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Northwest Dropping MXP Service

Sat Jul 29, 2000 5:45 am

NW just announced after barely half a year of service, it is dropping its DTW-MXP service, supposedly due to disappointing loads. Now this is sure awfully soon to be dropping service due to that reason...shouldn't that be
say...after 2 years of poor loads...I mean...the market was just opened, give it a chance to pick up!

I am led to believe this move was motivated perhaps at the request of KLM, who broke of an alliance with Alitalia, and it might also signal the canning of the NW/AZ alliance. Currently NW codeshares on scores of AZ flights from both MXP & FCO to other Italian cities and most European cities.

On the bright side, I don't really care for NW, and as a frequent traveler to Italy, hopefully this will prompt another carrier to take over that slot that NW is leaving behind.

Just before posting, I read another release indicating that the MXP aircraft will be used to fly increased frequencies to India---this is likely merely an excuse, as the India expansion was expanded last week.

If any of you have any other comments or speculations, please post.
Thanks,

Jim
 
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RE: Northwest Dropping MXP Service

Sat Jul 29, 2000 8:39 am

I don't know whether KL reqested Northwest to stop the serivice, but I do believe the divorce between KLM and Alitalia definately had something to do with it. AZ was hoping to build up its MXP hub and KLM provided them with financial support to to this. However without the backup of KLM in the alliance to support expansion, service to DTW-MXP may not get the load factors NW would have hoped for. Does this make sense? Also, does NW still have an alliance with Alitalia?

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RE: Northwest Dropping MXP Service

Sat Jul 29, 2000 2:34 pm

Wow. NW dropping MXP service seems fairly odd, primarily because they still have a rather extensive alliance with Alitalia. This may signify the end of that.

I also think that KL may have had an influence in NW dropping the route. However, another influence may have been the consistent delays at MXP. This flight never seemed to run on time, as I periodically checked the status of it on nwa.com.

Jfuoco... Does NW still plan to fly DTW-FCO?

Thanks.

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Sat Jul 29, 2000 6:31 pm

NWA also stopped their nonstop service from MSP to OSL this year after just 9 months of service. The route had a good cabin load, and was flown in cooperation with KLM.

Braathens who is a KLM/NWA partner had service from both Stockholm and Gothenburg in order to feed the route with Swedish passengers.

The service ended very sudden, and very surprisingly. Here in Norway there were NO advertsiment for this service so NWA didn't try very hard I think.

The route was operated daily by a DC-10.

I guess this just shows that NWA is very fast in order to stop service who seams to be running quite well. There must perhaps be another reason?
 
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WRE: Northwest Dropping MXP Service

Sat Jul 29, 2000 7:02 pm


It could be load factors between DTW-MXP, because JFK-MXP on DL has had
very high loads.

OTH, many airlines do not like MXP - It is a hour away from Milano on the
Expressway, and Italian Govt. forcing carriers to use MXP as opposed to
LIN.
 
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RE: Northwest Dropping MXP Service

Sun Jul 30, 2000 12:31 am

load factor on this leg is good but it seems like klm had a voice in this..also miami will have ams service in oct with a dc-10.....
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RE: Northwest Dropping MXP Service

Sun Jul 30, 2000 12:31 am

DTW-FCO will remain, but DTW-MXP does free up a DC-10 for Northwest on their expanded India flights which they recently annouced out of AMS with KLM.
 
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RE: Northwest Dropping MXP Service

Mon Jul 31, 2000 3:22 am

Yeah, interesting that MXP was dropped. It certainly is a very significant European dest. DL, TW, and AZ all pack flights in to JFK and I'm sure CO does the same in Jersey. Favre, whose starting MIA-AMS service with the DC10? Northwest or KLM or both?

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RE: Northwest Dropping MXP Service

Mon Jul 31, 2000 3:44 am

My bet is just a thorn in the side of AZ.

Certainly can't be bad for AA, CO, DL, and TW's loads into Milan.

I think AA will benefit the most from this decision as ORD is probabally the easiest connection for the DTW pax.

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