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AA Applies ORD-EZE From 28OCT07

Wed Apr 04, 2007 6:02 am

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/070403/datu040.html?.v=89

American has applied for daily frequencies to operate Chicago - Buenos Aires.
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RE: AA Applies ORD-EZE From 28OCT07

Wed Apr 04, 2007 6:18 am

Nice.

...the start of a (long expected, by some) Latin expAAnsion from the midwest? Mark?
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RE: AA Applies ORD-EZE From 28OCT07

Wed Apr 04, 2007 6:21 am

It is nice to see AA finally adding a non stop flight to Latin America from Chicago (Other than Mexico).
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RE: AA Applies ORD-EZE From 28OCT07

Wed Apr 04, 2007 6:27 am

I must say, I'm a bit surprised by this announcement, as I never would have expected AA to try and tap into the Midwest-South America market which United has thus far all but spoken far. No doubt, the limited connections from Asia plus many other connections at ORD will fill the flight up, although I don't know at what yields, but I suspect that AA's main target with this route is cargo, and AA will no doubt be moving a lot between EZE and NRT, PVG, etc.

Personally, I also think that a third daily (daylight) MIA-EZE flight, plus a daily MIA-COR flight, are future targets for AA. Perhaps AA will apply for ORD-EZE, allow the other airlines to apply for and receive rights for their wanted routes (EWR-EZE for CO, JFK-EZE for DL, etc.) and then AA can come in and apply for COR, etc. without having to deal with arguing with other airlines -- if everybody gets what they want, what's to argue about? Besides, with the new bilateral, there will be plenty of weekly flights to go around for at least the forseeable future.
 
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RE: AA Applies ORD-EZE From 28OCT07

Wed Apr 04, 2007 6:31 am

Two things:

1) Isn't Buenos Aires in SOUTH America as opposed to Latin America?

2) How many times has a ORD-EZE-ORD flight been tried out and how many times did it get pulled off?

My sister would have preferred this option for her going to/from EZE as she is studying Spanish down there and comes back on May via DFW. There's a lot of backtracking going that way as opposed to going via MIA as she did on her way down there.
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RE: AA Applies ORD-EZE From 28OCT07

Wed Apr 04, 2007 6:38 am

Quoting LHboyatDTW (Reply 4):
Isn't Buenos Aires in SOUTH America as opposed to Latin America?

South America is part of Latin America. In common airline industry parlance, Latin America = Mexico, Central America and South America, and sometimes the Caribbean.

Quoting LHboyatDTW (Reply 4):
How many times has a ORD-EZE-ORD flight been tried out and how many times did it get pulled off?

By American, never. This would be the first time AA has ever flown ORD-EZE nonstop.
 
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RE: AA Applies ORD-EZE From 28OCT07

Wed Apr 04, 2007 6:39 am

Quoting Commavia (Reply 3):
with the new bilateral,

I haven't heard much about it... what new allotments have been made for the USA carriers?
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RE: AA Applies ORD-EZE From 28OCT07

Wed Apr 04, 2007 6:40 am

I think Latin/South America are interchangeable expressions - after all, most South American countries' languages are derived from Latin (Spanish & Portuguese) - the exceptions are French Guyana, Guyana and Surinam.

[Edited 2007-04-03 23:41:41]
 
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RE: AA Applies ORD-EZE From 28OCT07

Wed Apr 04, 2007 6:40 am

Quoting LHboyatDTW (Reply 4):
1) Isn't Buenos Aires in SOUTH America as opposed to Latin America?

Latin America includes most of Central America and South America. Latin America refers to the part of the Americas where Latino languages are spoken, primarily Spanish and Portuguese.
 
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RE: AA Applies ORD-EZE From 28OCT07

Wed Apr 04, 2007 6:42 am

Quoting ConcordeBoy (Reply 6):
I haven't heard much about it... what new allotments have been made for the USA carriers?

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RE: AA Applies ORD-EZE From 28OCT07

Wed Apr 04, 2007 7:19 am

Great news, Chicago needs more service to South America...Altho on an AA 767...thats one loooonnngggg flight. Bring a book, a computer, a handheld DVD player or something to pass the time.

Good to hear AA is expanding @ ORD.
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RE: AA Applies ORD-EZE From 28OCT07

Wed Apr 04, 2007 7:25 am

Did UA pull out of this route? If so what makes AA think that they can make it successful?
 
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RE: AA Applies ORD-EZE From 28OCT07

Wed Apr 04, 2007 7:30 am

Quoting LHboyatDTW (Reply 4):
How many times has a ORD-EZE-ORD flight been tried out and how many times did it get pulled off?



Quoting TBCITDG (Reply 11):
Did UA pull out of this route? If so what makes AA think that they can make it successful?

First, I know that UA had been running this flight as a seasonal service for a number of seasons so it wasn't actually being dropped just suspended seasonally. Second, keep in mind that AA is FAR, FAR more committed to Latin/South America than is UA. I expect AA to be very succesful with this flight and likely operate it year-round.
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RE: AA Applies ORD-EZE From 28OCT07

Wed Apr 04, 2007 7:37 am

Quoting Lan1981 (Reply 7):
I think Latin/South America are interchangeable expressions - after all, most South American countries' languages are derived from Latin (Spanish & Portuguese) - the exceptions are French Guyana, Guyana and Surinam

French is also a language derived from Latin.


I wonder how UA will react to this, considering they have terminated this not long ago.

Anyways, I don't think AA plans to expand much further out of ORD to South America. Specially in Brazil, they don't have available traffic rights to do so. ALso keep in mind that UA has been flying out of ORD for quite some time. Brazil's market to midwest is bigger, UA has under its belt.
 
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RE: AA Applies ORD-EZE From 28OCT07

Wed Apr 04, 2007 7:43 am

Quoting TBCITDG (Reply 11):
Did UA pull out of this route? If so what makes AA think that they can make it successful?

The last suspension of ORD-EZE came when UA had to return a couple of 763s in bankruptcy. If AA has the aircraft, there's no reason they couldn't make it work. I wonder if AA will adjust the timing of 288/289 or 153/154 to make the timing of the connections any better. Neither is great right now, though neither is terrible. Connections from DEL, however, are just terrible.
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RE: AA Applies ORD-EZE From 28OCT07

Wed Apr 04, 2007 7:47 am

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 14):
I wonder if AA will adjust the timing of 288/289 or 153/154 to make the timing of the connections any better. Neither is great right now, though neither is terrible. Connections from DEL, however, are just terrible.

Which flights are these?
 
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RE: AA Applies ORD-EZE From 28OCT07

Wed Apr 04, 2007 7:49 am

I'm sure this will now set off another round of EZE expansion, with DL, CO, and AA all wanting new flights. AA might try and keep the ORD service as well. Should be interesting to see how the other carriers react.
 
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RE: AA Applies ORD-EZE From 28OCT07

Wed Apr 04, 2007 8:54 am

Quoting DiscoverCSG (Reply 15):
Which flights are these?

NRT and PVG.
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RE: AA Applies ORD-EZE From 28OCT07

Wed Apr 04, 2007 9:01 am

Brazil has bad managed it's potential for Northeast... now Argentina come first with probably AA, DL and CO.

Nice news from AA and for EZE. Nowadays it's really huge the number of Argentinians connecting in Brazil because of the lack of non-stop services EZE-United States. Smart change from Argentina that should bring lots of congress, seminars, events, tourists, businessman's and money to Argentina.

Chicago is for sure under-served for South America and IMO it opens a huge potential route.

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RE: AA Applies ORD-EZE From 28OCT07

Wed Apr 04, 2007 9:06 am

Quoting OA412 (Reply 12):
First, I know that UA had been running this flight as a seasonal service for a number of seasons so it wasn't actually being dropped just suspended seasonally.

UA has permanently ended Chicago-Buenos Aires.

I am surprised they are going for this before a daylight Miami-Buenos Aires, however, because that would require no new aircraft, but opening up a new route in an unserved market provides greater profit potential.

I wouldn't be surprised if AA applies for another seven of the frequencies, though. They might be waiting to see what Delta and Continental do. If CO and DL apply for the other 14, AA does not stand much of a chance.
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RE: AA Applies ORD-EZE From 28OCT07

Wed Apr 04, 2007 9:36 am

Quoting Lan1981 (Reply 7):
... after all, most South American countries' languages are derived from Latin (Spanish & Portuguese) - the exceptions are French Guyana....

 Yeah sure

Last I heard, French was rooted in Latin as well.
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RE: AA Applies ORD-EZE From 28OCT07

Wed Apr 04, 2007 9:54 am

Great news! I'm excited we're getting more service to one of my most favorite cities in the world! The crews flying this trip are going to be mega-senior, if they can manage to tear themselves away from PVG, NRT and FCO.
 
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RE: AA Applies ORD-EZE From 28OCT07

Wed Apr 04, 2007 10:14 am

Its about time AA added more service to South America, every other airline is adding service to regions they specialize in, its great AA has jumped on board this trend.

I hope we see JFK-EZE go year round with the 777, and COR added to the route map.

On a side note, AA has pulled the end date for seasonal MIA-MVD service in employee reference files. The flights are still scheduled to stop as scheduled but the UA pull out is being evaluated and the route may be restarted as thrice weekly year-round service.
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RE: AA Applies ORD-EZE From 28OCT07

Wed Apr 04, 2007 10:20 am

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 19):
I am surprised they are going for this before a daylight Miami-Buenos Aires, however, because that would require no new aircraft, but opening up a new route in an unserved market provides greater profit potential.

Agreed, but then, if AA launched a 3rd daily MIA-EZE, wouldn't that reduce yields on their current 2 flights? They really don't have any other US airline challenge them MIA-EZE, so there isn't a competitive advantage to a daylight flight except for cargo and incremental, lower yielding passngers. ORD-EZE can sweep in the market and if it fails, then AA still has 7 frequencies to use elsewhere, right?

Somewhat related, what's the status on MIA-ASU? Wasn't there thinking along the lines of MIA-ASU-EZE which would knock out two birds woth one stone - a return to ASU and a daylihgt, one-stop to EZE...??
 
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RE: AA Applies ORD-EZE From 28OCT07

Wed Apr 04, 2007 10:31 am

Quoting BigGSFO (Reply 23):
Somewhat related, what's the status on MIA-ASU?

MIA-ASU is tentatively set to start in December with a redeye to Asuncion and a daylight from Asuncion with a 757. No tag-on to Buenos Aires. While AA is reserving an aircraft in the winter for this route, it will not happen unless Paraguay drops a government mandated travel agent commission. They have yet to drop it.
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RE: AA Applies ORD-EZE From 28OCT07

Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:32 am

AA please get this route!

As a self teaching spanish student Madrid and Buenos Aires were the top two places I wanted to attend spanish school at for 2 weeks and then return later. If AA gets this route I will hold off from September to the end of October to fly and get my AAdvantage miles.

Will this be a direct flight? Can a 767 make this run or would it be the lovely T7? Omg lets see it takes just over 2 overs to get from ORD-DFW then from DFW to Buenos Aires is about........10 hours just about. So altogether ORD-EZE would be somewhere around a 12+ flight? That would drive me crazy as I have never been on a plane that long.

Now on the down side. It seems flying into EZE with AA via DFW/MIA and DL and CO are just EXPENSIVE. I guess ORD-EZE-ORD would be north of $1000!!! YIKES!

[Edited 2007-04-04 04:53:27]
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RE: AA Applies ORD-EZE From 28OCT07

Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:43 am

Quoting TBCITDG (Reply 11):
Did UA pull out of this route? If so what makes AA think that they can make it successful?

UA, even awhile back when its network to/from LatAm was bigger, had a less faithful following than AA does. AA can get you anywhere in this side of the world from the USA, and those of us who fly them often will flock to this flight.

Quoting Tsaord (Reply 25):
Will this be a direct flight? Can a 767 make this run or would it be the lovely T7? Omg lets see it takes just over 2 overs to get from ORD-DFW then from DFW to Buenos Aires is about........10 hours just about. So altogether ORD-EZE would be somewhere around a 12+ flight? That would drive me crazy as I have never been on a plane that long.

This will be a direct flight. When I used to take it on UA it averaged about 11hrs and 15 mins, and once when we had to divert around a tropical storm in the gulf it was slightly over 12 hours.

I am slightly surprised that we didnt see that 3rd MIA-EZE frequency, but perhaps we will see that after Argentine elections (Although I am sure that Kirchner or his wife will be back...) wrap up.

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RE: AA Applies ORD-EZE From 28OCT07

Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:48 am

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 19):
UA has permanently ended Chicago-Buenos Aires.

Oh thanks for the info. For some reason I thought that it was coming back.
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RE: AA Applies ORD-EZE From 28OCT07

Wed Apr 04, 2007 12:10 pm

Quoting OA412 (Reply 27):
Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 19):
UA has permanently ended Chicago-Buenos Aires.

Oh thanks for the info. For some reason I thought that it was coming back.

After today's AA announcement, I wonder if it will, since UA still has the route authority.
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RE: AA Applies ORD-EZE From 28OCT07

Wed Apr 04, 2007 12:24 pm

Quoting Tsaord (Reply 25):
Will this be a direct flight?

Yes...

Quoting Tsaord (Reply 25):
Can a 767 make this run or would it be the lovely T7?

Yes....Would be nice. But it will be a 763.
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RE: AA Applies ORD-EZE From 28OCT07

Wed Apr 04, 2007 3:56 pm

I hope thier connections work well out of YYC. Currently in order to fly AA to EZE from YYC on AA you end up with an 8 hour layover in DFW. Continental has good connections out of IAH, but, I would really be good to see another option other than DFW/IAH for us folks North of the US border.
 
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RE: AA Applies ORD-EZE From 28OCT07

Wed Apr 04, 2007 4:15 pm

Quoting Chinook747 (Reply 30):
I hope thier connections work well out of YYC. Currently in order to fly AA to EZE from YYC on AA you end up with an 8 hour layover in DFW. Continental has good connections out of IAH, but, I would really be good to see another option other than DFW/IAH for us folks North of the US border.

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RE: AA Applies ORD-EZE From 28OCT07

Wed Apr 04, 2007 4:56 pm

But UA has 3 times yyc-ord daily and it would connect...even if it is another carrier the connections would be preferable to 8 hours in DFW...
 
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RE: AA Applies ORD-EZE From 28OCT07

Wed Apr 04, 2007 8:06 pm

Whats the flight duration ORD-EZE and what a/c type,I'm guessing a 772?
 
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RE: AA Applies ORD-EZE From 28OCT07

Wed Apr 04, 2007 9:15 pm

It is probably a 12 hour flight on a 767-300.
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RE: AA Applies ORD-EZE From 28OCT07

Wed Apr 04, 2007 10:36 pm

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 24):
MIA-ASU is tentatively set to start in December with a redeye to Asuncion and a daylight from Asuncion with a 757. No tag-on to Buenos Aires. While AA is reserving an aircraft in the winter for this route, it will not happen unless Paraguay drops a government mandated travel agent commission. They have yet to drop it.

This was a bad move for Paraguay lost their only widebody service. AA only really carried cargo on GRU-ASU. Never many people.

Quoting ORDTerminal1 (Reply 34):
It is probably a 12 hour flight on a 767-300.

Will this be the longest 767 flight? It will definitaly be the longest AA 767 route.
 
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RE: AA Applies ORD-EZE From 28OCT07

Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:18 pm

Quoting ORDTerminal1 (Reply 10):
Altho on an AA 767...thats one loooonnngggg flight.

Why use a 763??? This flight should be a 772 and maybe it might be upgraded once AA receive there 7 or so from Boeing. I cant see that sitting on a 763 for nearly 12 hours without a good IFE (unless your in biz) being a good idea!! I would rather pay a bit extra and go via MIA or JFK and grab the 772!!
 
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RE: AA Applies ORD-EZE From 28OCT07

Thu Apr 05, 2007 1:29 am

Quoting JDAirCEO (Reply 22):
I hope we see JFK-EZE go year round with the 777

Unfortunately not, they don't have the planes for it. I think that JFK-EZE-JFK just returned to the 767 too.

ORD-EZE will do well not only because of American's established position in Latin America, but Lan Argentina's admission into OneWorld opens up new connections with the region. Though not as great as what Aerolinas Argentinas offers, it still will help loads, especially if a codeshare agreement is established.

I was expecting ORD-GRU over ORD-EZE, and if ORD-EZE were to be launched, that it would be flown via GRU.

Quoting Albird87 (Reply 36):
Why use a 763??? This flight should be a 772 and maybe it might be upgraded once AA receive there 7 or so from Boeing.



Quoting ORDTerminal1 (Reply 34):
It is probably a 12 hour flight on a 767-300.



Quoting EKSkycargo370 (Reply 33):
Whats the flight duration ORD-EZE and what a/c type,I'm guessing a 772?

It will be a 767-300.

American doesn't use the 777 on JFK-EZE yearound, which is a far bigger market than ORD-EZE, why on earth would they use a 777 on ORD-EZE? Second, American doesn't have enough 777s to operate such a route. The 777 is just too big for this route right now. Give it a few years, and even then I doubt we'll see 777s on the route.

IFE doesn't factor in to what kind of aircraft they chose for the route, that's something that only A.Neters will notice. Remember these flighs are roundtrip nightflights, so most people will be sleeping.

Quoting BigGSFO (Reply 23):
Agreed, but then, if AA launched a 3rd daily MIA-EZE, wouldn't that reduce yields on their current 2 flights? They really don't have any other US airline challenge them MIA-EZE, so there isn't a competitive advantage to a daylight flight except for cargo and incremental, lower yielding passngers.

There are good reasons to operate a daylight MIA-EZE. First off, it doesn't require an additional aircraft, as it uses an aircraft that would be sitting at EZE all day. By moving lower yielding passengers onto the daylight flight, American frees up space for higher yielding passengers on its two night flights.
 
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RE: AA Applies ORD-EZE From 28OCT07

Thu Apr 05, 2007 2:56 am

A 763,pure madness! Why don't AA buy some B773ER's or A340-500's to serve such routes
Even re-entering the 747SP would be a welcome idea.
 
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RE: AA Applies ORD-EZE From 28OCT07

Thu Apr 05, 2007 3:05 am

Quoting EKSkycargo370 (Reply 38):
A 763,pure madness! Why don't AA buy some B773ER's or A340-500's to serve such routes
Even re-entering the 747SP would be a welcome idea.

I don't get why people think that this route is that long. JFK-EZE is shorter by only 300 miles and has been flown by the 767-300 for years. Up until 2001, American flew LAX-CDG, which was 200 miles longer than ORD-EZE. 777-300/ERs would be far too big for ORD-EZE, I'd go as far as saying that there are only a handful that require 777-300s at American outside of Heathrow and Narita.
 
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RE: AA Applies ORD-EZE From 28OCT07

Thu Apr 05, 2007 3:27 am

The 763 will be spun from the ORD-European route pool with legs back to DFW and MIA for scheduling efficiencies, and combined with AAL experience, marketing and traffic management expertise and operating efficiencies in Argentina, give AAL more of a shot at this than UAL had. Also, it will hold an EZE frequency away from potential competitors on other possible routes from North America. Crews will be scheduled out of MIA, DFW and ORD as appropriate.

It may work. Worse case, it becomes the third MIA if that does not happen in the meantime. Nor can Aerolineas Argentinas can't be happy with this heavying up by AAL so soon after the LAN Argentina long haul invasion.

The bean counters are very conservative so their projections must be decent. Also look for the third MIA-EZE to launch regardless. On another note, the South Terminal rumors are still circulating, that is, Sky Team and Delta may mount a focused challenge at MIA. This is another, although oblique, way of deterring them, by adding heft into deep South America. There is also a rumor that TAM will join them and withdraw from their code share with AAL. We also hear that TACA may get off the dime and sign with Star Alliance but Sky Team is lobbying them heavily, and that the aggressive GOL may reapply to Star or even fight with TAM for Sky Team membership given their VARIG takeover and "re-start."

Some GOL folks from Brasil rode up on a GRU-MIA AAL flight the other day for "meetings." They offered no clues.

Some interesting things are potentially happening to shake up the Americas as a whole, and its anchor MIA crossroads.
 
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RE: AA Applies ORD-EZE From 28OCT07

Thu Apr 05, 2007 3:48 am

Its still a long trawl from ORD down to South America,ideal for the 747SP.
 
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RE: AA Applies ORD-EZE From 28OCT07

Thu Apr 05, 2007 5:04 am

Quoting EKSkycargo370 (Reply 41):
Its still a long trawl from ORD down to South America,ideal for the 747SP.

Its a perfect flight for a 763 based on what AA has in its fleet, and the operating economics of the flight. The 747SP makes absolutely no sense, given the fact that AA doesn't have any and wouldn't use them on this flight if they did have them.

The flight is not that bad in a 763, although UAs seatback monitors helped when they flew it. This isn't EWR-HKG or anything similar.
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RE: AA Applies ORD-EZE From 28OCT07

Thu Apr 05, 2007 5:20 am

Quoting EKSkycargo370 (Reply 38):
Why don't AA buy some B773ER's or A340-500's to serve such routes

because the former would require additional equipment that AA has yet to make public a desire to accomodate, and because the latter is a relative piece of crap.
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RE: AA Applies ORD-EZE From 28OCT07

Thu Apr 05, 2007 5:29 am

The 767-300 is ONLY aircraft that makes sense on this route, and the only aircraft that American has available. I'm willing to eat my words here, but there is a no way that American is putting a 777 on ORD-EZE within the first year of launching this route.

Quoting ConcordeBoy (Reply 43):
and because the latter is a relative piece of crap.

Remove the word "relative" and we are on the same playing field here.
 
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RE: AA Applies ORD-EZE From 28OCT07

Thu Apr 05, 2007 6:14 am

There is still plenty of 747SP's floating around that AA could purchase.Its a route with perfect range for the SP and suitable for predicted pax and cargo load.
 
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RE: AA Applies ORD-EZE From 28OCT07

Thu Apr 05, 2007 6:40 am

Quoting EKSkycargo370 (Reply 45):
There is still plenty of 747SP's floating around that AA could purchase.Its a route with perfect range for the SP and suitable for predicted pax and cargo load.

You guys must be having a laugh!!! Buying an SP for just that route!!! Also buying an aircraft that has been out for 30 years!! What have you been smoking??

WHY!!!!!
if they want to put 250 passengers on a plane to EZE they will use there 772s!!!

personally i would of thought that there might be the need for the 772 due to the F class on board and people wantin the higher class on this flight
 
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RE: AA Applies ORD-EZE From 28OCT07

Thu Apr 05, 2007 6:42 am

It makes economical sense to purchase a sole 747SP for a specific route only.
 
Cubsrule
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RE: AA Applies ORD-EZE From 28OCT07

Thu Apr 05, 2007 7:13 am

Quoting Asuflyer (Reply 35):
Will this be the longest 767 flight? It will definitaly be the longest AA 767 route.

Not even close. LY flew (flies?) MIA-TLV with 762s, and that's about 1000 miles longer. 767s can easily make LAX-Europe, which is about the same length (and a far more demanding flight westbound).

Quoting AAL0616 (Reply 40):
Also, it will hold an EZE frequency away from potential competitors on other possible routes from North America.

With the new bilateral, I doubt this will be an issue.
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MAH4546
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RE: AA Applies ORD-EZE From 28OCT07

Thu Apr 05, 2007 7:19 am

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 48):
Not even close. LY flew (flies?) MIA-TLV with 762s, and that's about 1000 miles longer

Still does, 3x weekly. World's longest 767 route.

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 48):
Quoting AAL0616 (Reply 40):
Also, it will hold an EZE frequency away from potential competitors on other possible routes from North America.

With the new bilateral, I doubt this will be an issue.

It will still be an issue because the new bilateral will be phasing in. In 2009, it won't be an issue. Right now, the new bilateral is still limited for US carriers.
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