Iloveboeing
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LHR Question

Thu Apr 05, 2007 1:07 pm

Hello everyone,

I have a question about LHR. I am going to Europe with a group in May and coming back we're going to fly LH from MUC to LHR and then connect to UA to fly on to ORD.

I noticed that LH flies into Terminal 2 and UA flies out of Terminal 3. Is it difficult to connect between the airlines/terminals? How is it done? Do we have to go through customs? Also, will our bags automatically transfer?

Thanks a lot!
 
deltaflyertoo
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RE: LHR Question

Thu Apr 05, 2007 2:19 pm

Its super easy! Follow the yellow signs that say "Flight Connections." Unlike airports here in the US, LHR knows and expects a large # of daily pax to be switching airines. They make it very accomodating and the bus that goes between the terminals actually follows routes out on the tarmac! You get some amazing close up engine views! You will need to go through security once again in T3 and check in for your UAL flight, which they should have a special kiosk for pax like you. I'm fiercly loyal to VS for my flights from LAX to Europe. So I've connected through LHR by flying, BMI, British Airways and Alitalia in and always found it east to connect to my VS flight to LAX. Good luck!
 
Steve332
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RE: LHR Question

Thu Apr 05, 2007 8:29 pm

I think there is also a tunnel connecting them, I connected to T1 a couple of months ago from GF (I dont know if it was T2 or T3 I arrived into, it was 06:30am and id had 2 long flights beforehand) and I never went outside so I'm sure all 3 have connecting tunnels, after all they're all in the same vicinity.
 
Iloveboeing
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RE: LHR Question

Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:31 pm

Quoting Deltaflyertoo (Reply 1):
Good luck!



Quoting Steve332 (Reply 2):
I think there is also a tunnel connecting them, I connected to T1 a couple of months ago from GF (I dont know if it was T2 or T3 I arrived into, it was 06:30am and id had 2 long flights beforehand) and I never went outside so I'm sure all 3 have connecting tunnels, after all they're all in the same vicinity.

Thanks to both of you!
 
ekskycargo370
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RE: LHR Question

Thu Apr 05, 2007 11:42 pm

LHR is quite possibly the worst airport in the world to transit through,I would consider other possibilities.
 
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RE: LHR Question

Fri Apr 06, 2007 2:51 am

Quoting EKSkycargo370 (Reply 4):
LHR is quite possibly the worst airport in the world to transit through,I would consider other possibilities.

Skycargo,
The OP stated that his ticket is already booked as part of a group travel arrangement and he obviously cannot change it to transit elsewhere. I agree that transiting LHR is not the most fun thing in the world (and I personally avoided it on my upcoming trip to MAN) but your post was really unhelpful. The OP was looking for lemonade, and you handed him prune juice.
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Rivet42
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RE: LHR Question

Fri Apr 06, 2007 8:09 am

Hi,

there is indeed an tunnelled walkway system, primarily for getting to the terminals (1,2,3) from the Underground, rail and bus/coach stations. You can use these tunnels to go from T2 to T3, but you'd have to pass through customs & immigration to do so, which is probably not necessary in your case. Better to stay airside, that's the only place you can see any aircraft from!

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RE: LHR Question

Fri Apr 06, 2007 8:33 am

Quoting EKSkycargo370 (Reply 4):
LHR is quite possibly the worst airport in the world to transit through,I would consider other possibilities.

Fully agree. It's too bad you can't use LH's nonstop MUC-ORD A340-600. It would make for a much more relaxing trip, not to mention increasing the likelihood that your bags don't go astray, another major problem at LHR (and BA).

Just one further comment re connections at LHR. During peak periods (which seem to be almost all year now), there can be long lines at the security check which all connecting passengers have to go through. The wait can sometimes be 45 minutes or more with many flights arriving closely together. It's always best to allow more than the minimum legal connecting time at LHR. That has come in handy several times when I've connected there, especially with frequent holding delays for flights arriving LHR during peak hours. I missed a BA/BA connection 10 days ago YUL-LHR-GVA and that didn't require a change of terminals (both use T4) due to long lines at the security check. The connection allowed 1 hr 10 min. Although the YUL-LHR lfight only arrived 15 minutes late, with the long wait at security I only made it to the gate for GVA 5 minutes before scheduled departure time but the flight had already been closed. Had to wait for the next flight, fortunately only 90 minutes later.
 
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RE: LHR Question

Fri Apr 06, 2007 9:03 am

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 7):
there can be long lines at the security check which all connecting passengers have to go through. The wait can sometimes be 45 minutes or more with many flights arriving closely together.

That's a good point - indeed, if the queue is that long, it's probably quicker to go out through customs, and go straight back through the external security check! However, be aware that at T4 you might end up stuck in a tent in the carpark, waiting to be allowed back into the building...!!

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RE: LHR Question

Fri Apr 06, 2007 12:29 pm

One more pointer re connecting at LHR. Current security rules permit only one piece of carry-on baggage when departing from the UK. On flights TO the UK (or anywhere else), you may often be permitted to carry a briefcase or laptop bag etc. in addition to a standard carry-on bag. That's not permitted FROM the UK.

If you have two such bags when you reach the security checkpoint en route to your connecting flight, or if you have a bag containing duty-free purchases you bought at the origin point of the inbound flight (or onboard the flight), they will stop you. If the second item is small enough to fit inside your larger bag, you can do that. If not, they'll force you to check one of the bags. Depending on the connecting time, that probably means there's a good chance the bag they check won't make it onto your flight.

Once you get through the security check, you can then make duty-free purchases at LHR and carry them separately onboard your departing flight, but at the security checkpoint itself you can only have one carry-on bag.

LHR (and LGW) are also the only airports I've been through recently where all passengers are required to remove their shoes and send them through the X-ray machine, requiring you to walk a fair distance in your socks (or bare feet) across filthy carpet that thousands of other people from all over the world have walked across. It doesn't seem very sanitary. I noticed one man, after removing his shoes and putting them on the X-ray belt, put some paper booties over his socks before he walked through the metal detector. I'm not sure whether the shoe removal requirement is only for connecting passengers or also for originating passengers, since those involve separate security checkpoints.

All of that also adds to the delays at the security checks. I haven't seen any of those requirements enforced from any other countries in Europe. They will of course often ask you to remove your shoes if you set off the metal detector, or if passengers know that their shoes have metal in the soles etc, they will just remove their shoes themselves, but to require everyone to remove their shoes seems excessive.

Re the shoe removal requirement and the filthy carpet, I don't know why British airports, LHR In particular, seem to like using carpet all over the place, which is hard to keep clean and quickly gets stained and and is often shabby and torn with tape holding it together. I can't recall seeing carpet in heavy traffic areas of any other airports in Europe. It's much easier to keep tile or other hard surfaces clean.
 
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RE: LHR Question

Fri Apr 06, 2007 5:59 pm

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 9):
I haven't seen any of those requirements enforced from any other countries in Europe.

Last time I used it, DUB also required every pax to remove shoes and have them x-rayed.

Quoting Iloveboeing (Thread starter):
Also, will our bags automatically transfer?

Flying on one ticket MUC-LHR-ORD your checked baggage will be transferred. No need to pick it up at LHR.

Quoting Rivet42 (Reply 8):
However, be aware that at T4 you might end up stuck in a tent in the carpark, waiting to be allowed back into the building...!!

Another strange thing going on at LHR ...
But fortunately, the OP has a connection between T2 and T3.
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With all the unfriedly things going on at LHR, I am getting more and more happy that
a) BA pulled out of HAJ - LHR (and LGW) completely and
b) BD downgraded HAJ-LHR to E145's giving available seats premium prices (there are some exceptions though)
so that it makes it easier to
c) use other airports for (onward-)connections and
d) use non-stop served STN (or BHX / MAN / NCL / SOU) for O&D flights.

While some BA-pax might get a better treatment once T5 is open, those stuck in T1/2/3 will continue having to endure the current level of "service" until Heathrow-East becomes operational.
As I do not see a chance that flights from HAJ to LHR will be re-instated by BA (availability of slots vs.revenue) or upgraded to mainline by BD, LHR very likely will remain out of my travel considerations ...
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RE: LHR Question

Fri Apr 06, 2007 6:30 pm

Quoting HT (Reply 10):
Flying on one ticket MUC-LHR-ORD your checked baggage will be transferred. No need to pick it up at LHR.

But if the connection time is less than 3 hours don't bet on seeing your bags when you arrive at ORD. In the past 7 years on connections involving T3 (from and to either T2 or T1) bags belonging to my family have gone astray on no less then 6 different connections, some not turning up for 3 days.

Quoting BDL2DCA (Reply 5):
The OP was looking for lemonade, and you handed him prune juice.

Sometimes there is only the prune juice of truth.
 
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RE: LHR Question

Fri Apr 06, 2007 6:33 pm

Quoting Rivet42 (Reply 8):
However, be aware that at T4 you might end up stuck in a tent in the carpark, waiting to be allowed back into the building...!!

Eh? Whats that about?
 
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RE: LHR Question

Fri Apr 06, 2007 7:51 pm

Quoting Emirates029 (Reply 12):
Quoting Rivet42 (Reply 8):
However, be aware that at T4 you might end up stuck in a tent in the carpark, waiting to be allowed back into the building...!!

Eh? Whats that about?

I think he is referring to the day when BA was on strike or the day the new security procedures were implemented, as the BAA seem to have a liking to erecting a tent in the car park in T4 to avoid them all screaming in the terminal about how awful there queues are.
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Steve332
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RE: LHR Question

Fri Apr 06, 2007 8:10 pm

Quoting HT (Reply 10):
Last time I used it, DUB also required every pax to remove shoes and have them x-rayed.

Iv never had that, I have brought water, hair gel and so fourth trough security neumorous times and never been questiond about it. As for the shoes never even seen it before in DUB.
 
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RE: LHR Question

Fri Apr 06, 2007 8:24 pm

 
carledwards
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RE: LHR Question

Fri Apr 06, 2007 9:59 pm

Quoting Glom (Reply 15):
Have you seen?

Some London Assembly members are trying to make sure LHR stays crap.

hmm thats interesting. well hopefully 'red Ken' will not listen to her  Smile
ALL of London's transport needs investment, including the airports!

She is only one member though, so I dont know how many others will support her?
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ekskycargo370
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RE: LHR Question

Sat Apr 07, 2007 4:55 am

At the end of the day even being an employee and trying to get airside and get cargo delivered aircraft side is a daily challenge.Something should be done about BAA,they are total jobsworths,and do not know some of the problems and consequences they are causing carriers.