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U.S. Airways 757's

Sun Apr 08, 2007 1:12 am

What routes will U.S. put their wingleted 757's on? I know they want to fly them across the pond, but to what destinations? And are their 757's equipped with the 535E4B's for the extra range they will be flying? Sorry if this has been posted already.

On a side note, I think US 752's w/winglets are some of the best looking 757s out there.
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RE: U.S. Airways 757's

Sun Apr 08, 2007 1:13 am

Well one destination is definately GLA.

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RE: U.S. Airways 757's

Sun Apr 08, 2007 1:19 am

BRU is going to be another one.
 
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RE: U.S. Airways 757's

Sun Apr 08, 2007 1:33 am

Quoting EA772LR (Thread starter):
What routes will U.S. put their wingleted 757's on?

7 planes, for 6 routes with 1 spare for maintenance

AMS, BRU, DUB, GLA, LIS, SNN

Quoting EA772LR (Thread starter):
And are their 757's equipped with the 535E4B's for the extra range they will be flying?

US Airways' B757s are all equipped with the RB211-535E4. They have not uprated the engines any further at this time. (I don't know how feasible/possible it would be if they wanted to.)
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RE: U.S. Airways 757's

Sun Apr 08, 2007 3:03 am

I love the irony at the fact that the US 757 is now the more comfortable aircraft to fly across the Atlantic in then the US A330. Hooray "profit".
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RE: U.S. Airways 757's

Sun Apr 08, 2007 4:28 pm

Quoting Whappeh (Reply 4):
US 757 is now the more comfortable aircraft to fly across the Atlantic in then the US A330

It may be a little more confy than the A333 but the A333 is not NEARLY as bad as the B762!
 
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RE: U.S. Airways 757's

Sun Apr 08, 2007 6:12 pm

Hi!

Yeah, right...the 757 "the more confortable aircraft to fly across the Atlantic..." only maybe because USAir gives you excelent prices...otherwise I would skip their 757 everytime I could.....my worst experience flying over the Atlantic was in a USAir 757, with those narrow seats and such a poor service it's practically impossible!!!
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RE: U.S. Airways 757's

Sun Apr 08, 2007 7:39 pm

Quoting Whappeh (Reply 4):
I love the irony at the fact that the US 757 is now the more comfortable aircraft to fly across the Atlantic in then the US A330. Hooray "profit".

Could you elaborate a little, why US 752's are the best aircraft accross the Atlantic?

I understand the flight is sold all as economy, with the First Class cabin designated for Frequent Fliers and full fare economy passengers (similar to when AA operated the 752 MAN-BOS service). But surely for the rest of the passengers on the flight are just going to experience anoter "Run of the Mill" 752 flight across the pond?

US service is hardly legendry (but I have no gripes), so I don't think this is going to the make it the best...

I have flown the US A330's many times and I think this aircraft is in a league of its own compared to the rest of the US fleet on Trans Atlantic flights.
 
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RE: U.S. Airways 757's

Sun Apr 08, 2007 7:57 pm

Quoting Gilesdavies (Reply 7):
I understand the flight is sold all as economy

The aircraft were all economy last year. For this summer they have added 12 Envoy class seats.

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RE: U.S. Airways 757's

Sun Apr 08, 2007 11:58 pm

Quoting Gilesdavies (Reply 7):

I have flown the US A330's many times and I think this aircraft is in a league of its own compared to the rest of the US fleet on Trans Atlantic flights.

Have you flown on it recently? The redone cabins are horrid. Seats are the same, just about 6 inches closer together. I recently saw photos on a company news website that... well,

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w153/Chugalugdoug/Poorroom1.jpg

A lot of good that TV does when its 2 inches from your face....

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w153/Chugalugdoug/Poorroom2.jpg

Legroom....

The re-done cabins in the 330 are appalling, and feel "Cattle Carish", and I am a US Airways cheerleader.
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RE: U.S. Airways 757's

Mon Apr 09, 2007 12:28 am

God , those photos look horrible. I would die if I had to sit in those for more than an few hours. Lucky my next US flights are in F and its a 757. I would never fly US in Y and only in Envoy if there was nothing else. F in domestic is tolerable.
 
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RE: U.S. Airways 757's

Mon Apr 09, 2007 12:45 am

How about seeing these 757s on Hawaii routes when they merge their operating certificates.
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RE: U.S. Airways 757's

Mon Apr 09, 2007 12:48 am

Quoting EA772LR (Thread starter):
On a side note, I think US 752's w/winglets are some of the best looking 757s out there.



Quoting RamerinianAir (Reply 11):
How about seeing these 757s on Hawaii routes when they merge their operating certificates.

HP will use its own planes from what I hear. They are already ETOPS certified.

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RE: U.S. Airways 757's

Mon Apr 09, 2007 12:52 am

Quoting Whappeh (Reply 9):

Goodness what did Parker smoke. That is not the 330 I left at US. They used to have a nice comfortable 33 / 34 in pitch. Made for a very comfortable transatlantic crossing. From the picutres, it looks simply horrid.
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RE: U.S. Airways 757's

Mon Apr 09, 2007 12:54 am

Quoting Captaink (Reply 13):
Goodness what did Parker smoke

The notion that you can have profit by having everyone in the world fly your airline once for 150 dollars a seat, rather then having a solid base of return customers. Sadly, it seems to be working too....
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RE: U.S. Airways 757's

Mon Apr 09, 2007 1:17 am

wow. Those cabin shots look horrendous. It looks like the inside of a charter airplane.... I would die if I had to sit in a chair like that for 8 hours. There's "snug", there's "tight" and there's "insanely small". Its pretty clear which category those fall into....

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RE: U.S. Airways 757's

Mon Apr 09, 2007 1:28 am

I am going on US, PHL-MAD on a 757 in June. I wonder if it is going to be a winglet.
 
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RE: U.S. Airways 757's

Mon Apr 09, 2007 1:52 am

Quoting MEACEDAR (Reply 16):
I am going on US, PHL-MAD on a 757 in June. I wonder if it is going to be a winglet.

It may be. I think they are trying to get them all retrofitted for the Summer season.
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RE: U.S. Airways 757's

Mon Apr 09, 2007 1:59 am

How does US 330 legroom compare to the competition? It is exactly the same, is it not? The photo showed a man whose neighbor reclined in his face. Obviously, that sucks. NW has the same config, right? Do AA/UA 777s have more legroom?

Quoting MEACEDAR (Reply 16):
I am going on US, PHL-MAD on a 757 in June.

No, it will probably be an A333.
 
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RE: U.S. Airways 757's

Mon Apr 09, 2007 2:30 am

Quoting Whappeh (Reply 9):
Have you flown on it recently? The redone cabins are horrid. Seats are the same, just about 6 inches closer together.

Wow, I am really disappointed by this news...

One of the reasons I flew US on the A330 was the great legroom and always found it comfortable!

Quoting Flighty (Reply 18):
How does US 330 legroom compare to the competition? It is exactly the same, is it not? The photo showed a man whose neighbor reclined in his face. Obviously, that sucks. NW has the same config, right? Do AA/UA 777s have more legroom?

Just looking at the seat config and it is on average 31inch seat pitch... Where previously they use to boast 33-35 inches!

The config is exactly the same as NW and their 333's.

Im not sure of the seats NW use on their 333's, but the seats on US 333's are very bulky and thickly padded which will obviously eat into the leg room further!

Envoy Class was obviously not as much of a cash cow for US Airways on Trans-Atlantic flights as other carriers experience!

Here's the seat configs:
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RE: U.S. Airways 757's

Mon Apr 09, 2007 3:09 am

Quoting Flighty (Reply 18):
How does US 330 legroom compare to the competition? It is exactly the same, is it not? The photo showed a man whose neighbor reclined in his face. Obviously, that sucks. NW has the same config, right? Do AA/UA 777s have more legroom?

NW's have slightly more legroom (both from flying a NW 333 and looking at that pic, and from referencing seatguru and USairways.com and nwa.com

UA 777 are 31" pitch in Y, which is the same, but having flown them, they also don't look that tight... maybe the seats in UA aren't as thick? I think AA's 777s are 32" but are pretty thick, nicely padded seats.

NW's transatlantic 757s are going to have the best pitch of their fleet in Y, so it seems that the strategy is to compensate for the less airy, roomy feeling of a narrowbody with more space in the seat...
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RE: U.S. Airways 757's

Mon Apr 09, 2007 3:17 am

I guess that I am missing the point.......everyone is getting upset over the fact that US's economy class seats have 31 inches of pitch? Just about every airline worldwide has its economy cabin set up with the seat pitch at 31 to 32 inches, why do you expect US to be different or offer more room than industry standard? Am I missing something?
 
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RE: U.S. Airways 757's

Mon Apr 09, 2007 3:30 am

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 21):
Just about every airline worldwide has its economy cabin set up with the seat pitch at 31 to 32 inches, why do you expect US to be different or offer more room than industry standard? Am I missing something?

Yeah, again, the photo has the seat directly ahead of him fully reclined in his face. That is not an accurate picture of seat pitch, nor is the second photo. The person is slouching with their derriere scooted way forward.
 
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RE: U.S. Airways 757's

Mon Apr 09, 2007 4:08 am

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 21):
I guess that I am missing the point.......everyone is getting upset over the fact that US's economy class seats have 31 inches of pitch? Just about every airline worldwide has its economy cabin set up with the seat pitch at 31 to 32 inches, why do you expect US to be different or offer more room than industry standard? Am I missing something?

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Quoting Flighty (Reply 22):
Yeah, again, the photo has the seat directly ahead of him fully reclined in his face. That is not an accurate picture of seat pitch, nor is the second photo. The person is slouching with their derriere scooted way forward.

Whats more the US A330 seats seem to be very thick, whilst other airlines have slightly thinner seats. Who knows, maybe the US A330s are still comfortable.
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RE: U.S. Airways 757's

Mon Apr 09, 2007 6:21 am

Quoting A330323X (Reply 3):
Quoting EA772LR (Thread starter):
What routes will U.S. put their wingleted 757's on?

7 planes, for 6 routes with 1 spare for maintenance

AMS, BRU, DUB, GLA, LIS, SNN

Are they planning new Routes to DUB?
 
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RE: U.S. Airways 757's

Mon Apr 09, 2007 6:41 am

Quoting EI321 (Reply 24):
Quoting A330323X (Reply 3):
Quoting EA772LR (Thread starter):
What routes will U.S. put their wingleted 757's on?

7 planes, for 6 routes with 1 spare for maintenance

AMS, BRU, DUB, GLA, LIS, SNN

Are they planning new Routes to DUB?

No.
 
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RE: U.S. Airways 757's

Mon Apr 09, 2007 7:30 am

I have to agree with CV900. I will never fly over the pond on US B757's again. It was just as bad as he said it was. And from what I here they are not going to update their Envoy class on these planes. Only the 767 and A333 will have this class. If fact I have not been on an US aircraft since then because of the bad service we got on both of our flights over and back. US needs to get their act to gether and figure out what they are going to do business wise.
 
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RE: U.S. Airways 757's

Mon Apr 09, 2007 7:46 am

Quoting CV990 (Reply 6):
only maybe because USAir gives you excelent prices...

I non-rev on US Airways... so the price is always right.
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RE: U.S. Airways 757's

Mon Apr 09, 2007 7:55 am

The A330 now is definetly not very pleasing. I just got back from a PHX-PHL-MAN-GLA route on US with the A333 over the pond and I definetly did not find it comfortable. Going over and being in the bulkhead was a blessing, and as others have said, the PTV is literally right in front of your face!


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RE: U.S. Airways 757's

Mon Apr 09, 2007 9:42 am

usairways will be flying the 767's to spain . not the 757's.
 
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RE: U.S. Airways 757's

Mon Apr 09, 2007 5:36 pm

Hi!

Just to complement my point I flew USAir 757 N203UW from PHL to LIS last October but before that ( July 2006 ) I flew CO 757 LIS/EWR/LIS and it was a very good flight, the seats were OK, the service was nice too, we had those pop-up screens that helps too. The US 757 I flew still had those old fashioned "TV's" above the aisle and guess this....they wanted to charge me $5 for a set of headphones....on a Intercontinental flight???? Come on, that very, very cheap!!! I don't know if this helps but I found out that the US 757 I flew came from ATA, maybe the seat configuration was really tight with them....on the brighter side, I flew LAX to PHL in a US A321 and amazingly the Airbus was much more confortable with a nice seat pitch...maybe US should buy Airbus A321 "ER" and fly with them over "the pond"....surely the passengers would have a great ride!
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