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Videoclip Of This Jet Blue Emergency Landing

Wed Apr 11, 2007 1:57 am

This Jet Blue aircraft makes an emergency landing due to the nosewheel being stuck sideways.

Sorry no info on where the clip is from or when it happend

http://www.snutter.no/app/viewMovie.action?id=3396

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RE: Videoclip Of This Jet Blue Emergency Landing

Wed Apr 11, 2007 2:01 am

Wasn't that the landing at LAX a couple of years back? Very widely covered at the time.
 
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RE: Videoclip Of This Jet Blue Emergency Landing

Wed Apr 11, 2007 2:03 am

That was N536JB at LAX, 9/21/2005.

Link: http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0926274/L/

[Edited 2007-04-10 19:06:10]
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RE: Videoclip Of This Jet Blue Emergency Landing

Wed Apr 11, 2007 2:05 am

Quoting Mortyman (Thread starter):
This Jet Blue aircraft makes an emergency landing due to the nosewheel being stuck sideways.

Sorry no info on where the clip is from or when it happend

http://www.snutter.no/app/viewMovie.action?id=3396

( Click on the big picture )

Thanks for the sentiment friend... but you are a few months too late. I'm afraid this landing was discussed to death on this forum within the week that it happened.

Mortyman, one thing you should realise about this forum is that if it has to do with aviation... there are probably half a dozen people here who would post it on A.net seconds after it hits the newswires. Running a post race with those people is next to impossible if you have to work or go to school.
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RE: Videoclip Of This Jet Blue Emergency Landing

Wed Apr 11, 2007 2:06 am

Tom from Cologne
 
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RE: Videoclip Of This Jet Blue Emergency Landing

Wed Apr 11, 2007 2:14 am

Quoting Flybyguy (Reply 3):
Running a post race with those people is next to impossible if you have to work or go to school.
?? ?? ??

Quoting Mortyman (Thread starter):
Sorry no info on where the clip is from or when it happend
Prepare to be viciously flamed for not doing a search or being logged on to A-net 24/7
? ?? ??

Every month or so a new member or someone with a life will ask a seemingly naive question only to be chastised to the very pits of hell for actually having a life and not knowing the contents of every thread that has been posted on A-net for the last 10 years. I have a feeling you are about to become this months victim

[Edited 2007-04-10 19:17:43]
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RE: Videoclip Of This Jet Blue Emergency Landing

Wed Apr 11, 2007 2:23 am

Well it was a nice clip anyway  Smile

I've been a member since August, but it's impossible to know about everything that is posted here. I did also check with all the headliners that the system informed about before I posted, but there were no similarities there.

So what do you guys do, stay in bed all day with your laptop ? or do you annoy the hell out of your bosses at work, being logged on to ailrines net all the time ?  Smile
 
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RE: Videoclip Of This Jet Blue Emergency Landing

Wed Apr 11, 2007 2:41 am

Quoting Mortyman (Reply 6):
I did also check with all the headliners that the system informed about before I posted

This happend two years ago.. what did you expect to find in the headlines? Please do a little more research before posting. Thanks for the clip though
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RE: Videoclip Of This Jet Blue Emergency Landing

Wed Apr 11, 2007 2:43 am

Quoting Mortyman (Reply 6):
So what do you guys do, stay in bed all day with your laptop ? or do you annoy the hell out of your bosses at work, being logged on to ailrines net all the time ?

Both.. hehehe..

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the wonders of an understanding boss..

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RE: Videoclip Of This Jet Blue Emergency Landing

Wed Apr 11, 2007 4:06 am

I have a recording of this from one of the LA tv stations in HD ... absolutely amazing video.

In HD, you can see all the faces peering out of the windows during the LGB flyby, and in some cases, even see the LCD screens on the seatbacks inside (showing the airplane's flyby).

Could have done without the commentary during the landing, however ... the guy's going on and on about how any moment the doors will pop open and everyone will start coming down the slides ... and then almost sounds disappointed when nothing actually happens.

It was, however, an absolutely masterful feat of airmanship, and shows just how well trained the guys up front are.

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RE: Videoclip Of This Jet Blue Emergency Landing

Wed Apr 11, 2007 4:10 am

Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 5):
Every month or so a new member or someone with a life will ask a seemingly naive question only to be chastised to the very pits of hell for actually having a life and not knowing the contents of every thread that has been posted on A-net for the last 10 years. I have a feeling you are about to become this months victim

Hahaha. People seem to have calmed down on screaming at repeat posters which is good. Thanks for posting, if we hadn't seen it it woulda been a great find! Never hurts to be reminded of such an excellent display of piloting as well.
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RE: Videoclip Of This Jet Blue Emergency Landing

Wed Apr 11, 2007 4:20 am

I remember seeing some pics of the landing gear after the landing. I seem to have lost them and can't remember if I got them on A-net or through work. Anyone have any links to them. They were rather amazing in that they showed the gear ground down almost up to the landing light.
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RE: Videoclip Of This Jet Blue Emergency Landing

Wed Apr 11, 2007 4:31 am

Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 5):
A-net for the last 10 years. I have a feeling you are about to become this months victim

You should know that the forums haven't existed for 10 years yet! Only 9yrs, 10 months! Gosh! Big grin

Anyway, I like these posts because it brings back something to mind that most of us haven't thought about in a long time. Pretty impressive landing, good thing the nose bogey didn't collapse.

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RE: Videoclip Of This Jet Blue Emergency Landing

Wed Apr 11, 2007 7:41 am

Quoting Ebs757 (Reply 7):

Well as I mentioned in my post, I did not know when the clip was from.
 
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RE: Videoclip Of This Jet Blue Emergency Landing

Wed Apr 11, 2007 7:56 am

Oh, by the way, the pilot could use some instruction for the pilot in this clip.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsYxlXUzgP8
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RE: Videoclip Of This Jet Blue Emergency Landing

Wed Apr 11, 2007 8:40 am

Well now that the clip is back up, I have afew questions...

How did the pilots know that the nose wheel was turned at a 90 degree angle? Did they instantly know there was a problem when lowering the nose gear or did ATC spot a problem?

Also if the nose gear had been jammed at a 30-40 degree angle, would the outcome have been alot worse? For example when the nose touches down, would the smaller angle allow the tyres to grip the runway and veer the aircraft off the runway?
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RE: Videoclip Of This Jet Blue Emergency Landing

Wed Apr 11, 2007 10:39 pm

Quoting Legoguy (Reply 15):
How did the pilots know that the nose wheel was turned at a 90 degree angle? Did they instantly know there was a problem when lowering the nose gear or did ATC spot a problem?

I assume with this kind of gear system there would be 2 (or more) sensors giving signals to the cockpit.

1: That the gear is down and locked and 2: that the gear has turned and locked into its final position.

Quoting Legoguy (Reply 15):
Also if the nose gear had been jammed at a 30-40 degree angle, would the outcome have been alot worse? For example when the nose touches down, would the smaller angle allow the tyres to grip the runway and veer the aircraft off the runway?

Yes, then the wheel would have rolled and forced the airplane to one direction.
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RE: Videoclip Of This Jet Blue Emergency Landing

Wed Apr 11, 2007 10:56 pm

There are a lot of topics on this JetBlue incident on A.net, so if you want to read/learn more:
Jetblue A320 In Emergeny LGB (by Deltaflyertoo Sep 22 2005 in Civil Aviation) JetBlue Malfunctioning Nosegear (pics) (by Concentriq Oct 29 2005 in Civil Aviation) JetBlue N536JB(emergency Landing) Flying Again? (by RootsAir Oct 19 2005 in Civil Aviation) Jet Blue Landing Audio (by Omoo Oct 1 2005 in Civil Aviation) Evacuating Airbus A-320 (JetBlue Incident) (by ChiGB1973 Sep 29 2005 in Civil Aviation) A320 Emergency Good Or Bad Advertising? (by Thaigold Sep 22 2005 in Civil Aviation) JetBlue Landed With PTVs On (by SafetyDude Sep 22 2005 in Civil Aviation)
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RE: Videoclip Of This Jet Blue Emergency Landing

Wed Apr 11, 2007 11:05 pm

what if they had the breaks locked on the nose gear if it was turned at a 30 degree angle? or can you only lock all the breaks on a 320?
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RE: Videoclip Of This Jet Blue Emergency Landing

Wed Apr 11, 2007 11:13 pm

I remember someone had a video that a pax took inside the cabin during the landing? Does anyone have a link to that video?
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RE: Videoclip Of This Jet Blue Emergency Landing

Wed Apr 11, 2007 11:39 pm

A little thread drift here...

What is it with JetBlue and nosewheels? Last night a JetBlue flight from BOS to RSW had a nosewheel issue, causing mass panic on board (the crew briefed the pax on emergency procedures at 11,000 ft just prior to landing). Plane landed safely, no issues, but it was big news here in Ft. Myers as journalists love a good story (lots of video of pax crying as they deplaned, worried family members waiting, wild claims of "I thought we were gonna DIE!", the usual stuff).

So the question is, anyone with JetBlue know if there was really a problem, or was it just a misindication? Apparently the issue was repaired, and the plane turned around to JFK within a couple hours. Doesn't sound like anything major, but like I said, it was big news here.
 
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RE: Videoclip Of This Jet Blue Emergency Landing

Wed Apr 11, 2007 11:56 pm

Oh, no...
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RE: Videoclip Of This Jet Blue Emergency Landing

Thu Apr 12, 2007 12:02 am

Quoting Georgebush (Reply 18):
what if they had the breaks locked on the nose gear if it was turned at a 30 degree angle? or can you only lock all the breaks on a 320?

I dont believe they have brakes on the front gears
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RE: Videoclip Of This Jet Blue Emergency Landing

Thu Apr 12, 2007 12:07 am

Quoting Morvious (Reply 16):
Quoting Legoguy (Reply 15):
Also if the nose gear had been jammed at a 30-40 degree angle, would the outcome have been alot worse? For example when the nose touches down, would the smaller angle allow the tyres to grip the runway and veer the aircraft off the runway?

Yes, then the wheel would have rolled and forced the airplane to one direction.

I doubt it would have! The tyre would have been completly ripped off in seconds (which it was at 90') at that speed it would be too fast for the aircraft to turn on it so the wheel would never have got the chence to turn the aircraft.

Im no expert but id be suprised if anything other than that would happen. Although correct me if im wrong!  flamed 
 
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RE: Videoclip Of This Jet Blue Emergency Landing

Thu Apr 12, 2007 1:51 am

Quoting Legoguy (Reply 15):
Also if the nose gear had been jammed at a 30-40 degree angle, would the outcome have been alot worse? For example when the nose touches down, would the smaller angle allow the tyres to grip the runway and veer the aircraft off the runway?

Believe it or not, 90-degrees is actually a designed-in failure mode ... the reason is exactly what you pointed out : you don't WANT the gear canted at an unknown angle.

With it at 90, you KNOW it won't affect the airplanes trajectory on the ground, because you can control that via rudder, and once the rudder control is lost, as long as you're dead-on straight, you'll just slide to a stop.

Which is exactly what the JetBlue airplane did.

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RE: Videoclip Of This Jet Blue Emergency Landing

Thu Apr 12, 2007 1:55 am

Quoting Morvious (Reply 22):
Quoting Georgebush (Reply 18):
what if they had the breaks locked on the nose gear if it was turned at a 30 degree angle? or can you only lock all the breaks on a 320?

I dont believe they have brakes on the front gears

Correct, no brakes on that plane type or most other plane types.

Quoting Georgebush (Reply 18):
what if they had the breaks locked on the nose gear if it was turned at a 30 degree angle?

If that happened the pilot might opt for a gear up landing.
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