJX, a low wing RJ with wing mounted turbofans, however, being in the UK, good luck getting finance for a manufacturing project. In 1989, the UK govt sold off it's remaining shares in Shorts, so Bombardier made them an offer, neatly stopping a potential competitor to their planned line of Challanger Biz Jet based CRJ's at birth.

Shorts had experience since the 1960's with the Skyvan, a rugged light transport, with mostly military sales. But some civil ones too and even a pax version-Olympic used these on local inter Agean Island services for example.

Easy to mock this odd looking range of Shorts commuter aircraft, they were in fact, pioneers in the regional airline world.
 
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RE: Shorts 360NG...?

Mon Mar 26, 2007 5:50 am

Quoting BFS2007 (Reply 18):
I dont know exactly were Shorts is at the moment, they used to and maybe still have a military division, which used to develope hand held ground to air missile launchers.

The Hellfire missile from the Apache is a shorts product.
 
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RE: Shorts 360NG...?

Mon Mar 26, 2007 5:52 am

Shorts were the original manufacturer of the nosegear door on the 777, is this still the case?
 
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RE: Shorts 360NG...?

Mon Mar 26, 2007 6:01 am

Quoting GDB (Reply 21):
Bombardier have owned the air framing part of Shorts since 1989, making over the years major assemblies-usually fuselages, of their RJ's, Biz Jets, as well as Lear jets after Bombardier brought out that range of aircraft.

The missile division remained separate, now a part of the pan European MDBA group. Their principal product being the Mach 4 Starstreak range of close in air defence missiles.

Rubbishing the Shorts commuter-liners from today's context, is like rubbishing a DC-3 in the 1960's, what no pressurisation? Piston engines? What's with the taildragger configuration?

These boxy aircraft from Belfast, were the entry level of many commuter/local operations. They were simple and economic enough, for embryonic airline commuter services, that we now take for granted on pressurised props or even RJ's.
There was nothing really like them 30 years ago, if they were so bad, then Shorts fooled a lot of people, since the SD-330 and 360 sold steadily but well.

But by the late 80's, their time had passed.
Shorts wanted to move to the FJX, a low wing RJ with wing mounted turbofans, however, being in the UK, good luck getting finance for a manufacturing project. In 1989, the UK govt sold off it's remaining shares in Shorts, so Bombardier made them an offer, neatly stopping a potential competitor to their planned line of Challanger Biz Jet based CRJ's at birth.

Shorts had experience since the 1960's with the Skyvan, a rugged light transport, with mostly military sales. But some civil ones too and even a pax version-Olympic used these on local inter Agean Island services for example.

Easy to mock this odd looking range of Shorts commuter aircraft, they were in fact, pioneers in the regional airline world.

RIGHT YOU ARE. And now SHORTS is delegated to the role of component manufacturer. They have no capacity to design a complete airframe anymore. In fact with further moves of manufacturing base to Mexico, I hvae some serious doubts on the their long term viability
 
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RE: Shorts 360NG...?

Mon Mar 26, 2007 6:02 am

To be fair EI321, the Hellfire missile is a US product. However, the version much modified for use from fast jets, now entering RAF service as the Brimstone, is a more local modification built by MDBA, in it's different guidance system too.
 
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RE: Shorts 360NG...?

Mon Mar 26, 2007 6:17 am

Quoting Asturias (Reply 5):
The S360 is possibly the ugliest mass produced airliner the world has ever seen

I would have to argue my friend that this monstrosity is quite possibly the ugliest airliner in the world:


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RE: Shorts 360NG...?

Mon Mar 26, 2007 6:49 am

Quoting Yak97 (Reply 11):
And again all of these aircraft are long out of production.

It seems like somebody's always "planning" to put some of these back in production but realistically the Twotter may actually make it.

Quoting EI321 (Reply 22):

The Hellfire missile from the Apache is a shorts product.

No, it's a Lockheed product made here in Alabama.
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RE: Shorts 360NG...?

Mon Mar 26, 2007 7:03 am

Quoting BHMBAGLOCK (Reply 27):
Quoting EI321 (Reply 22):

The Hellfire missile from the Apache is a shorts product.

No, it's a Lockheed product made here in Alabama.

I just remember seeing an apache documentary that said it uses Shorts Hellfire Missiles, what was it refering to?
 
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RE: Shorts 360NG...?

Mon Mar 26, 2007 7:11 am

Quoting EI321 (Reply 28):

I just remember seeing an apache documentary that said it uses Shorts Hellfire Missiles, what was it refering to?

Besides poor journalism, probably the Brimstone derivative as GDB mentioned.
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RE: Shorts 360NG...?

Mon Mar 26, 2007 10:32 am

Quoting GDB (Reply 21):
Shorts had experience since the 1960's with the Skyvan, a rugged light transport, with mostly military sales. But some civil ones too and even a pax version-Olympic used these on local inter Agean Island services for example.

I have the chance to see the civil one at one of my local Airports. I actually don't dislike it that much!


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Mon Mar 26, 2007 1:28 pm



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RE: Shorts 360NG...?

Tue Mar 27, 2007 12:12 am

I love the Shorts 330 s and 360s and I mess seeing them. The first time I saw a Shorts 330 was a Mississippi Valley Airlines brid in Clinton, Iowa in August of 1981.....It was the strangest thhing that I had ever seen but I liked it!! I always wanted to fly on the 330 but never had the opportunity.....Saw MVA Shorts 330s and 360s all the time in Moline and they were fun to watch....I think the 330 tho is more interesting tho than the 360...
I would not get to fly on a Shorts aircraft until March of 1990 on a Simmons Airlines 360 from Rockford, Illinois to O"Hare.
Yeah, it was boxy inside, it was kind of loud ans slow ( Stil faster than driving) and yeah your ears kinda popped but then your ears pop when ever ATC for O'Hare slam dunks you into the landing sequence. I think that people are just too spoiled and copmplain too much about nothing.
And after the Roselawn accident involving the Simmons ATR-72 when the ATR's were grounded.....The Shorts continued to fly. I felt 1000% safer in the Simmons 360s than the ATR's....
The Shorts big windows were great. I just loved the thing and its a shame that they are not in production to this day.
Not every aircraft needs to be pressurized especially short haul runs. Running a pressurized birds on a short flight just wastes a pressure cycle and decreases the value of the aircraft. I would say that that comfort in the Shorts 360 was fine...
If you had to fly in the thing more than say 1 and half hours then you might be pushing it but anything under that it was fine.
Two fine aircraft that I miss.....At least I have my pictures...

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RE: Shorts 360NG...?

Tue Mar 27, 2007 1:07 am

Quoting EI321 (Reply 17):
Lets just say that it would not win a beauty contest.

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RE: Shorts 360NG...?

Tue Mar 27, 2007 1:47 am

Our favorite punch line for the Shorts 330......"Punching square holes in round clouds"  Smile
 
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RE: Shorts 360NG...?

Tue Mar 27, 2007 4:36 am

The Shed ok it’s ugly. But I am a sucker for different looking aircraft. They all look the same in this day and age.
I have never flown in one sadly. But saying that, sod flying in it with strong cross winds!


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RE: Shorts 360NG...?

Tue Mar 27, 2007 6:20 am

Quoting KELPkid (Reply 20):
Mesa Airlines had taken over regional flying for whoever was doing United Express out west, and a bunch of Shorts 360's in United Express colors were parked at LRU for desert storage. I'm

Westair Commuter Airlines... my first ever flight FAT-SAN Superbowl weekend 1989 -- at the tender age of four -- was on a Westair Shorts 360.

On one hand I wish I could fly on one again -- I have some very fond memories of that flight but can't really remember anything about the aircraft (besides looking up at the nav lights on the wing). On the other hand, I have no huge craving to step foot on an unpressurized aircraft.


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RE: Shorts 360NG...?

Tue Mar 27, 2007 7:19 am

Quoting Imapilotaz (Reply 6):
In the ABQ Airport Administration Offices there is a wood model of a new version of the Shorts 360 designed only for cargo hauling. The aircraft has the same props as on the Q400. It's a sharp looking model. Im trying to remember for the life of me the company that was planning on building them, but they were located somewhere in New Mexico.

Actually, that's not Shorts who is building said a/c. It's a company called Utilicraft Aerospace who is based at LZU but are building the plant at Double Eagle Airport. The a/c is called the FF-1080-300ER.

The now-defunct Ayres Corp. had designed a cargo a/c called the LM-200 Loadmaster but when the company went into bankruptcy, the program died. FedEx had actually ordered 50 of these a/c which were to have been built @ Ayres' plant at ABY.
 
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RE: Shorts 360NG...?

Tue Mar 27, 2007 7:39 am

Quoting Imapilotaz (Reply 6):
In the ABQ Airport Administration Offices there is a wood model of a new version of the Shorts 360 designed only for cargo hauling. The aircraft has the same props as on the Q400. It's a sharp looking model. Im trying to remember for the life of me the company that was planning on building them, but they were located somewhere in New Mexico.

Isn't the company called "NM Trucking"?

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RE: Shorts 360NG...?

Tue Mar 27, 2007 10:56 am

Quoting 2H4 (Reply 31):
There is no such thing as an ugly aircraft. Only a misunderstood aircraft

Amen Brother!!
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RE: Shorts 360NG...?

Wed Mar 28, 2007 12:31 am

I worked on 360s for a number of years. The best thing is they are built like tanks, and with PT-6s, the dispatch reliability rate was 99.6%, a very high number among aircraft. They just flew and flew, reliable as hell. Very few snags. OK, the PT-6 was a pain to rig, but the flight controls were all push/pull tubes, with the exception of the flaps. The gear did retract, and again not a problem system. The fuel tanks are on top of the fuselage, nice and square. To check the oil, you put a ladder up to the horizontal stabilizer, and just walked up the fuselage out to the engines. On nice day they are great to fly in, as TimeAir said, YVR-YYJ, a beatiful flight. However, in the winter, with bad weather, they were bad. Underpowered and unable to fly above the weather, they were a bit of a pig to fly in. But I still have fond memories of them.
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RE: Shorts 360NG...?

Wed Mar 28, 2007 12:45 am

If the weather was good, the Shorts was fun to fly in, a throw back to the DC-3. And compared to the Beech 99's they replaced at MVA, they were an improvement. But in bad weather, they were the worst. Not only were they unpressurized, they rode like a truck, and they A/C system left a lot to be desired. I flew many of them on MVA and Simmons between MLI and ORD, but my worst experience was an Air North flight from ALB to ROC in the summer of 1981. It was hot, and we flew at 8,000 feet in the broken clouds the whole way. It was very unpleasant. I didn't get sick but there were a lot of barf bags used on that flight.
 
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RE: Shorts 360NG...?

Wed Mar 28, 2007 1:47 am

The 330s/360s are not dead. A lot of them were bought by the US Army and turned into C-23s. They are in heavy, daily use in Iraq. The US Army has publically stated that the C-23s are essential to their operations.

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Wed Mar 28, 2007 1:57 am



I wish I was better with Photoshop. It would be fun to whip up an example of a Shorts 360 JET, a la the Do-328....  biggrin 


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RE: Shorts 360NG...?

Wed Mar 28, 2007 3:31 am

Quoting Legoguy (Reply 16):
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She may not have been all that pretty from the outside but the young, lovely & sweet talking stewardesses assigned on provincial flights in various far flung and rugged secondary airports & missionary destinations througout the islands made for very mem'rable flights. It was a 'low and slow' sightseeing trip for me who occasionally flew on these planes.

I am of the impression Philippine Airline's S-360s served very well and had it not been for the Asian Financial crisis which helped cripple the airline in the past decade the 360 could still been flying around.
 
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RE: Shorts 360NG...?

Wed Mar 28, 2007 10:14 am

Quoting 2H4 (Reply 44):
I wish I was better with Photoshop. It would be fun to whip up an example of a Shorts 360 JET, a la the Do-328.... biggrin


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RE: Shorts 360NG...?

Wed Mar 28, 2007 12:06 pm

Quoting Yak97 (Reply 11):
So which manufacturer is going to be brave enough to get back into these markets - 18 & 30 seats?

The Do-328 mentioned above was doing relatively well before the advent of the 328Jet and the demise of Fairchild Dornier.

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I would think that if anyone has a viable design to revive, it's them. I hope the new owners find the business case to do so.

Quoting Stirling (Reply 26):
Followed closely by this little Frankenstein:

The 747SP was one of the better proportioned (aesthetically) aircraft ever. I'd love to see it as a twin with GEnx engines perhaps?
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RE: Shorts 360NG...?

Wed Mar 28, 2007 12:16 pm




Quoting JBo (Reply 46):
Done and done.

Ha, I love it! The winglets are a great touch....as though induced drag is a concern.....  Wink


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RE: Shorts 360NG...?

Wed Mar 28, 2007 12:30 pm

Quoting AeroWeanie (Reply 43):
The 330s/360s are not dead.

Correct. We still have passenger flights with the Shorts 360!!! So if you want to fly one come over to CUR via AUA!! See my photos below:


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