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Delivery Of AC's First 77W - Video & Pics

Sun Apr 01, 2007 3:31 pm

Hello.

Some people have requested pictures of the March 31st, delivery flight of Air Canada's first triple-seven to YUL. I am happy to oblige.

I decided to create a new topic instead of sticking it into an already existing AC 777 thread as many of them are quite long.

Figuring their will be many people taking pics of this a/c, I took mostly video. So there are a few pics below followed by 4 videos. Enjoy.

The 77W just after exiting the runway. I am always amazed at the size of the engines on the 777.
http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o62/YULspotter/P3311580.jpg

Heading for Air Canada's maintenance bay at YUL. It will be the main attraction at an Air Canada event celebrating both it's arrival and AC's 70th anniversary.
http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o62/YULspotter/P3311582.jpg

AC brought in their restored L10A for this occasion. It did a low level flyby and landed just ahead of the 77W
That's one shinny a/c!
http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o62/YULspotter/P3311572.jpg


Video of the 77W's flyby. I wasn't in the right position at the time so it takes a few seconds for it to appear. It eventually disappears behind a building.


Landing of the 77W of 24L. Besides the length of this beast, I was amazed at how quiet it was. Hardly a sound as it went by. You'll see for yourself on the video.



The 77W heading for Air Canada's maintenance bay. Congratulations to Air Canada with honorable mention to Mother Nature for giving us such a great spring day for this event.



Landing of the L10A on runway 24L. What a shinny little airplane!



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Sun Apr 01, 2007 3:37 pm

Thanks YULspotter. Great videos.
Congrats to Air Canada.
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Sun Apr 01, 2007 7:50 pm

Congrats AC, now it´s Colgates Family Pak flying and why this horrible livery I ask myself...

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Sun Apr 01, 2007 7:55 pm

Excellent stuff there Big grin



I'm Looking forward to flying the AC 77W soon  Wink



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Sun Apr 01, 2007 8:06 pm

Quoting YULspotter (Thread starter):

Great Stuff can't wait till they start flying to SYD at the end of the year  Smile
 
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Sun Apr 01, 2007 9:24 pm

Wow, amazing videos and nice photos YULspotter! My friend and loyal forum member and photoscreener TristarYUL is probably on this aircraft so you caught him on camera as well!!

I just love the new livery of AC and it looks just stunning on the 77W!!! Airbus must be kicking themselves for losing such an important and big customer. I never thaught AC would go for Boeing aircraft again but they did and with a BIG order too. Competition is good! Good luck to AC and their first 77W.

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Mon Apr 02, 2007 12:47 am

Nice videos Yulspotter! I was there at Ch St-Francois.. saw the whole fly by from a distance.. was spectacular even far away.
 
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Mon Apr 02, 2007 1:00 am

Wow that plane is long!! Cant wait to see some interior shots of J and Y class. Just one thing Im trying to solve, did AC used to fly LHR to NCE on a Tristar???
 
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Mon Apr 02, 2007 1:10 am

Awesome video, thanks for sharing us the video and pictures.. Can't wait to fly to HKG next year 2008.
 
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Mon Apr 02, 2007 2:20 am

I was there and I was also in the AC celebration. Here are some pictures that I can share

Air Canada Fist Boeing 777 C-FITL doing a low and over off runway 24L in CYUL :

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Air Canada Boeing 777-300ER C-FITL


The Massive GE Engine: See the comparision to a typical human size.

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Air Canada C-FITL Boeing 773 GE90-115B Engine


A picture of the AC 1st 777 interior
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Air Canada Boeing 773 C-FITL interior


And an exterior look of Air Canada's "beast"
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Air Canada Boeing 773 C-FITL


What I feel is the plane is very long, i.e. when I went on the tour of the plane, it takes 'forever' to walk from the tail to the front. The "stand up bar" in the executive class also 'eye opening'

I like the new plane smell, and everything is 'dustless', including the engine.  Smile

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Mon Apr 02, 2007 2:39 am

What a beautiful airplane! Congrats Air Canada...you are doing a great job!
 
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Mon Apr 02, 2007 3:12 am

Beauty! Be a treat to see her here in YYZ in four days. Hopefully, she'll be around while I'm out on the ramp.
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RE: Delivery Of AC's First 77W - Video & Pics

Mon Apr 02, 2007 6:44 am

Beautiful airplane, but can someone tell me what a 77W is? Why isn't it a 773ER, or thereabouts? I hope I'm not the only one wondering about this......
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RE: Delivery Of AC's First 77W - Video & Pics

Mon Apr 02, 2007 6:54 am

Quoting C133 (Reply 12):
Beautiful airplane, but can someone tell me what a 77W is? Why isn't it a 773ER, or thereabouts? I hope I'm not the only one wondering about this......

77W is the code for 777-300ER aircraft.

For 777s they go:

777/772 - 777-200
772/77E - 777-200ER
773 - 777-300
77L - 777-200LR
77W - 777-300ER
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RE: Delivery Of AC's First 77W - Video & Pics

Mon Apr 02, 2007 7:00 am

Geez...nice videos - I wish I had been able to drive over there and watch this.

A few questions come to mind - Maybe someone can answer:

1) Who flies the plane to YUL - a Boeing Pilot or an AC pilot? Are there any passengers on board?

2) Was the tour of the plane open to the public or just a select few or employees only?

3) What does AC need to do to this plane before it enters service in a few days? Inspections? Loading it up with their in-flight stuff?

4) Is the IFE similar to the system on the ERJs (which I find to be quite good)?

My wife is lucky enough to be flying on this beast from YUL to YYZ on thrusday night - got her a points ticket to go visit her sister and by fluke she ended up on this plane (assuming no changes)...Means nothing to her though. On my next trip to LHR - in late may - I am going to intentionally fly through Toronto to test out the new Exec class suites...Can't inamge how much better they are compared to the 333s I normally fly.

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RE: Delivery Of AC's First 77W - Video & Pics

Mon Apr 02, 2007 7:25 am

Quoting Alitalia744 (Reply 13):
For 777s they go:

777/772 - 777-200
772/77E - 777-200ER
773 - 777-300
77L - 777-200LR
77W - 777-300ER

And 77W is maybe the one I couldn't figure out. Okay--thanks.
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Mon Apr 02, 2007 7:39 am

Quoting Dmanmtl (Reply 14):
A few questions come to mind - Maybe someone can answer:

1) Who flies the plane to YUL - a Boeing Pilot or an AC pilot? Are there any passengers on board?

2) Was the tour of the plane open to the public or just a select few or employees only?

1) I believe a company pilot brings a new plane home after the official handover from the manufacturer. Until that point, only (Boeing Company) pilots had flown it. Generally there are no passengers - certainly not revenue paying ones - but in this case, AC held an internal contest in which a few hundred selected employees accompanied the plane to Montreal.

2) The event on Saturday was open to AC employees, their family members and invited guests only. If you and I want a tour of the airplane, AC will gladly provide one in exchange for a paid ticket starting next week. First come, first served.
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RE: Delivery Of AC's First 77W - Video & Pics

Mon Apr 02, 2007 7:53 am

Quoting A388 (Reply 5):
Good luck to AC and their first 77W.

Agreed. I have a feeling we may see AC order more if they are happy with these beautiful planes.

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RE: Delivery Of AC's First 77W - Video & Pics

Mon Apr 02, 2007 8:03 am

can't wait to fly it in two weeks. flying from YWG to LGA, and decided to do the extra connection from YYZ to YUL to get the chance to fly this guy, and get the miles too. Got it on the way back too...
 
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RE: Delivery Of AC's First 77W - Video & Pics

Mon Apr 02, 2007 8:15 am

Quoting Threepoint (Reply 16):
Until that point, only (Boeing Company) pilots had flown it.

If that is true in this case, it is an aberration. There is almost always an acceptance flight or several by the airline pilots, sometimes the chief pilot, before delivery.

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Mon Apr 02, 2007 9:07 am

Quoting Gigneil (Reply 19):
f that is true in this case, it is an aberration. There is almost always an acceptance flight or several by the airline pilots, sometimes the chief pilot, before delivery.

Would only make sense.

Why would you buy a car and not test-drive it before you take acceptance of it?

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RE: Delivery Of AC's First 77W - Video & Pics

Mon Apr 02, 2007 9:09 am

Quoting Dmanmtl (Reply 14):
1) Who flies the plane to YUL - a Boeing Pilot or an AC pilot? Are there any passengers on board?

I forgot the names of the two pilots who flew the beast to YUL, they belong to AC. My dad told me last night..
 
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Mon Apr 02, 2007 9:26 am

Quoting Solnabo (Reply 2):
Congrats AC, now it´s Colgates Family Pak flying and why this horrible livery I ask myself

I find this livery quite pleasing and find it on the T7's very attractive.  bigthumbsup  Big grin Big grin
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Mon Apr 02, 2007 9:47 am

What strikes me about the 773-ER in the video of it landing is how massivly long its wings are. IT looks very nice in the AC colors. I actually saw her at Paine Field in Everett during spring break, along with a second one. They are beautiful.

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Mon Apr 02, 2007 9:48 am

How many T7s do AC have on order and when are the rest delivered?

Thanks
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RE: Delivery Of AC's First 77W - Video & Pics

Mon Apr 02, 2007 10:02 am

Quoting Flyboyseven (Reply 23):
What strikes me about the 773-ER in the video of it landing is how massivly long its wings are.

I totally agree. With the -300ER's wingspan at 212ft 7inches it is over a foot longer than the 747-400ER (211ft 5inches). Quite impressive!
 
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RE: Delivery Of AC's First 77W - Video & Pics

Mon Apr 02, 2007 11:13 am

Quoting Gigneil (Reply 19):
If that is true in this case, it is an aberration. There is almost always an acceptance flight or several by the airline pilots, sometimes the chief pilot, before delivery.

Thanks for clarification. I understood that but obviously worded it poorly.
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Mon Apr 02, 2007 11:34 am

Quoting PropilotJW (Reply 25):
Quoting Flyboyseven (Reply 23):
What strikes me about the 773-ER in the video of it landing is how massivly long its wings are.

I totally agree. With the -300ER's wingspan at 212ft 7inches it is over a foot longer than the 747-400ER (211ft 5inches). Quite impressive

But 49 feet shorter than the A380 wingspan, and 12 feet shorter than the 747-8 wingspan when it arrives on the scene. However the 777-300 is 3 feet longer than the A380, but 5 feet shorter than the A340-600 which wins the overall length prize currently, but will drop into 2nd place after the 747-8 which will be about 3.5 ft. longer.

777-300ER and -200LR wingspan is 13 ft. greater than other 777 models although even their wingspan (199 ft. 11 in.) is 4 feet greater than the 747-100/200/300 (195 ft. 8 in.)
 
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RE: Delivery Of AC's First 77W - Video & Pics

Mon Apr 02, 2007 11:51 am

Quoting Dmanmtl (Reply 14):
3) What does AC need to do to this plane before it enters service in a few days? Inspections? Loading it up with their in-flight stuff?

Minor service modifications, placarding, addition of on-board safety equipment specific to AC.

Quoting Dmanmtl (Reply 14):
4) Is the IFE similar to the system on the ERJs (which I find to be quite good)?

An upgraded/next generation Thales system. Certificiation of this system was still pending by Boeing at the time of delivery. It's an upgrade over the EMJ's, but full functionality will be in place in the near future. The Embraer's have the Thales i4500 system, the 777's will have the i5000 system IIRC.
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RE: Delivery Of AC's First 77W - Video & Pics

Mon Apr 02, 2007 11:53 am

So wil AC be flying their 77W to LHR by May/June? How many 77W's will they have by than, 2 I assume? The second 77W apparently is almost ready for delivery.

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Mon Apr 02, 2007 11:56 am

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 27):
But 49 feet shorter than the A380 wingspan, and 12 feet shorter than the 747-8 wingspan when it arrives on the scene. However the 777-300 is 3 feet longer than the A380, but 5 feet shorter than the A340-600 which wins the overall length prize currently, but will drop into 2nd place after the 747-8 which will be about 3.5 ft. longer.

777-300ER and -200LR wingspan is 13 ft. greater than other 777 models although even their wingspan (199 ft. 11 in.) is 4 feet greater than the 747-100/200/300 (195 ft. 8 in.)

That is correct. Thank you for provding information regarding other aircraft dimensions.
 
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Mon Apr 02, 2007 12:29 pm

Congratulations Air Canada! You have definitely made an improvement from your bankrupt ways of the near past!  Smile Hope you enjoy your new Toy! It's Beautiful!!!!!!!

I saw this A/C and its sister, the second 777 for AC on my trip to Seattle over Spring Break. THEY ARE BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!!

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Mon Apr 02, 2007 1:13 pm

The new beast looks great!

Looking forward to giving it it's first landing clearance at YYZ!!!

Just curious, is the 77W a relatively new version of the 777 or was it available at the launch of the type?

IIRC, Korean Air used to fly 77Ws to YYZ many years ago.

Good Luck wih the new bird AC!!!
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Mon Apr 02, 2007 1:31 pm

thanks for the L 10 video, that was cherry atop the cake!
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RE: Delivery Of AC's First 77W - Video & Pics

Mon Apr 02, 2007 1:41 pm

Quoting LailaiYYZ (Reply 9):
I was there and I was also in the AC celebration. Here are some pictures that I can share

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What a beauty!
I totally wish I could have been there.
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Mon Apr 02, 2007 1:49 pm

Quoting DC10sRULE (Reply 32):
Just curious, is the 77W a relatively new version of the 777 or was it available at the launch of the type?

The standard (non-ER) 777-300 is basically just a stretched standard -200 and went into service in 1998, 3 years after the -200. Only 60 of the standard -300s were sold, all to Asian carriers (CX/NH/JL/KE/MH/SQ/TG) plus Emirates.

The -300ER went into service in 2004 and has numerous changes under the skin to permit much greater range (higher gross weight, different landing gear, extra fuel capacity etc). The most visible (not that it's very obvious either) difference from the standard -300 is the 13 foot greater wingspan and raked wingtips of the -300ER which it shares with the longest range 777 model, the -200LR which AC has also ordered for routes like YVR-SYD nonstop.

Several of the standard -300 operators have since added the -300ER to their fleets. I don't think any standard -300s have been sold since the -300ER was introduced.
 
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Mon Apr 02, 2007 1:51 pm

Quoting DC10sRULE (Reply 32):
Just curious, is the 77W a relatively new version of the 777 or was it available at the launch of the type?

relatively new. it was first offered a bit after Airbus first offered the 346. At the time of the 777 launch, the idea that anyone could build a 115k lb passenger jet engine of high reliability was not taken seriously. It took many years to get to the point that such a beast could even be launched.
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Mon Apr 02, 2007 2:17 pm

I was just at the Boeing plant on Friday and saw this beauty getting ready for delivery. She looked great.
 
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Mon Apr 02, 2007 2:18 pm

All I can say is WOW!!!!

Congrats to AC

On which routes will they be flying this amazing machine?

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Mon Apr 02, 2007 2:20 pm

I got to loiter around the aircraft while it was on public (for AC staff) display at the base later that afternoon, and it is ... HUGE. I'm quite used to flying in and seeing 777s from a distance, but when one is standing underneath it the feeling is quite different.

The coach cabin sported the new Air Canada seats which were remarkably comfortable. More surprising than that was the legroom! Probably the most I have ever seen on any airline - I had enough room to stretch my legs without hitting my knee on the seat ahead of me, and I'm a good 6ft. The IFE was in idiot-mode but looked promising, there was a USB port in the seat ... no idea why. But the seats were in that disgusting 3-3-3 configuration which I loath so much. Removing something from the overheads is downright dangerous for the person in the aisle seat, never mind using the reading light.

Business was much less pleasing than I would have imagined. The seats were about 30° offset to the direction of travel, and rather uncomfortable. They were far too narrow in my opinion, once seated I felt like I was in a bucket, and converting the seat to bed mode proved dangerous for the feet unless special care was taken to maneuver your feet while the seat flattened itself.

The didn't let us into the cockpit, but I will be going with a friend of mine later this week...

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Mon Apr 02, 2007 2:33 pm

If this beautifull baby is coming into YYZ on thursday, she'll fly right over my house as I live on the West side of Pearson right in between 15 L & 15R. Will take shots if the wind is right! Makes me feel envious though as I leave for YYC on a Westjet 737-800 the next day!
 
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Mon Apr 02, 2007 4:28 pm

Damn I wish I could have been there for the staff party  Sad of course I had to work...  Angry

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RE: Delivery Of AC's First 77W - Video & Pics

Mon Apr 02, 2007 4:43 pm

Quoting SB (Reply 39):
The IFE was in idiot-mode but looked promising, there was a USB port in the seat ... no idea why.

iPod integration is my guess. Many airlines are adding this as announced late last year, and I think AC was on the list. You should be able to play your music and videos through it, though not sure why you'd need to play your music through it, when your iPod can play music directly. Maybe so you don't lose charge?
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Mon Apr 02, 2007 5:24 pm

The interior looks really nice. Anyone got any of the Business class????
 
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RE: Delivery Of AC's First 77W - Video & Pics

Mon Apr 02, 2007 10:11 pm

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 42):
iPod integration is my guess. Many airlines are adding this as announced late last year, and I think AC was on the list. You should be able to play your music and videos through it, though not sure why you'd need to play your music through it, when your iPod can play music directly. Maybe so you don't lose charge?

Most likely to keep the iPod charged up. I imagine that won't be a luxury on a 16 hour nonstop! I have a brand new VW; there's an aux. jack in the glove box; technically I can play my iPod off it by plugging a cable between the headphone and aux. jacks, but I opted for a the full optional iPod integration; I can select my playlists from the car's head unit from the "CD2" function, and the little beastie's battery is kept topped up. I love it!

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RE: Delivery Of AC's First 77W - Video & Pics

Mon Apr 02, 2007 10:40 pm

Quoting Lorgem1 (Reply 40):
If this beautifull baby is coming into YYZ on thursday, she'll fly right over my house as I live on the West side of Pearson right in between 15 L & 15R

Just a quick note, you may mean 05, 06L, 06R as these would be the runways in use if the aircraft is approaching from the west. The runways you mentioned would mean an arrival from the north over Brampton and unless the wind is blowing stiffly from the south unlikely to be used.

Good luck with the photos and hope the weather co-operates for us in the YYZ area!

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RE: Delivery Of AC's First 77W - Video & Pics

Mon Apr 02, 2007 10:58 pm

Beautiful videos. Thanks for sharing. I don't like new AC livery, but I have to admit that seeing it in motion on the Mighty Triple Seven makes it appear a lot better than on the still images.

These films only confirm to me that 777 is the most beautiful widebody aircraft ever designed by a human being.
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RE: Delivery Of AC's First 77W - Video & Pics

Mon Apr 02, 2007 10:59 pm

I guess I am warming up to this 'Toothpaste blue' livery. Awesome-looking beast.

Quoting DC10sRULE (Reply 32):
IIRC, Korean Air used to fly 77Ws to YYZ many years ago.

I don't think KE has 77W's, only 773's. But I stand to be corrected.
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Mon Apr 02, 2007 11:50 pm

I seem to recall flying on a KE 777-200 some years ago from SEL to NRT.

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Tue Apr 03, 2007 12:01 am

Quoting BeechNut (Reply 48):
seem to recall flying on a KE 777-200 some years ago from SEL to NRT

They do have a ton of 772's but as far as 777-300's goes, I don't think thy have ER's which are the 77W's.
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