TWA902fly
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United Has Gone Crazy.

Fri Jul 28, 2000 12:35 pm

My friend flew United from Denver to Chicago. the plane went to Utica, New York, cause the pilot and co-pilot got the wrong information. HOW can this happen??? Whats up with UAL?
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RE: United Has Gone Crazy.

Fri Jul 28, 2000 1:06 pm

That is crazy, but I do not believe it. Pilots know where they are scheduled to fly each day and they would have noticed that it was the wrong info. Maybe your friend was not telling the truth.  
 
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RE: United Has Gone Crazy.

Fri Jul 28, 2000 1:38 pm

I always knew Untied was crazy, But not that crazy

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LGW
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Well,

Fri Jul 28, 2000 3:37 pm

UAL R CRAP
 
AC_A340
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RE: United Has Gone Crazy.

Fri Jul 28, 2000 9:27 pm

I don't believe it. UAL is the best.
 
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RE: United Has Gone Crazy.

Sat Jul 29, 2000 1:44 am

No they are not the best.
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RE: United Has Gone Crazy.

Sat Jul 29, 2000 1:52 am

UAL has been crazy since they had a 2x5x2 seating in the 777. They should have gone for a 2x4x3 seating like Swissair and KLM did in their MD-11s. alot more comfier. or a 3x3x3. I flew aircrafts with the 2x5x2 config transcon, trans pacific and trans atalntic. Very vncomfortable especially in the middle.
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RE: United Has Gone Crazy.

Sat Jul 29, 2000 1:53 am

UAL has been crazy since they had a 2x5x2 seating in the 777. They should have gone for a 2x4x3 seating like Swissair and KLM did in their MD-11s. alot more comfier. or a 3x3x3. I flew aircrafts with the 2x5x2 config transcon, trans pacific and trans atalntic. Very vncomfortable especially in the middle.
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RE: United Has Gone Crazy.

Sat Jul 29, 2000 2:29 am

As long as there is 9 abreast with two aisles there will always be a seat that is two seats away from the aisle. And besides I don't hear you complaining about Continentals 2x5x2 seating or AA's for that matter same goes for NW's DC-10's.

UAL is the best.
 
TWA902fly
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RE: United Has Gone Crazy.

Sat Jul 29, 2000 3:06 am

at least its not 3-4-3 like BA. Im flying to ANC in august, i dont wanna end up in BDA you know
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Are You Sure?

Sat Jul 29, 2000 3:26 am

Are you positive that two AIRLINE PILOTS could mistake CHICAGO, IL for UTICA, NY??? Does United's mainline operation (i.e. non-Express) even SERVE Utica?
 
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RE: United Has Gone Crazy.

Sat Jul 29, 2000 3:49 am

www.untied.com That explains it all

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RE: United Has Gone Crazy.

Sat Jul 29, 2000 3:55 am

Are you sure?
 
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RE: United Has Gone Crazy.

Sat Jul 29, 2000 3:58 am

Firstly, I don't live in the US, so I know practically nothing on US airline operations.

Is United that bad? Or are you saying their service is bad within the US? What about their International operations?

I thought they were meant to be quite good, as a friend I have in the UK, flies with them to Buenos Aires ex-LHR, and has nothing but praise for their service (I think he flies club class though-"Connoisseur Class" on UA isn't it?)

As for the above flight arriving at the wrong destination, it's certainly happened before!
 
TWA902fly
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RE: United Has Gone Crazy.

Sat Jul 29, 2000 5:17 am

Yes i am sure. And Tailscraper- United calls it First Class.
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What Are You Smoking?

Sat Jul 29, 2000 8:44 am

Hello! WHAT ARE YOU SMOKING?   United does not even fly to Utica. The pilots know when they bid for a line where they are going, and on what flight.  The only way thew would not of gone to ORD is if they had to make an emergency landing!   That line is one of the most frequent lines for pilots, in that all pilots at some point in time have done that trip. DEN-ORD is between two hubs, and the largest ones at that. Maybe your friend got on the wrong flight?  

Always fly U N I T E D  
 
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RE: What Are You Smoking?

Sat Jul 29, 2000 9:06 am

Let me ask you this: Why the hell would a SANE person fly United, and be treated like a cow, get food spilled on you and other crap. OR you could fly American, TWA, or another COMFORTABLE airline?

United blows...
 
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RE: United Has Gone Crazy.

Sat Jul 29, 2000 10:51 am

Dear Virgin A340,

I am sorry that you do not think that 2-5-2 is "a lot more comfier" what ever that means, but if you don't like the comfort of that middle seat, then ask for an isle or window. I have said this on other forms, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO SIT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE MIDDLE. I think that all those people that do not like 2-5-2 must think that if they get booked on an airplane with 2-5-2 that FOR SURE they will have the middle most seat. Well I got news for you, only 11% of the seats in a 2-5-2 are the middle seat in a bank of 5, so your chances of getting that terrible, "very vuncomfortable" seat are pretty slim. Now look, you've got me flapping my gums about the unsolvable issue! Sorry I wasted this space.
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TWA902fly
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RE: United Has Gone Crazy.

Sat Jul 29, 2000 2:05 pm

I dont smoke
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RE: This Site Has Gone Crazy.

Sat Jul 29, 2000 2:26 pm

OK, This thread saddens me about the quality of this board...for these reasons.

1. TWA902Fly's absurd claim that "The pilots got the wrong information." This is crap. An aircraft going from DEN to ORD doesnt wind up in Utica because the pilots got the wrong information. Maybe there were weather problems at ORD??? BTW, if this DID happen, which I seriously doubt, it would be ATC's fault. UA doesn't route the planes while they are in the air.

2. LGW's post "UAL R CRAP" lacks not only proper grammar but also basis for why "UAL R CRAP". A three word post does not earn a member respect in any setting, especially this forum.

3. Same goes for the other posts saying "UAL is the best" and "No they are not the best." Care to back up these statements?

4. The thread evolving into an airline bashing post for the way they configure their seats. (Don't book a middle seat if you don't want one!)

5. The thread evolving into an airline bashing post due to one disgruntled member who backs up his posts with such deep and thought-provoking statements as "United blows."

Don't get me wrong. I love this site. I think it is more informative and has more interesting topics and better, more qualified members. However, threads like this just churn my stomach.

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RE: United Has Gone Crazy.

Sun Jul 30, 2000 12:57 am

the complaints show that united is a pure mistake, just go to untied.com and you won't believe how many complaints UA has gotten,and those are only complaints that were put on the internet, they are definately more than those. just my 2 cents
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RE: United Has Gone Crazy.

Sun Jul 30, 2000 1:38 am

The Press somethimes gets things crossed, but I have seen a lot of these problems first hand in Florida and Colorado. People scrambling to find flights out of TPA, DEN, MCO, MIA, etc. with American, Delta, AirTran, etc. to get home because some pilot has had the arrogance to stop a flight on the tarmac because he doesn't like the way the baggage was loaded, or how hes feeling. Come on, this is managements problem, pilots can get greedy, but some if not most deserve it.
 
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Fanoftristars

Sun Jul 30, 2000 12:07 pm

That was about the best point I've ever seen on here.

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RE: United Has Gone Crazy.

Sun Jul 30, 2000 12:16 pm

Ditto to the 5 excellent points brought up by NWA Man. This forum deserves better participation than some of tonight's offerings....
 
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RE: TWA902Fly

Sun Jul 30, 2000 12:24 pm

Just to clarify your point "..at least it's not 3x4x3 like BA".....So as not to mislead everyone, British Airways has only THREE 777's configured 3x4x3. These THREE aircraft are dedicated out of Gatwick to the Caribbean (flights BA4500-4549). The reason is that these are low-yield leisure routes and if wasnt for the higher density seating then BA would not be able to justify these scheduled services at all.

The other TWENTY SIX British Airways 777's are 3x3x3 in World Traveller (economy).

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NWA Man, Fanoftristars, ILUV767s

Sun Jul 30, 2000 7:06 pm

Excellent, excellent bull's eye points made by the three of you. To everyone, please keep in mind that the originator of this thread, TWA902fly is only kid which means possibly 1) he may have made up this tale of these "lost" pilots, 2) his fellow adolescent friend may have made it up, or 3) one or both of them misunderstood the actual details, (if the incident even actually ever happened).

As for the other outlandish posts so eloquently cited by NWA Man, most of those members are in the <20 age range which means that they are less-inhibited to spew misinformed information and illogical reasoning behind their bashing of certain airlines/aircraft. (But more sadly, these types of posts are also written by older members as well --those who seemingly should know better).

As far as the 2-5-2 seating arrangement that always comes up, I too fail to understand why everyone is going around repeating the usual "the middle seat is a double excuse seat and it sucks" mantra. Fanoftristars hit it on the head when he reminded us that you simply ARE NOT FORCED TO SIT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE MIDDLE!!!!

So puh-leeeeeeeze! Stop sounding like a bunch of squawking parrots repeating that line!

Finally, as far as the favorite "www.untied.com" site that one poster referred to ("you won't believe how many complaints UA has gotten...") well, actually it is believable. The complaints are the same ones I read about at www.epinions.com about ALL the major U.S. air carriers, both in content and quantity. -Just check it out.

But no, what I actually find "hard to believe" is the numbers of so-called aviation fans at this site who run around jumping on the bandwagon of airline bashing without actually experiencing that airline more than once. Too many of them do it daily, like some sort of odd cultish phenomenon.

Now that's truly hard to accept. Especially at a site devoted for its "high level of quality and participation."