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Is It Likely The A380 Will Fly To SEA

Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:45 am

Based on current orders it doesn't seem likely the A380 will be a common sight at SEA. WIth UPS and FedEx opting out, are there (based on current orders) any possible airline that would fly to SEA.
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RE: Is It Likely The A380 Will Fly To SEA

Thu Apr 05, 2007 11:17 am

Not in the foreseeable future.
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RE: Is It Likely The A380 Will Fly To SEA

Thu Apr 05, 2007 11:31 am

No international airlines with them on the books would fill all those seats. There'd be no need for that much capacity at SEA.
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RE: Is It Likely The A380 Will Fly To SEA

Thu Apr 05, 2007 11:51 am

There's a good chance you'll see them there for the 2010 Winter Games, but otherwise I doubt it.
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RE: Is It Likely The A380 Will Fly To SEA

Thu Apr 05, 2007 11:54 am

I don't think that it will happen anytime soon. SEA doesn't even see that many 747s. SEA used to have 747s from NW, UA, BA, OZ and BR, but now it is down to sometimes BA and BR which will be switching to 777s. I don't think A380s are coming in the near future. Maybe if BA gets them, but other than that, I don't think they are likely in the next decade.
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RE: Is It Likely The A380 Will Fly To SEA

Thu Apr 05, 2007 11:55 am

Quoting MCIGuy (Reply 3):
There's a good chance you'll see them there for the 2010 Winter Games, but otherwise I doubt it.

Why would those go to SEA? The games are in Whistler and Vancouver Canada? YVR will get the special stuff.
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RE: Is It Likely The A380 Will Fly To SEA

Thu Apr 05, 2007 11:56 am

Quoting S12PPL (Reply 2):
No international airlines with them on the books would fill all those seats. There'd be no need for that much capacity at SEA.

I disagree. I think in certain instances, the A380 would work perfectly at SEA. Take the case of BA for instance. The daily 744 is overloaded in the summer, so additional frequencies are added on certain days. On these days, I'm sure the yields in F and C take a hit because of the glut of extra capacity. In such a case, the A380 would be a perfect fit because it would be more capacity than a 744, but less than 2x daily service. I know BA hasn't ordered the A380, but wanted to demonstrate that it could be ideal under current conditions.

While the A380 is touted as serving high-capacity flagship routes, I think it would actually be just as successful on routes such as this one, where there is more demand than a daily 744 can fulfill, but less than 2x daily 744s or 777s.

That said, I don't believe SEA has made any upgrades in anticipation of the A380, and they certainly aren't expecting it here, so I doubt we'll see one anytime soon.
 
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RE: Is It Likely The A380 Will Fly To SEA

Thu Apr 05, 2007 12:02 pm

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 5):

Yeah, but with full hotels and such, I was thinking SEA would probably get the overflow. A buddy of mine stayed in Seattle when he skied Whistler-Blackcomb.

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RE: Is It Likely The A380 Will Fly To SEA

Thu Apr 05, 2007 12:27 pm

No. Sea-Tac officials announced several years ago that they won't pay for the upgrades necessary to accomodate the A380. It's not very likely any airline would be looking at flying it here anyways.

http://archives.seattletimes.nwsourc...2&date=20050212&query=Sea-Tac+A380

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Just to reiterate: http://seattle.bizjournals.com/seatt...e/stories/2005/01/31/tidbits1.html

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RE: Is It Likely The A380 Will Fly To SEA

Thu Apr 05, 2007 12:28 pm

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 4):
I don't think that it will happen anytime soon. SEA doesn't even see that many 747s. SEA used to have 747s from NW, UA, BA, OZ and BR, but now it is down to sometimes BA and BR which will be switching to 777s

OZ used to fly the Combi here, the 772 they send is actually an INCREASE in seats. BA sends 10x weekly 744s here in the summer, 7x weekly 744 and 3x weekly 772 in late winter/spring and fall. The only time we see no 744s from BA is in the dead of winter when we still see 10x weekly 772s. Yes, BR says they are planning on sending a 773 here. That is also an increase in Capacity over the combi they send here now.
 
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RE: Is It Likely The A380 Will Fly To SEA

Thu Apr 05, 2007 4:28 pm

Quoting Gunsontheroof (Reply 8):
No. Sea-Tac officials announced several years ago that they won't pay for the upgrades necessary to accomodate the A380.

With Boeing's assembly plant right down the freeway, it would almost be a slap in the face to a lot of Washingtonians if Sea-Tac officials had decided to pay for those upgrades.

Honestly though, I just don't see the demand for it. The only airline with a hub at SEA is AS, and they are not a major player in a huge world alliance. Remember that the A380 was built for markets like FRA-ORD (with connecting traffic at both ends) or markets with lots of O and D traffic like LAX, LHR, HKG, NRT, and NYC. Although the SEA area is a major metropolitan area, it's not a big enough O and D market to warrant one of the A380 customers flying the whale-jet there.
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RE: Is It Likely The A380 Will Fly To SEA

Thu Apr 05, 2007 5:28 pm

SEA no, though Airbus might want to do a touch-and-go at PAE.
 
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RE: Is It Likely The A380 Will Fly To SEA

Thu Apr 05, 2007 6:08 pm

Quoting Zvezda (Reply 11):
SEA no, though Airbus might want to do a touch-and-go at PAE.

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RE: Is It Likely The A380 Will Fly To SEA

Thu Apr 05, 2007 6:30 pm

Quoting MCIGuy (Reply 12):
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RE: Is It Likely The A380 Will Fly To SEA

Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:18 pm

No A380 at SEA even if the airport made said upgrades--in reference to the winter olympics that wouldn't even justify an A380--even if they did get overflow you'd only see marginal upgrades at SEA (a 757 for a 737 or a 747 for a 777 at best).
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