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LH To Order/confirm More A380's?

Tue Mar 27, 2007 2:42 pm

Have just been browsing the airbus route proving mini site and it is states that "halfway through the route proving lufthansa announces it is buying more a380's."

Haven't seen reference to this anywhere else - and dont know if this is their options/new aircraft.

Anybody got any further info?

exact wording is "intends to order more A380's"

(On the second flight page - post it note info)

[Edited 2007-03-27 07:52:38]
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RE: LH To Order/confirm More A380's?

Tue Mar 27, 2007 3:03 pm

On today's ATW Online:

According to a source close to the airline, LH has up to 18 A380 destinations on the radar and plans to select initial gateways one year before putting the aircraft into service.

http://www.atwonline.com/news/story.html?storyID=8356

Wow! How many frames would they need to serve 18 destinations? I guess it would depend on frequency but I assume that routes suitable for an A380 wouldn't only have one service a week.

This would certainly point to further LH orders for the A380.
 
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RE: LH To Order/confirm More A380's?

Tue Mar 27, 2007 3:06 pm

I believe it's not a question of 'will they order more?' but 'when will they order more?'.

http://www.atwonline.com/news/story.html?storyID=8356

According to an article in atwonline LH has upto 18 A380 destinations on the radar. If they'd go ahead with all 18 of them on a daily basis with the majority of the roundtrips taking longer then 24 hours ( ie. NRT, HKG, SIN, BKK, PEK, PVG, CPT, JNB, LAX, SFO,...) they'll need a lot more then the initial order for 15.


from the article,

According to a source close to the airline, LH has up to 18 A380 destinations on the radar and plans to select initial gateways one year before putting the aircraft into service. Johannesburg and Cape Town are among cities under consideration.


edited: I see that PM was quicker with posting the link.  cheers 

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RE: LH To Order/confirm More A380's?

Tue Mar 27, 2007 3:11 pm

didn't they confirm their options??
if they ordered how many should we expect, my $$ less than 8 frames
 
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RE: LH To Order/confirm More A380's?

Tue Mar 27, 2007 3:13 pm

Quoting UAEflyer (Reply 3):
didn't they confirm their options??

Not yet. I believe they have 10 options but I'm prepared to be corrected.

Quoting Manni (Reply 2):
edited: I see that PM was quicker with posting the link. cheers

Only just!  Wink
 
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RE: LH To Order/confirm More A380's?

Tue Mar 27, 2007 3:23 pm

I bet they will announce an order for additional A380 together with their decision on 787/A350s.
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RE: LH To Order/confirm More A380's?

Tue Mar 27, 2007 4:51 pm

Quoting ATW Online (Reply 1):
LH has up to 18 A380 destinations on the radar

The obvious meaning is that 18 LH destinations are being evaluated as to whether the 747-8 or the WhaleJet makes the most business sense.

With 15 WhaleJets plus 20 747-8s replacing 30 747-400s, it is not at all clear that LH will be exercising options for either anytime soon. I believe the 747-8 order probably forclosed the exercise of WhaleJet options and the 747-8 options were taken only as a contingency in case Airbus fail completely to deliver the WhaleJets. Time will tell.
 
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RE: LH To Order/confirm More A380's?

Tue Mar 27, 2007 4:56 pm

I suppose they will definitately order more A380 after the successfull route proving flights.

by the way which are the A380 destinations?

I could think of:

1. JFK
2. LAX
3. IAD
4. HKG
5. ICN
6. NRT
7. ICN
8. MIA
9. SFO
10. DXB
11. BKK
12. PVG
13. BOM
14. DEL
15.
16.
17.
18.

which else?
 
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RE: LH To Order/confirm More A380's?

Tue Mar 27, 2007 4:58 pm

Quoting Zvezda (Reply 6):
I believe the 747-8 order probably forclosed the exercise of WhaleJet options and the 747-8 options were taken only as a contingency in case Airbus fail completely to deliver the WhaleJets. Time will tell.

Last week´s comments from Mr. Mayrhuber clearly point towards a follow-on order from LH for the A380 and indicate that the B747-800 order for 20 firm is likely not to remain at 20 in the long-term. BTW, what is the "WhaleJet"?? Never heard that one before. Are you refering to the A380?
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RE: LH To Order/confirm More A380's?

Tue Mar 27, 2007 5:01 pm

Quoting Flying-Tiger (Reply 8):
what is the "WhaleJet"??

WhaleJet stands for A380 like Jumbo for B747 or Jumbolino for BAe146
 
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RE: LH To Order/confirm More A380's?

Tue Mar 27, 2007 5:09 pm

Quoting PM (Reply 4):
Not yet. I believe they have 10 options but I'm prepared to be corrected.

This is correct 15 orders + 10 options, unless these have been confirmed but not adressed publically.

Quoting Zvezda (Reply 6):
With 15 WhaleJets plus 20 747-8s replacing 30 747-400s

They will probably do much expansion as well, so I can see them converting all their options into orders.

Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 7):
which else?

SIN, PEK, CPT, Johannesburg (is it JHB?)

Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 7):
5. ICN
6. NRT
7. ICN

you mentioned ICN twich, did you mean PEK (same region)?

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RE: LH To Order/confirm More A380's?

Tue Mar 27, 2007 5:15 pm

Quoting CXfirst (Reply 10):
Johannesburg (is it JHB?)

JNB

Quoting CXfirst (Reply 10):

you mentioned ICN twich, did you mean PEK (same region)?

No I did mean ICN (Seoul). This flights are 365 days a year full and the airport is A380 ready soon (KE also ordered some A380s)
 
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RE: LH To Order/confirm More A380's?

Tue Mar 27, 2007 5:23 pm

Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 11):
JNB

Thanks, I always get that wrong....  indifferent 

Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 11):
No I did mean ICN (Seoul).

No, u put it down twice, did u mean ICN and PEK? - well enough about that.

If LH does confirm the A380's that are on option, then they will not confirm all of the 20 748 options. And vice versa.

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RE: LH To Order/confirm More A380's?

Tue Mar 27, 2007 5:27 pm

Quoting CXfirst (Reply 12):
No, u put it down twice, did u mean ICN and PEK? - well enough about that.

Oh, I'm sorry Big grin Now I know what I meant. It was KIX.

Quoting CXfirst (Reply 12):
If LH does confirm the A380's that are on option, then they will not confirm all of the 20 748 options. And vice versa

why not? Would be great to have a big fleet of longhaul aircrafts. Big grin
 
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RE: LH To Order/confirm More A380's?

Tue Mar 27, 2007 5:27 pm

Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 9):
WhaleJet stands for A380 like Jumbo for B747 or Jumbolino for BAe146

... but the term "WhaleJet" is only used by a select number of people on select forums on the internet. Media and most people I know commonly refer to the A380 as the "superjumbo".

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RE: LH To Order/confirm More A380's?

Tue Mar 27, 2007 5:32 pm

Quoting Tom_eddf (Reply 14):
... but the term "WhaleJet" is only used by a select number of people on select forums on the internet. Media and most people I know commonly refer to the A380 as the "superjumbo".

the time will show which term we'll use for the A380 Big grin The plane is still in its infancy  Wink
 
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RE: LH To Order/confirm More A380's?

Tue Mar 27, 2007 5:35 pm

Lufthansa is currently the forth largest A380 customer with 15 frames on orders. Previously they were the second largest customer, but have since been over taken by Qantas and Singapore Airlines.

1*)Emirates 43 + 2 (ILFC)
2*)Qantas 20
3*)Singapore Airlines 19
4*)Lufthansa 15
5*)Air France 10


I would be very surprised if Lufthansa won't at least exercise all it's options. I would also expect such move to happen in the near future.

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RE: LH To Order/confirm More A380's?

Tue Mar 27, 2007 5:43 pm

Another question is what are they going to do with their current fleet of B747 or A343/6 ? Will they keep them and just increase the frequency on several routes or what?

I could imagine to see some B747's flying as LH Cargo in 2012-2015
 
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RE: LH To Order/confirm More A380's?

Tue Mar 27, 2007 5:46 pm

Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 17):
Another question is what are they going to do with their current fleet of B747 or A343/6 ? Will they keep them and just increase the frequency on several routes or what?

I could imagine to see some B747's flying as LH Cargo in 2012-2015

I have always wondered if LH has the option of converting it's 20 firm and 20 options for the B748i into the freighter model?

Does anyone know if they is likely to happen?

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RE: LH To Order/confirm More A380's?

Tue Mar 27, 2007 5:47 pm

Quoting WINGS (Reply 16):
Lufthansa is currently the forth largest A380 customer with 15 frames on orders. Previously they were the second largest customer, but have since been over taken by Qantas and Singapore Airlines.

They'd better do it soon or they'll be down to 5th (when BA orders 20 + 20!)
 
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RE: LH To Order/confirm More A380's?

Tue Mar 27, 2007 6:02 pm

Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 15):
the time will show which term we'll use for the A380

No, superjumbo seems to be the adapted nickname
http://www.google.nl/search?hl=en&q=superjumbo+a380

Whalejet (?) is only used by some bitter a.net members that keep trying to spread the name
http://www.google.nl/search?hl=en&q=whalejet+a380
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RE: LH To Order/confirm More A380's?

Tue Mar 27, 2007 6:05 pm

Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 7):
1. JFK
2. LAX
3. IAD
4. HKG
5. ICN
6. NRT
7. ICN
8. MIA
9. SFO
10. DXB
11. BKK
12. PVG
13. BOM
14. DEL
15.
16.
17.
18.

silly me! how could I forgot ORD, one of the best destination of LH.
 
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RE: LH To Order/confirm More A380's?

Tue Mar 27, 2007 6:12 pm

Quoting EGNRA380 (Thread starter):
Have just been browsing the airbus route proving mini site and it is states that "halfway through the route proving lufthansa announces it is buying more a380's."

Whereabouts does it say that I'm struggling to find it
 
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RE: LH To Order/confirm More A380's?

Tue Mar 27, 2007 6:15 pm

Sorry I've found it now - strange that more fuss hasn't been made of this
 
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RE: LH To Order/confirm More A380's?

Tue Mar 27, 2007 6:21 pm

Quoting WINGS (Reply 18):

Does anyone know if they is likely to happen?

Lufthansa Cargo is a separate company, which does not mean that they could eventually take over slots if required.

LHCargo is not making any investments at the moment as there is a silly night curfew attached to the new runway expansion at FRA. If that night curfew is actually imposed, the existance of LH Cargo in its present form is threatened.
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RE: LH To Order/confirm More A380's?

Tue Mar 27, 2007 7:01 pm

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 24):
LHCargo is not making any investments at the moment

Might be one argument of several. I rather guess that they are very reluctant to pay high(est) prices now on top of the cycle for new equipment, and that they rather want to wait for a couple of years during the next down-cycle to pick up several of the never-goig-to-by-picked-up-by-original-customer B747-800Fs for a drastically lower price...
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RE: LH To Order/confirm More A380's?

Tue Mar 27, 2007 7:13 pm

Quoting Flying-Tiger (Reply 25):

Might be one argument of several. I rather guess that they are very reluctant to pay high(est) prices now on top of the cycle for new equipment, and that they rather want to wait for a couple of years during the next down-cycle to pick up several of the never-goig-to-by-picked-up-by-original-customer B747-800Fs for a drastically lower price.

That's not the way a blue chip company is run. LCAG is in air cargo and not in gambling. Fact is that they have deferred all investments, including in a new cargo centre, for the time beeing. Planning is difficult when you cannot make full use a Billion $$$ investment What happens at FRA is a perfect example how stupid politics are holding back jobs and investments.

Besides, the plane is called B747-8F and has the upper end of the market pretty much for itself right now, after the 380F proved to be the wrong plane at the wrong time.I don't see any cancellations but more orders, check today's FI.
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RE: LH To Order/confirm More A380's?

Tue Mar 27, 2007 7:14 pm

Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 7):

I heard MEX and GRU were being studied too... Maybe ORD. That would leave 1 gateway unacounted for.
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RE: LH To Order/confirm More A380's?

Tue Mar 27, 2007 7:15 pm

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 26):
Besides, the plane is called B747-8F and has the upper end of the market pretty much for itself right now, after the 380F proved to be the wrong plane at the wrong time.I don't see any cancellations but more orders, check today's FI.

Agreed the 748F seems to be the right lane and the right time and the right price.
 
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RE: LH To Order/confirm More A380's?

Tue Mar 27, 2007 7:16 pm

Quoting SAOAP (Reply 27):
That would leave 1 gateway unaccounted for.

I assume it's the FRA-TXL shuttle to replace - at last - the A300s!  Wink
 
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RE: LH To Order/confirm More A380's?

Tue Mar 27, 2007 7:23 pm

Quoting Flying-Tiger (Reply 8):
Last week´s comments from Mr. Mayrhuber clearly point towards a follow-on order from LH for the A380 and indicate that the B747-800 order for 20 firm is likely not to remain at 20 in the long-term.

Lufthansa has always pointed out that their biggest rivals are the Gulf carriers such as EK and that they can only grow on long haul routes. EK will have more than 40 A348 and 50 777-300 aircraft in a few years. Also an order for 747-8I is not impossible for EK.
If LH convert all options it has on A380s and 747-8Is they would have a fleet of 25 A380 and 40 747-830I that would be 65 VLA.
BA for example operates currently 57 747-400s and will likely replace them by an equal number or even larger number of 747-8Is and A380s. So 65 aircraft in the category of 747-8 and A380 does not seem too big in comparison with LH´s main competitioners.

Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 17):
Another question is what are they going to do with their current fleet of B747 or A343/6 ? Will they keep them and just increase the frequency on several routes or what?

I could imagine to see some B747's flying as LH Cargo in 2012-2015

The 747-430 will all be replaced with 747-830 and A380. Maybe LH Cargo will take some 747s but they said they don´t want to take converted aircraft anymore. I believe some of 747-430s are combis maybe LHC would take those.

Quoting WINGS (Reply 18):
I have always wondered if LH has the option of converting it's 20 firm and 20 options for the B748i into the freighter model?

Does anyone know if they is likely to happen?

Well as the order was placed it was said the purchase rights were for the 747-8I only but I can think that maybe LH Cargo will take some of the delivery slots for 5-10 747-8Fs.
Cargolux just ordered additional 747-8s and Air France has a also 777-200F and 747-400ERF on order and I doubt that LH Cargo can compete with their MD 11s over the next years. LH Cargo recently announced that they made profit last year so I expect an order for new aircraft in the next 24 months.
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RE: LH To Order/confirm More A380's?

Tue Mar 27, 2007 7:28 pm

Quoting PM (Reply 29):
I assume it's the FRA-TXL shuttle to replace - at last - the A300s!

 Wink but I doubt a that there still will be a FRA-TXL shuttle in 4 years. FRA-BER on the other hand will likely see at least one A330 per day together with a couple of A32x flights
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RE: LH To Order/confirm More A380's?

Tue Mar 27, 2007 7:39 pm

Quoting Columba (Reply 31):

Wink but I doubt a that there still will be a FRA-TXL shuttle in 4 years.

'Ya never know in Berlin. May be BBI turns into a pink elephant?

Whatevere, I challenge the 2011 opening date for BBI.

As to the potential 380 destinations - take one in India and one in China, elimiate ICN (double) and you got the total.
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RE: LH To Order/confirm More A380's?

Tue Mar 27, 2007 7:50 pm

Quoting Keesje (Reply 20):
No, superjumbo seems to be the adapted nickname
http://www.google.nl/search?hl=en&q=superjumbo+a380

Whalejet (?) is only used by some bitter a.net members that keep trying to spread the name
http://www.google.nl/search?hl=en&q=...+a380

Hey, the hit count is only 900.000 vs 2.000 and you are already drawing conclusions...

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RE: LH To Order/confirm More A380's?

Tue Mar 27, 2007 7:54 pm

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 24):
If that night curfew is actually imposed, the existance of LH Cargo in its present form is threatened.

I guess CGN will be the winner in this case.
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RE: LH To Order/confirm More A380's?

Tue Mar 27, 2007 7:55 pm

Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 13):
why not? Would be great to have a big fleet of longhaul aircrafts.

This is a huge increase in VLA, but it might happen.

Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 17):
Another question is what are they going to do with their current fleet of B747 or A343/6 ?

They can't really replace the A343/6 with 747 and A380's (maybe A346, but those are so new), so they will either keep these longer or go to 787 or A350's.

Quoting WINGS (Reply 18):
I have always wondered if LH has the option of converting it's 20 firm and 20 options for the B748i into the freighter model?

Does anyone know if they is likely to happen?

Not likely, if they wanted freighters and not the passenger, they would have gotten freighters.

Quoting Columba (Reply 30):
If LH convert all options it has on A380s and 747-8Is they would have a fleet of 25 A380 and 40 747-830I that would be 65 VLA.

Too many in my view.

Here's the destinations I think:

1. ORD
2. JFK
3. SFO
4. LAX
5. NRT
6. ICN
7. PEK
8. PVG
9. DEL
10. BOM
11. JNB
12. ICN
13. BKK
14. SIN
15. MIA
16. HKG
17. IAD
18. DXB

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RE: LH To Order/confirm More A380's?

Tue Mar 27, 2007 8:36 pm

Quoting TommyBP251b (Reply 34):

I guess CGN will be the winner in this case.

with a 100% night curfew there will be no winners, only losers. The all important connectivity between freighter and passenger aircraft cannot be mainatined if freighters have to land somewhere else during the night and if flights are re scheduled, business will be lost because many overnight destinations won't be possible.

Quoting CXfirst (Reply 35):
Too many in my view.

Here's the destinations I think

ICN is still double. Take one in China or India, plus either CPT/JNB,take out MIA instead.
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RE: LH To Order/confirm More A380's?

Tue Mar 27, 2007 8:53 pm

Still remember the press conference where John Leahy said customers showed great satisfaction with the A380 by ordering more, and then specifically mentioned QF, SQ and LH... only to correct himself on the latter in a rather unclear way?

My guess: LH has silently excercised all their A380 options and Airbus will announce the mews at Le Bourget, along with the mega order of QR (80 A350XWB and additional A388s)... If BA can be convinced before the summer, those 3 orders alone are bound to blow anything Boeing can come up with (e.g. EK finally makes up their mind and signs for 100 787) off the front pages...
 
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RE: LH To Order/confirm More A380's?

Tue Mar 27, 2007 10:46 pm

Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 7):
1. JFK
2. LAX
3. IAD
4. HKG
5. ICN
6. NRT
7. ICN
8. MIA
9. SFO
10. DXB
11. BKK
12. PVG
13. BOM
14. DEL
15.
16.
17.
18.

which else?

I would add ORD, MEX, GRU, JNB.
 
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RE: LH To Order/confirm More A380's?

Tue Mar 27, 2007 10:48 pm

Quoting Slz396 (Reply 37):
My guess: LH has silently excercised all their A380 options and Airbus will announce the mews at Le Bourget, along with the mega order of QR (80 A350XWB and additional A388s)... If BA can be convinced before the summer, those 3 orders alone are bound to blow anything Boeing can come up with (e.g. EK finally makes up their mind and signs for 100 787) off the front pages...

They'd have an even better show if Ek chose to buy 100 copies of the XWb too!
 
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RE: LH To Order/confirm More A380's?

Tue Mar 27, 2007 11:14 pm

Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 9):
WhaleJet stands for A380 like Jumbo for B747 or Jumbolino for BAe146

Not really. The 380 is sometimes called Super-Jumbo in the general news, but the silly whale nickname is really only known to a.net nerds.

It's just not very catchy I guess.

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RE: LH To Order/confirm More A380's?

Wed Mar 28, 2007 3:47 am

Quoting Slz396 (Reply 37):
LH has silently excercised all their A380 options and Airbus will announce the mews at Le Bourget, along with the mega order of QR (80 A350XWB and additional A388s)... If BA can be convinced before the summer, those 3 orders alone are bound to blow anything Boeing can come up with (e.g. EK finally makes up their mind and signs for 100 787) off the front pages...

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I also would not be surprised if EK orders the A350...... The only way boeing could blow this would be if they announced a 737/757 replacement, with WN and AA as launch customers......I think it will be interesting to see what happens at Le Bourget.
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RE: LH To Order/confirm More A380's?

Wed Mar 28, 2007 3:52 am

Quoting Slz396 (Reply 37):
Still remember the press conference where John Leahy said customers showed great satisfaction with the A380 by ordering more, and then specifically mentioned QF, SQ and LH... only to correct himself on the latter in a rather unclear way?

When was that? Do you know the date?
 
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RE: LH To Order/confirm More A380's?

Wed Mar 28, 2007 4:18 am

Quoting Zvezda (Reply 42):
When was that? Do you know the date?

the Airbus annual press conference on 17 January in Paris.
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RE: LH To Order/confirm More A380's?

Wed Mar 28, 2007 4:26 am

Thanks Keesje. That brackets when LH might have exercised WhaleJet options, if they have. If could not have been before 6 Dec 2006, when LH ordered the 747-8, because had LH already exercised WhaleJet options then, they would have announced it in order to get a better deal from Boeing on 747-8s. So why would LH buy 747-8s first and then within 6 weeks exercise WhaleJet options? Not to get a better price from Airbus, as the price would have been fixed when the options were purchased along with LH's original WhaleJet order in 2001. So, I find this theory unlikely. It would have made more sense for LH to exercise the WhaleJet options first, then announce that, in order to get a better deal on the 747-8s. Am I missing something?
 
slz396
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RE: LH To Order/confirm More A380's?

Wed Mar 28, 2007 4:49 am

Quoting Keesje (Reply 43):
the Airbus annual press conference on 17 January in Paris.

Thank you;
I couldn't find the date, but luckily there are always members with an eye for details like these.

Quoting Zvezda (Reply 44):
I find this theory unlikely

What theory?

The one you came up with (linking the A380 with the 748, something LH has always vehemently refused to do, saying both planes belong in a different category) or the fact LH has discretely committed to extra A380s like I suggest?

Quoting Zvezda (Reply 44):
Am I missing something?

If you were referring to the later one of the above two theories, then clearly the answer is yes... the statement on the Airbus website which clearly says: "halfway through the route proving, lufthansa announces it intends to order more A380's."
 
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RE: LH To Order/confirm More A380's?

Wed Mar 28, 2007 4:56 am

Quoting Slz396 (Reply 45):
If you were referring to the later one of the above two theories, then clearly the answer is yes... the statement on the Airbus website which clearly says: "halfway through the route proving, lufthansa announces it intends to order more A380's."

That is a very optimistic (to put it generously) paraphrase of what Mayrhuber actually said. All he said was that LH have placed follow-on orders to prior models. That may or may not have been a hint. It was certainly not an announcement.

Also, the assertions that LH will order more WhaleJets and the assertion that LH have already ordered more WhaleJets are contradictary.

All I see here is a lot of optimistic exhuberance and tea leaf reading.
 
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RE: LH To Order/confirm More A380's?

Wed Mar 28, 2007 7:40 am

Strong candidates for the A380 on the LH network:

1. JFK
2. EWR
3. IAD
4. ORD
5. LAX
6. SFO
7. MIA
8. BOM
9. NRT
10. PVG
11. PEK
12. HKG
13. BKK
14. SIN
15. GRU
16. MEX
17. JNB
18. DEL

Other very strong candidates that could eventually make it on the LH A380:
Denver
Tel Aviv
Chennai
Cairo
Dubai
Seoul
Toronto
Vancouver
Boston

Considering 20 B748s with another 20 options potentially turning into firm order, and 15 A380s with another 10 options being soon turned into order; I'd say LH is on the verge of a major expansion program....
 
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RE: LH To Order/confirm More A380's?

Wed Mar 28, 2007 8:45 am

Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 7):
could think of:

1. JFK
2. LAX
3. IAD
4. HKG
5. ICN
6. NRT
7. ICN
8. MIA
9. SFO
10. DXB
11. BKK
12. PVG
13. BOM
14. DEL
15.
16.
17.
18.

Singapore and Shanghai are some the A380 will se in Lufthansa colors. Boston is also missing, Sao Paulo & J'berg are another pair missing.
 
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RE: LH To Order/confirm More A380's?

Wed Mar 28, 2007 11:50 pm

Quoting Zvezda (Reply 46):
That is a very optimistic (to put it generously) paraphrase of what Mayrhuber actually said. All he said was that LH have placed follow-on orders to prior models. That may or may not have been a hint. It was certainly not an announcement.

Why do you assume that

Quoting Slz396 (Reply 45):
"halfway through the route proving, lufthansa announces it intends to order more A380's.

is a reference to Mayrhuber saying that LH have placed follow-on orders to prior models?