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KLM Fleet? & More

Tue Apr 10, 2007 9:54 pm

After my wonderful flight on KLM 612, I want to know more about this wonderful airline.

What does KLM stand for/meaning?

There long-haul fleet looks to consist of MD-11, 777-200, 747-400(M), 330-200. Anyone know how many of each are in the fleet and how many more, if any, deliveries are scheduled for the 777 & 330? Also, would anyone have the registrations for their long-haul fleet. Especially interested in their 747s, 330s, & 777s. To give someone a challenge, could they list the city or name of the aircraft with the registrations.

Besides bringing a 74M to ORD, would anyone care to share where the long-haul aircraft fly to Summer/Winter Schedules.

To those who work for KLM, kudos to you for providing excellent service and having a wonderful airline.

Thanks in advance.
 
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RE: KLM Fleet? & More

Tue Apr 10, 2007 10:00 pm

http://www.klm.com/travel/corporate_...anisation_facts/index.htm?id=21979

Here you can find a pdf file with their fleet. It is often out of date though.

Quoting B764 (Thread starter):
What does KLM stand for/meaning?

Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij (Or Royal Airline in englinsh)

Quoting B764 (Thread starter):
To give someone a challenge, could they list the city or name of the aircraft with the registrations.

Check airfleets.net. They usually also list the names of the aircraft. They have a fleet of about 100 aircraft, so listing all names here would be a bit much...
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RE: KLM Fleet? & More

Tue Apr 10, 2007 10:27 pm

In short:

MD-11: 10
747-400: 22 (+ 3 freighters)
777-200ER: 14
A330-200: 8

On order: 1 more 777-200ER, 2 more A330-200s, and 4 777-300ERs.
 
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RE: KLM Fleet? & More

Tue Apr 10, 2007 11:00 pm

KLM is having Problems with th MD-11, the KL 671 to YUL is often in the last month being swap for B744 and B772, even SXM de the occasional B744 in replacement...
 
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Wed Apr 11, 2007 2:37 am

Quoting Scorpio (Reply 2):
On order: 1 more 777-200ER, 2 more A330-200s, and 4 777-300ERs

One more B772ER (PH-BQP) and one more A332 (PH-AOK) will be delivered this month. The final A332 (PH-AOL) and the B77W frames are scheduled for delivery starting early 2008.
 
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RE: KLM Fleet? & More

Wed Apr 11, 2007 2:51 am

Quoting B764 (Thread starter):

What does KLM stand for/meaning?

You can find a lot if information on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KLM
 
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RE: KLM Fleet? & More

Wed Apr 11, 2007 8:33 am

Quoting HB-IWC (Reply 4):
One more B772ER (PH-BQP)

Is this plane ILFC owned? How many 772ER are leased from ILFC?

AFAIK, PH-BQP is listed as 773-306ER, could you please confirm?

Regards, Fyano

[Edited 2007-04-11 01:37:19]
 
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RE: KLM Fleet? & More

Wed Apr 11, 2007 8:41 am

Quoting Kappel (Reply 1):
Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij

Isn't KL's full legal name "Koninklijke Nederlandse Luchtvaart Maatschappij" (just that the Nederlandse or N was skipped from the abbreviation)? Otherwise, KL wouldn't be known in English as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines.
 
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Wed Apr 11, 2007 7:49 pm

Quoting Fyano773 (Reply 6):
AFAIK, PH-BQP is listed as 773-306ER, could you please confirm?

PH-BQP is KLM's last B777-206ER on order and has been assigned number 630 on the production line. The aircraft will be leased from ILFC. KLM's 4 B777-306ER on order will be registered PH-BVA/B/C/D.
 
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RE: KLM Fleet? & More

Wed Apr 11, 2007 8:22 pm

It is cool you liked the flights on board KLM, personnally I find their service very respectful like in the old days, you feel you are travelling instead of being transported (as you would feel onboard other safety obsessive carriers, this doesnt mean KL is not safe, in fact I feel safer on board KL than on any other carrier).
The list of the names of planes is on airfleets as Kappel already said "http://www.airfleets.net/flottecie/KLM.htm", however I can summarize it up for you (106 operating aircraft):

B747-400s are named after cities,
KLM Asia aircraft have the following names: Mexico City, City of Rio de Janeiro, City of Calgary, Dubai, City of Paramaribo, Hong Kong, and Freetown
B747-400F are named Oranje, Leeuwin, and Eendracht.
B737-300 are named after important male scientists... ex. Niels Bohr.
B737-400 are named after important explorers... ex. Vasco da Gamma, Christopher Columbus.
B737-800 and -900 are named after birds... ex. Hawk, Swan, Goose, and the new wingleted (PH-BXV) which is called something like red breast (a kind of nice birdie)
B777-200ER are named after world landmarks... ex. Darjeeling Railway, Chichen Itza, Kilimanjaro, though this is mountain.
A330-200 are named after important (and not so important) world squares... ex. Dam Amsterdam, Potsdammer Platz.
MD-11 are named after important women, such as Audrey Hepburn, Florence Nightingale, Mother Theresa, Ingrid Bergmann...

The 747-300 were named after bridges if my memory works correctly,

I hope this works.
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RE: KLM Fleet? & More

Wed Apr 11, 2007 8:30 pm

Quoting KLAM (Reply 9):
The 747-300 were named after bridges if my memory works correctly,

No, that were the 763's. The 743's were IIRC inventors.
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Wed Apr 11, 2007 8:31 pm

Quoting KLAM (Reply 9):
The 747-300 were named after bridges if my memory works correctly

Those were the 767s. The 747-300s had names like Leonardo Da Vinci, Sir Geoffrey de Havilland, etc.
 
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Wed Apr 11, 2007 8:57 pm

Quoting Kappel (Reply 10):
No, that were the 763's. The 743's were IIRC inventors

LOL that´s true... sorry for the mistake.
BTW does anybody know how were the 742 named?

Sorry once again for the mistake.

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RE: KLM Fleet? & More

Wed Apr 11, 2007 9:54 pm

KLAM: Your right, it felt like the old days of flying.

I went to airfleets and got the registrations. Now I was wondering if someone could help with the destinations served by the long-haul fleet from AMS. As I flew KLM 1007 I know they use an A332 to LHR. Any heavies used on other short routes?
 
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Wed Apr 11, 2007 10:01 pm

Quoting KLAM (Reply 12):
BTW does anybody know how were the 742 named?

rivers (Mississippi, Rhein, Ganges etc)
 
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RE: KLM Fleet? & More

Wed Apr 11, 2007 10:12 pm

Quoting B764 (Reply 13):
Any heavies used on other short routes?

Not on a scheduled bases.
When KL and AZ worked together a few years ago, KL operated the B767 to MXP once a day, and KL also used to fly with the B767 to SVO and with a MD11 to LIS/OPO.

Quoting B764 (Reply 13):
destinations served by the long-haul fleet from AMS.

JFK, EWR, IAD, ORD, ATL, IAH, LAX, SFO, YYZ, YUL, YVR, MEX, GRU, CUR, AUA, SXM, PBM, UIO, GYE, LIM, JNB, CPT, EBB, ABV, LOS, KAN, CAI, JRO, DAR, NBO, ACC, HYD, DEL, KWI, AUH, DMM, DOH, DXB, HKG, CTU, PVG, MNL, PEK, BKK, TPE, KUL, SIN, CGK, NRT, KIX, ICN, ALA (TIP/TLV:operated with B737)

I think I got them all.
 
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Wed Apr 11, 2007 10:27 pm

Quoting KLAM (Reply 9):
A330-200 are named after important (and not so important) world squares... ex. Dam Amsterdam, Potsdammer Platz.

I've always found this theme pretty random as tough they were short of ideas...they should have done like their DC10's...name them after famous composers .

Quoting KLAM (Reply 9):
B777-200ER are named after world landmarks... ex. Darjeeling Railway, Chichen Itza, Kilimanjaro, though this is mountain.

To be more precise its all places that have been named by UNESCO as world heritage!  airplane   wave 
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RE: KLM Fleet? & More

Wed Apr 11, 2007 10:42 pm

Quoting Kappel (Reply 1):
Here you can find a pdf file with their fleet. It is often out of date though

I know what pdf file you are talking about and I realy want to have it again, but I can't find it on their website anymore, do you have the direct link to it?

Thanks in advandged
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Wed Apr 11, 2007 11:25 pm

Quoting KLAM (Reply 9):
B777-200ER are named after world landmarks...

except for the PH-BQA which is named after Albert Plesman (founder of KLM)

Quoting KLAM (Reply 9):
The 747-300 were named after bridges if my memory works correctly



Quoting Scorpio (Reply 11):
The 747-300s had names like Leonardo Da Vinci, Sir Geoffrey de Havilland, etc

to be more specific:
All 206B's with P&W engines (BUA-BUG) and 206B's with GE engines (later cvtd to-SUD) (BUO-BUR) were named after rivers. The others where named after persons who had an important role in aviation history.

DC-10's were named after composers
A310's were named after (Dutch) painters, with the PH-AGd beeing renamed in "Marinus Ruppert" (commisioner of KLM)
DC-9's were named after (European) cities
DC-8-33/53 were named after after persons who had an important role in aviation history
DC-8-63 were named after explorers
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RE: KLM Fleet? & More

Thu Apr 12, 2007 12:49 am

Quoting SK601 (Reply 15):
Quoting B764 (Reply 13):
Any heavies used on other short routes?

Not on a scheduled bases.

I know it wasn't scheduled but i remember seeing a KLM 747 at LHR on one of my few trips down. I think it was a 747-200SUD?  Confused
I just thought  Wow!  bigthumbsup  because it was such a surprise. I think it was about 10 years ago now....
 
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Thu Apr 12, 2007 12:54 am

Quoting Morvious (Reply 17):
know what pdf file you are talking about and I realy want to have it again, but I can't find it on their website anymore, do you have the direct link to it?

Hey you are right, it's gone! I wonder why. I will check if it's anywhere else on the site..
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Thu Apr 12, 2007 1:04 am

I personally love KL. I fly to AMS with MP from MCO on a 767, and then countinue on to BEY with KL on a 737. I can not stress how much more comfortable I feel on board KL 737 than MP 767. Anyone could see the difference.
 
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Thu Apr 12, 2007 1:06 am

Quoting KLAM (Reply 9):
B747-400F are named Oranje, Leeuwin, and Eendracht.

Beautiful names, they're all named after old ships of the VOC (Vereenigde Oostindische Compagnie, or United Dutch East Asia Company)
 
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Thu Apr 12, 2007 1:33 am

Quoting SK601 (Reply 15):
JFK, EWR, IAD, ORD, ATL, IAH, LAX, SFO, YYZ, YUL, YVR, MEX, GRU, CUR, AUA, SXM, PBM, UIO, GYE, LIM, JNB, CPT, EBB, ABV, LOS, KAN, CAI, JRO, DAR, NBO, ACC, HYD, DEL, KWI, AUH, DMM, DOH, DXB, HKG, CTU, PVG, MNL, PEK, BKK, TPE, KUL, SIN, CGK, NRT, KIX, ICN, ALA (TIP/TLV:operated with B737)

I think I got them all

You forgot BON, THR as well as KRT and ADD. Good job though. Easy to forget a couple.
 
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Thu Apr 12, 2007 2:18 am

Quoting HB-IWC (Reply 23):
You forgot BON, THR as well as KRT and ADD

OEPS! How is possible to forget BON, when I did list GYE/UIO  
I even was asigned for the THR and KRT/ADD flights last week.   , I guess I need to leave AMS and take a vacation....

[Edited 2007-04-11 19:19:21]
 
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Thu Apr 12, 2007 2:45 am

Quoting KLAM (Reply 12):
LOL that´s true... sorry for the mistake.
BTW does anybody know how were the 742 named?

Same convention as the -300s, there was no distinction in the fleet between them (in fact KLM referred to all their -200s as -300s in all publications).

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 7):
Isn't KL's full legal name "Koninklijke Nederlandse Luchtvaart Maatschappij" (just that the Nederlandse or N was skipped from the abbreviation)? Otherwise, KL wouldn't be known in English as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines.

No, it isn't. The English translation isn't a literal one.
The "Dutch" was probably inserted to make it clear where they come from...

Quoting SK601 (Reply 15):
Not on a scheduled bases.

Used to be a scheduled 767 from Schiphol to Heathrow several times a day, not sure what they use now (probably a 739).

Quoting Joemonster (Reply 19):
I know it wasn't scheduled but i remember seeing a KLM 747 at LHR on one of my few trips down. I think it was a 747-200SUD?

Possible. KLM and BA both once in a while employ a 747 on the route to cover extreme traffic demands or as a replacement for an aircraft that can't fly.
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Thu Apr 12, 2007 2:50 am

Quoting Jwenting (Reply 25):
Used to be a scheduled 767 from Schiphol to Heathrow several times a day, not sure what they use now (probably a 739).

That would be KL1007/1008, now daily with A332.
 
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Thu Apr 12, 2007 3:46 am

Quoting Jwenting (Reply 25):
No, it isn't. The English translation isn't a literal one.
The "Dutch" was probably inserted to make it clear where they come from...

OK, I see now.
 
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Thu Apr 12, 2007 4:28 am

Quoting Scorpio (Reply 11):
The 747-300s had names like Leonardo Da Vinci, Sir Geoffrey de Havilland, etc.

I believe, technically, KL never had any 747-300s. They had 747-200s, of which the later GE-powered ones were modified with the stretched upper deck and officially became 747-200SUDs, but not 747-300s. I know they are often referred to as 747-300s unofficially.
 
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Thu Apr 12, 2007 6:20 am

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 28):
I believe, technically, KL never had any 747-300s. They had 747-200s, of which the later GE-powered ones were modified with the stretched upper deck and officially became 747-200SUDs, but not 747-300s. I know they are often referred to as 747-300s unofficially.

KLM certainly does had the 747-300 namely;

PH-BUU "Sir Frank Whittle". Went to Phuket Air in 2003 currently registered as HS-VAC.
PH-BUV "Sir Geoffrey de Havilland". Went to Orient Thai Airlines in 2003 currently registered as HS-UTK.
PH-BUW "Leonardo da Vinci". Went to Surinam Airways in 2004 currently registered as PZ-TCM.

Indeed quite a few 747 classics did get a so called Stretched Upper Deck (SUD) and were regularly indicated as an 743 but were in fact 747-200(SUD) but the above mentioned aircraft were original 743 build.
 
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Thu Apr 12, 2007 7:07 pm

Does anybody know how will they call the 77W´s?
This will be a very nice plane to fly with (Any chance of getting these in MEX?) I do hope they dont squeeze them with 10 abreast, I have always been scared of flying a 10 abreast T7, since I am a bit, lets say, bigger than the average stick.

Regards,

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Thu Apr 12, 2007 7:26 pm

Quoting Joemonster (Reply 19):
Quoting SK601 (Reply 15):
Quoting B764 (Reply 13):
Any heavies used on other short routes?

Not on a scheduled bases.

Do they not regularly have A330s in LHR on a scheduled service??

I know they used to fly A300s there everyday.
 
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RE: KLM Fleet? & More

Thu Apr 12, 2007 7:44 pm

Quoting Steve332 (Reply 31):
I know they used to fly A300s there everyday.

KLM operated A310s, not A300s.

Regards,
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Thu Apr 12, 2007 7:48 pm

Quoting Steve332 (Reply 31):
I know they used to fly A300s there everyday.

KL never operated the A300, but they operated the A310, and indeed these were used on the European network. (LHR, CDG)
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Thu Apr 12, 2007 8:20 pm

Does anyone know what aircraft type they operated to DXB in the past--i had flown them on DXB-AMS-DXB and it was a 747---[the year was May 1996]--i would like to know whether it was a 742/3/4---any place where i can find out.

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Thu Apr 12, 2007 8:20 pm

I must add to the accolades for KLM - having not flown them for some time, I flew KL yesterday (April 11) from CGK to KUL - the service was top notch even in tourist class.

What I did have difficulty finding was the regn of the 744 Combi I was on. With the old livery, the name of the plane was much more prominently displayed on the nose; in yesterday's case, the name on the new livery must have been obscured behind the aerobridge.

Any help from the many Dutch experts here on the regn of KL810 of April 11 CGK-KUL-AMS (arrving in AMS on Apr 12) would be greatly appreciated. I just need it to complete my records. Thanks!
 
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Thu Apr 12, 2007 8:22 pm

Quoting Starglider (Reply 32):
KLM operated A310s, not A300s.



Quoting KL5147 (Reply 33):
KL never operated the A300, but they operated the A310,

Why yes, yes they did only have A310s!
Sorry my bad   

[Edited 2007-04-12 13:24:02]
 
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Thu Apr 12, 2007 8:23 pm

Quoting KLAM (Reply 30):
Does anybody know how will they call the 77W?s?
This will be a very nice plane to fly with (Any chance of getting these in MEX?) I do hope they dont squeeze them with 10 abreast

The 4 B77Ws on order will be registered PH-BVA/B/C/D and will be operated in a 35J/393Y configuration, including a 10-abreast seating in the economy cabin. Initial destinations for these aircraft are now planned to be YYZ and GRU, but this information is sibject to change. I have no idea about the names that are planned for these aircraft.
 
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Thu Apr 12, 2007 9:02 pm

Quoting Airpearl (Reply 35):
Any help from the many Dutch experts here on the regn of KL810 of April 11 CGK-KUL-AMS (arrving in AMS on Apr 12) would be greatly appreciated. I just need it to complete my records. Thanks!

Your plane was PH-BFT named after the city of Tokyo.

Quoting RootsAir (Reply 16):
Quoting KLAM (Reply 9):
A330-200 are named after important (and not so important) world squares... ex. Dam Amsterdam, Potsdammer Platz.

I've always found this theme pretty random as tough they were short of ideas...they should have done like their DC10's...name them after famous composers .

KLM indeed was short on ideas, that´s why they started a competition among its customers to send in ideas for a category of names. Apparenty places of european cities have been chosen. The winner by the way was invited to visit the airbus plant in Toulouse and join the delivery flight of the first aircraft. Not bad for a win I guess.
 
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Thu Apr 12, 2007 11:15 pm

Quoting HB-IWC (Reply 37):
35J/393Y configuration, including a 10-abreast seating in the economy cabin

I read this as well, somewhere. 4 more seats than in KL's B747 full pax, which is 42/382. Is the B777-300 cabin wider than the B777-200? If so, I understand the 10-abreast seating, otherwise I don't get it. If the width is the same, I expect the B777-200 also to have the 3-4-3 config in the future.  crazy   eyepopping   faint 
 
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Thu Apr 12, 2007 11:36 pm

Quoting SK601 (Reply 39):
Is the B777-300 cabin wider than the B777-200?

Nope, it's the same...

Quoting HB-IWC (Reply 37):
The 4 B77Ws on order will be registered PH-BVA/B/C/D and will be operated in a 35J/393Y configuration, including a 10-abreast seating in the economy cabin. Initial destinations for these aircraft are now planned to be YYZ and GRU, but this information is sibject to change. I have no idea about the names that are planned for these aircraft.

What will the seat pitch be like? Standard 31" or wil they increase it somewhat to offset the slimmer seats? IIRC the seats will be less wide than the 744 seats right? I guess they must be, as the 77W is not as wide as the 744...
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Thu Apr 12, 2007 11:44 pm

Quoting SK601 (Reply 39):
f the width is the same, I expect the B777-200 also to have the 3-4-3 config in the future. crazy eyepopping faint

With the initial routes (YYZ and GRU) being mainly low yielding tourist destinations (YYZ is mainly VFR traffic) I think there might be a good reason to keep the 77W in 10-abreast and the 772's in 9 abreast
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Fri Apr 13, 2007 1:26 am

Quoting HB-IWC (Reply 26):
That would be KL1007/1008, now daily with A332.

cheers. Logical given the replacement of the 763 with the 332, but logic isn't always applied when management decisions are made  Smile
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Fri Apr 13, 2007 2:35 am

Quoting SK601 (Reply 39):
I read this as well, somewhere. 4 more seats than in KL's B747 full pax, which is 42/382. Is the B777-300 cabin wider than the B777-200? If so, I understand the 10-abreast seating, otherwise I don't get it. If the width is the same, I expect the B777-200 also to have the 3-4-3 config in the future.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if the B772ER fleet would end up as 10-abreast eventually, but I guess that KLM will wait and see what is the customer feedback of the 10-abreast in the B77W.

Quoting Kappel (Reply 40):
What will the seat pitch be like? Standard 31"

From what I have heard, there might be couple of rows in the front of the Y-cabin with an inch or two more seat pitch, but the rest of the cabin will be configured in accordance with the rest of the fleet. Unlike the B747, the B77W will feature the personal IFE system though.
 
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Fri Apr 13, 2007 2:54 am

When does KL bring their B772ER to IAD?? Is it this summer or will they continue with their A332s.
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RE: KLM Fleet? & More

Fri Apr 13, 2007 2:59 am

Quoting Mk777 (Reply 44):
When does KL bring their B772ER to IAD?? Is it this summer or will they continue with their A332s.

B772ER service to IAD starts Sunday, July 01.
 
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RE: KLM Fleet? & More

Fri Apr 13, 2007 4:16 am

Quoting HB-IWC (Reply 8):
PH-BQP is KLM's last B777-206ER on order and has been assigned number 630 on the production line. The aircraft will be leased from ILFC. KLM's 4 B777-306ER on order will be registered PH-BVA/B/C/D.

oh man... I was hoping to see PH-BQT and they name it the Taj Mahal.

Leo
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RE: KLM Fleet? & More

Fri Apr 13, 2007 4:43 am

Quoting Karan69 (Reply 34):
Does anyone know what aircraft type they operated to DXB in the past--i had flown them on DXB-AMS-DXB and it was a 747---[the year was May 1996]--i would like to know whether it was a 742/3/4---any place where i can find out.

That was a 747-300 (or 200SUD). I believe they flew AMS-Dubai-Karachi. There was also a AMS-Abu Dhabi-Colombo on a 743/2SUD
 
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RE: KLM Fleet? & More

Fri Apr 13, 2007 4:50 am

Quoting KLAM (Reply 12):
BTW does anybody know how were the 742 named?

PH-BUA "Mississippi / The Mississippi"
PH-BUB "Donau / The Danube"
PH-BUC "Amazone / The Amazon"
PH-BUD "Nijl / The Nile"
PH-BUE "Rio de la Plata / Rio de la Plata"
PH-BUF "Rijn / The Rhine"
PH-BUG "Orinoco / The Orinoco"
PH-BUH "Dr. Albert Plesman"
PH-BUI "Wilbur Wright"
PH-BUK "Louis Blériot"
PH-BUL "Charles A. Lindbergh"
PH-BUM "Ch. E. Kingsford Smith" (was: Charles E. Kingsford Smith)
PH-BUN "Anthony H.G. Fokker"
PH-BUT "Admiral R.E. Byrd" (was: Admiral Richard E. Byrd)
PH-BUU "Sir Frank Whittle"
PH-BUV "Sir G. de Havilland" (was: Sir Geoffrey de Havilland)
PH-BUW "Leonardo Da Vinci"
 
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RE: KLM Fleet? & More

Fri Apr 13, 2007 5:04 am

Oops, these 3 B742s I didn't included in my previous post.

PH-BUO "Missouri / The Missouri"
PH-BUP "Ganges / The Ganges"
PH-BUR "Indus / The Indus"

And like Vrille said in his post, PH-BUU, PH-BUV and PH-BUW were B743s.