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It Is Now Air Indian

Thu Mar 29, 2007 12:11 pm

http://www.rediff.com/money/2007/mar/29airindian.htm

New merged name of Air India and Indian Airlines is Air Indian. Like it? Not like it?
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RE: It Is Now Air Indian

Thu Mar 29, 2007 12:20 pm

Ugh!! Not like it!!!!


Either it is grammatically nonsensical, in that they are taking the adjective "Indian" and placing it after "Air" when traditionally it is a countries name after "Air" or they are doing something perhaps novel yet ridiculous by putting the name of the nationality after air.

[Edited 2007-03-29 05:42:24]
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RE: It Is Now Air Indian

Thu Mar 29, 2007 1:10 pm

They should keep the name Air India.

Air Indian sounds wrong, like Air French , Air Canadian or Air New Zealander !
 
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RE: It Is Now Air Indian

Thu Mar 29, 2007 1:44 pm

didnt they just do a new livery with the words AIR INDIA???

and yes....it does not sound gramatically correct!!!
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RE: It Is Now Air Indian

Thu Mar 29, 2007 1:47 pm

Quoting Schipholjfk (Thread starter):
New merged name of Air India and Indian Airlines is Air Indian.

 yuck   thumbsdown 
 
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RE: It Is Now Air Indian

Thu Mar 29, 2007 1:48 pm

Quoting Schipholjfk (Thread starter):
Like it? Not like it?

If they kept chubby Maharajah as their mascot, I like it Big grin
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RE: It Is Now Air Indian

Thu Mar 29, 2007 1:53 pm

"Indian Air" sounds better IMO, but could be misinterpreted as something else.
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RE: It Is Now Air Indian

Thu Mar 29, 2007 1:57 pm

It is a rather silly idea to call the merged airline "Air Indian". It makes no sense at all. The only saving grace is that the Maharajah will be retained as it's mascot.
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RE: It Is Now Air Indian

Thu Mar 29, 2007 2:17 pm

Quoting Himmat01 (Reply 7):
The only saving grace is that the Maharajah will be retained as it's mascot.

That's great      

[Edited 2007-03-29 07:18:22]
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RE: It Is Now Air Indian

Thu Mar 29, 2007 2:21 pm

Maybe they should have gone with "Air India(n)" - that's about the only thing dumber.
 
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RE: It Is Now Air Indian

Thu Mar 29, 2007 2:22 pm

Quoting Detroitflyer (Reply 3):
didnt they just do a new livery with the words AIR INDIA???

How tough is it to send a painter up there to add an additional "N" after "AIR INDIA" Big grin  Wink?
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RE: It Is Now Air Indian

Thu Mar 29, 2007 2:48 pm

People will think its the airline of the Native American peoples.

Really Really stupid name. Air-India is just fine.
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RE: It Is Now Air Indian

Thu Mar 29, 2007 2:49 pm

Quoting Nimish (Reply 10):
How tough is it to send a painter up there to add an additional "N" after "AIR INDIA"

Forget paint, that might actually require skill. Just use a decal! That's what they did with their current 777s where they were missing a hyphen on one side or something like that.
 
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RE: It Is Now Air Indian

Thu Mar 29, 2007 3:04 pm

How original! .... I'm sure they really scratched their heads on this one ...  Big grin

Quoting NW727251ADV (Reply 11):
People will think its the airline of the Native American peoples.

It's about time people began referring to Native Americans as Native Americans. The name Indian stayed in usage only because the initial European explorers thought that they had landed in India and called the natives Indians.

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RE: It Is Now Air Indian

Thu Mar 29, 2007 3:06 pm

Us Indians speak better English than most other people who speak English. The "Air Indian" proposal tells the world that we don't know our English!

The "Air Indian" attempt will be a disastrous try at merging, de-branding and re-branding. The intellectual capabilities of the unionized staff who agreed to this silly nomenclature are quite clear, they are quite incapable of thinking beyond a point.

Here is an opportunity to create a world-class Airline with (proabably) a new name and a new identity. If they didn't want a new name, they should have stuck with either "Air India" which is clear and crisp, or "Indian" which is not bad either. But to do a "khichdi" of it by calling it "Air Indian" is completely crazy.

Mr Praful Patel, what are you doing ??? Please use your veto power (if it exists with the moronic unions) to block this crazy proposal and appoint a good agency/consultants to do the job. If you are going to spend hundreds of crores for this merger, might as well spend a few lakhs to pay an agency to come up with something better.
 
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RE: It Is Now Air Indian

Thu Mar 29, 2007 3:15 pm

Quoting SM777 (Reply 14):
Us Indians speak better English than most other people who speak English. The "Air Indian" proposal tells the world that we don't know our English!

So does "Us Indians"  Wink
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RE: It Is Now Air Indian

Thu Mar 29, 2007 3:17 pm

I guess it should be "We Indians" Mr English Teacher Atmx2000 ???
 
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RE: It Is Now Air Indian

Thu Mar 29, 2007 3:25 pm

"India Air" would have been better.

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RE: It Is Now Air Indian

Thu Mar 29, 2007 3:36 pm

So many possibilites.......

MAHARAJAH AIR or AIR MAHARAJA / MAHARAJAH

ROYAL INDIAN ( using the Maharaja logo )

INDIA INTERNATIONAL

INDIA OCEANIC ( like Virgin Atlantic )

My humble contribution above......... surely, if some of us A.netters put on our thinking caps I am sure we would come up with several workable options / alternatives to "Air Indian"  crazy 
 
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RE: It Is Now Air Indian

Thu Mar 29, 2007 4:02 pm

Personally they should have stuck with Air India atleast when compared to Air Indian, wow it seems they might hav really scratched their brain cells to come up with that  sarcasam 

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Thu Mar 29, 2007 4:14 pm

Going by the reasoning behing the new name I wonder if the new livery will also be a combination of AI and IC's new ones, maybe they will throw in AIX and Alliance Air's liveries too. Should be interesting to watch, red, white, orange, blue and white all on one aircraft. Will certainly stand out.  crazy 

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RE: It Is Now Air Indian

Thu Mar 29, 2007 4:17 pm

Quoting BigTom (Reply 20):
Going by the reasoning behing the new name I wonder if the new livery will also be a combination of AI and IC's new ones, maybe they will throw in AIX and Alliance Air's liveries too. Should be interesting to watch, red, white, orange, blue and white all on one aircraft. Will certainly stand out

Absolutely. And the new name of all the carriers combined, can then be KHICHDI AIRWAYS.........
 
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RE: It Is Now Air Indian

Thu Mar 29, 2007 8:46 pm

Air Indian?  rotfl   rotfl   rotfl 

That's even worse than renaming Hapag Lloyd into HapagFly and into TUIfly afterwards... or Condor into Thomas Cook into Condor... or Corsair into CorseFly... or Britannia into ThompsonFly (or whatever they're called these days)...

Why do airlines give up established names and replace them with something strange? Then again, it's not just airlines - that rebranding trend seems to be high up the lists in just about all industries: several of the well known old and established brands in Europe have renamed themselves in the last couple of years into some new name that sounds like some psycho on LSD made it up...  Yeah sure

Air Indian... seriously... what's next? Lufthansanian? Qantas rebranded into Oztraliastic Airways? AA going Amerioways?
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RE: It Is Now Air Indian

Thu Mar 29, 2007 10:18 pm

 rotfl   rotfl   rotfl 

Reminds me of the old man in "Goodness Gracious Me" comedy show that used to be on BBC.

"INDIAN!" The Queen? "INDIAN!" Prince Philip? "INDIAN!" Derek Trotter? "INDIAN!"

Why didn't they use "India Airlines" instead? Mind you I guess it's cheaper to have a little man up a rickety ladder with a bucket of red paint sticking an "N" on the end of all the titles!
 
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RE: It Is Now Air Indian

Thu Mar 29, 2007 10:59 pm

Air Indian could be grammatically correct if it referred to the Indian Ocean rather than India, the country.

However, that doesn't change the fact that it still sounds stupid.
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RE: It Is Now Air Indian

Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:07 pm

Oy Vey...this name is horrible.

Why not? India Airlines or Indian the National Airline of India (in smaller letters) much like IBERIA Lineas Aereas de España (Airlines of Spain).
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RE: It Is Now Air Indian

Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:40 pm

Quoting SM777 (Reply 14):
Us Indians speak better English than most other people who speak English.

I'd like to see you still say that after phoning the customer service telephone number of your average utility supplier here in the UK...  sarcastic 

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RE: It Is Now Air Indian

Fri Mar 30, 2007 12:10 am

Why not Air India? Thats worked pretty fine until now. Like others, I want to question whether its even gramatically correct? I guess it is in some sense, but even so it sounds awful. Air British? Air French?

Quoting RobK (Reply 26):
I'd like to see you still say that after phoning the customer service telephone number of your average utility supplier here in the UK...

Lol.... funny you should say that I've just been talking to Barclaycard! Then again I was speaking to O2 yesterday and their Scottish call centres aren't much better  duck 
 
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RE: It Is Now Air Indian

Fri Mar 30, 2007 12:11 am

Quoting BigTom (Reply 20):
new livery will also be a combination of AI and IC's new ones,

I hear the Konark Wheel will be part of the new livery with the centaur having an inglorious demise.
My humble suggestion for the new name, "INDIAN INTERCONTINENTAL AIRLINES" with the first two routes annouced as BOM-SYD and BOM-DXB-GRU with DXB-GRU using fifth freedom thus giving AI presence in the six continents. DXB is a quasi AI hub with AIX serving 10 stations and main line serving few more.

 duck 

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RE: It Is Now Air Indian

Fri Mar 30, 2007 12:31 am

That is one of the dumbest names for a flag carrier that I've ever heard. Leave it to Indian politicians to decide a new name in committee. Ugh!
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RE: It Is Now Air Indian

Fri Mar 30, 2007 12:33 am

Yep, totally sounds rediculous, not much thought went in to that!!!!!
 
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RE: It Is Now Air Indian

Fri Mar 30, 2007 12:41 am

Quoting BigTom (Reply 13):
The name Indian stayed in usage only because the initial European explorers thought that they had landed in India and called the natives Indians.

It stayed in use because the Indians kept it in use even after us westerners learned better. There are quite a few organizations here in the states with the word Indian in them, all Native American organizations. The Indians themselves use the word, especially when talking about casinos.

Further, it is not uncommon for multiple areas of the world to use the same names for land and people based on who settled the area. One drive around New York state and you'll find the name of just about every city in the UK somewhere, as well as many cities in Germany and Greece and Italy, etc...

Quoting SM777 (Reply 16):
I guess it should be "We Indians" Mr English Teacher Atmx2000

Hey, he wasn't the one saying how perfect your English was, you were.  Wink
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RE: It Is Now Air Indian

Fri Mar 30, 2007 1:34 am

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 31):
as well as many cities in Germany and Greece and Italy, etc.

At the risk of hijacking the thread, there are 7 Delhis in the US, in Louisiana, California, New York, Iowa, Arkansas and Missouri. Also the only Bombay in the world is in New York. You can also find Madras and Calcutta.

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RE: It Is Now Air Indian

Fri Mar 30, 2007 1:36 am

Quoting VTNYC (Reply 32):
At the risk of hijacking the thread, there are 7 Delhis in the US, in Louisiana, California, New York, Iowa, Arkansas and Missouri.

I believe there's one in Ontario too.....also a Lucknow in ON  smile 
 
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RE: It Is Now Air Indian

Fri Mar 30, 2007 2:44 am

he he he he, a stupid name , who is the genius who came up with this name, another blunder by the AIR INDIA organization
 
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RE: It Is Now Air Indian

Fri Mar 30, 2007 2:49 am

Quoting Mtsubshe (Reply 34):
he he he he, a stupid name , who is the genius who came up with this name, another blunder by the AIR INDIA organization

Maybe they contacted the an advertising firm in Japan? They love to throw western words together that don't quite fit. Of course, we do the same in the USA with foreign words, we just don't realize it because, well, we don't speak those languages.

Putting words together that don't make sense for the names of products is a universal problem. I guess Air India just wanted to do it on a bigger scale?
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RE: It Is Now Air Indian

Fri Mar 30, 2007 2:58 am

Quoting VTNYC (Reply 32):
Also the only Bombay in the world is in New York.

at the risk of really hijacking the thread - there is one in New Zealand as well .
 
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RE: It Is Now Air Indian

Fri Mar 30, 2007 3:16 am

Quoting Leskova (Reply 22):
Air Indian?

That's even worse than renaming Hapag Lloyd into HapagFly and into TUIfly afterwards... or Condor into Thomas Cook into Condor... or Corsair into CorseFly... or Britannia into ThompsonFly (or whatever they're called these days)...

 checkmark   checkmark   checkmark  Exactly. Some of the worst examples of slaughtering some excellent and successful brand names that everybody new.

Quoting MIASkies (Reply 25):
Indian the National Airline of India (in smaller letters) much like IBERIA Lineas Aereas de España (Airlines of Spain).

I'd go with that.
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RE: It Is Now Air Indian

Fri Mar 30, 2007 3:16 am

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 35):
Maybe they contacted the an advertising firm in Japan? They love to throw western words together that don't quite fit. Of course, we do the same in the USA with foreign words, we just don't realize it because, well, we don't speak those languages.

Putting words together that don't make sense for the names of products is a universal problem. I guess Air India just wanted to do it on a bigger scale?

I'm sure that those who made the decision would have realised that they are putting up a name which is gramatically wrong and awkward to use.....English usage in India is strong enough to eliminate that sort of a mistake as a reason for this ridiculous name.....

This is obviously a clumsy and short-sighted solution to appease both AI and IC staff and unions that the new name is a combination of 'Air-india' and 'Indian'....absolutely senseless and will definitely result in a further change of name, couple of years down the line.....more fuel for a.netters Big grin

I've been out of the country for a while, but maybe a.netters in India can confirm this: since the change of IC's name from Indian Airlines to 'Indian', have people really started calling it 'Indian' or do they still by and large continue to call it Indian Airlines as it always was.....?
 
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RE: It Is Now Air Indian

Fri Mar 30, 2007 3:25 am

Why were the unions even asked? They should have nothing to do with the name of the airline. Most of them should be thanking their lucky stars they are even employed.
 
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RE: It Is Now Air Indian

Fri Mar 30, 2007 3:28 am

Quoting Schipholjfk (Thread starter):
New merged name of Air India and Indian Airlines is Air Indian

It sucks. Indian Air would have been gramatically better, although I'm for keeping the Air India brand.

Quoting Detroitflyer (Reply 3):
didnt they just do a new livery with the words AIR INDIA???

That's correct. Even though I like the old AI colourscheme better.

Quoting Leskova (Reply 22):
That's even worse than renaming Hapag Lloyd into HapagFly and into TUIfly afterwards... or Condor into Thomas Cook into Condor... or Corsair into CorseFly... or Britannia into ThompsonFly (or whatever they're called these days)...

Actually it's Corsairfly and Thomsonfly (but don't forget Arkefly, Jetairfly aka TUI Airlines Belgium, and TUIFly Nordic aka Britannia Nordic).  Wink I agree though, this constant rebranding is getting little by little out of control. At least when the first airlines were formed, people were more original, now it's just whatever they come up when they're bored and have to think of a new name.
 
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RE: It Is Now Air Indian

Fri Mar 30, 2007 3:39 am

I don't undestand why airlines call themselves AIR (Anything). You don't get shipping companies call themsleves Water (Anything).

I believe Airlines or Airways as in (Anything) Airways or (Anything) Airlines is what airlines should name themselves as it reffers to the actual business rather than a thing.

Air Indian...PPPPPLLLLLLEEEEEEAAAASSSSSSSEEEEEE...I think this post is a joke.
 
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RE: It Is Now Air Indian

Fri Mar 30, 2007 3:45 am

AIR INDIAN simply doesn't make sense.

It's not correct English.
 
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RE: It Is Now Air Indian

Fri Mar 30, 2007 3:51 am

Mahrajah mascot actually looks more like a door man at fancy hotels.
 
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RE: It Is Now Air Indian

Fri Mar 30, 2007 3:53 am

Quoting Sammyk (Reply 39):
Why were the unions even asked? They should have nothing to do with the name of the airline. Most of them should be thanking their lucky stars they are even employed.

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Probably a ploy to ward off some of the foreseeable red flag protests that are certain to materialise from the unions, once the painful process of merger begins......."see, we consulted you at every step, even to the extent of letting you select the (ridiculous) name for the new entity!!"
 
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RE: It Is Now Air Indian

Fri Mar 30, 2007 3:54 am

Quoting DEVILFISH (Reply 6):
"Indian Air" sounds better



Quoting Tugger (Reply 17):
"India Air" would have been better.

Indian Air "Something curry in the air"
 
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RE: It Is Now Air Indian

Fri Mar 30, 2007 3:56 am

Don't like it. Air India, Indian Airlines or something unique like India Elite would have been better.
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RE: It Is Now Air Indian

Fri Mar 30, 2007 4:05 am

Quoting LHRGregSE4 (Reply 41):
I don't undestand why airlines call themselves AIR (Anything). You don't get shipping companies call themsleves Water (Anything).

No but they use the term "sea" so it's basically the same idea.
 
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RE: It Is Now Air Indian

Fri Mar 30, 2007 4:23 am

Quoting SM777 (Reply 21):

 spin   spin 
 
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RE: It Is Now Air Indian

Fri Mar 30, 2007 4:26 am

It sounds corny at first but once you think about it, it makes sense.

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