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SAS To Fly LGW-Aalesund

Thu Apr 12, 2007 7:02 am

SAS are to add a second route out of Gatwick after Bergen. They will fly to Aalesund twice a week from June

SAS Group airlines currently serve LHR, LGW, STN (Blue1) and LCY

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RE: SAS To Fly LGW-Aalesund

Thu Apr 12, 2007 7:19 am

Interesting, had no ideas they had even started on LGW.

I guess BGO could go year-round, but Aalesund? 2x a week from June could sound like summer-only, but still, cool.

Quoting Humberside (Thread starter):
SAS Group airlines currently serve LHR, LGW, STN (Blue1) and LCY

SK actually has quite a few slots at LHR, because of the history of the airline with three capitals etc. I think CPH/ARN/OSL-LHR are all at 5-6 daily, and IIRC SVG and GOT also have their LHR flights (I think two or so daily). Indeed a precious asset for the airline.

SK also did CPH-STN back in 2000 or so (in an attempt at being a pseudo-LCC against Go!), but pulled out (heavily accused of price dumping). Snowflake never came back to STN.

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RE: SAS To Fly LGW-Aalesund

Thu Apr 12, 2007 7:56 am

Quoting Kevin777 (Reply 1):
Interesting, had no ideas they had even started on LGW.

They took over from Braathens, who have operated to LGW for years.

Nice to see some more Scandinavian destinations being offered from London - NB starting Aalborg and now SK to Aalesund.
 
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RE: SAS To Fly LGW-Aalesund

Thu Apr 12, 2007 9:07 am

SAS AES-LGW-AES is scheduled to operate Mondays and Fridays:

SK 4631 Lv AES 1845 Ar LGW 2010 73G
SK 4632 Lv LGW 2100 Ar AES 0025 73G

First date of operation I could find is 1 June

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RE: SAS To Fly LGW-Aalesund

Fri Apr 13, 2007 12:13 am

In addition you have Norwegian (DY) serving the following secondary routes from London to Norway with B737-300.

Bergen (BGO) - London (STN), 1 - 2 daily
Trondheim (TRD) - London (STN), 1 daily
Kristiansand (KRS) - London (STN), 3 weekly


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RE: SAS To Fly LGW-Aalesund

Fri Apr 13, 2007 1:32 am

SASBraathens (previous Braathens) have been operated BGO-LGW for years. The only reason why it hasn't been transfered to LHR is due to slot restrictions and the route is not a high yield so buying a slot is not worth it.


SASBraathens is also beginning a 2x daily OSL-LCY in August operated by a leased RJ-70, as SAS do from ARN
 
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RE: SAS To Fly LGW-Aalesund

Fri Apr 13, 2007 8:22 am

Some interesting information I found concerning the subject of this topic.

http://www.visitalesund.com/default....sproduct&sp=GB&PR=65_438_39&bhcp=1

The scheduling given in reply 3 (different from what is given in the article linked) is based on current information provided by Sabre.
 
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RE: SAS To Fly LGW-Aalesund

Fri Apr 13, 2007 3:17 pm

I always think it is great when SAS start or restart routes, but i would like to see SAS start to counter on the Finnair expansion.

About an month ago i read an interesting comment by the SAS head of international ops, that if only he had 4-5 more widebodies he could easily find new routes to put them on.

I personally would very much like to see SAS get some of the used Airbus widebodies that might come up for sale by other carriers, meaning A330/A340.  bigthumbsup 
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RE: SAS To Fly LGW-Aalesund

Fri Apr 13, 2007 4:56 pm

Quoting Basefly (Reply 7):
I always think it is great when SAS start or restart routes, but i would like to see SAS start to counter on the Finnair expansion.

About an month ago i read an interesting comment by the SAS head of international ops, that if only he had 4-5 more widebodies he could easily find new routes to put them on.

I personally would very much like to see SAS get some of the used Airbus widebodies that might come up for sale by other carriers, meaning A330/A340

As you state yourself, SAS IC problem is that they need more widebodies (330/340) to be able to increase. And in the contract with their pilots is it agreed that they need to expand (i.e get another plane by 31.12.07). However no news on this will come until SAS reveals their new strategy plan in May
 
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RE: SAS To Fly LGW-Aalesund

Fri Apr 13, 2007 6:12 pm

Quoting Someone83 (Reply 8):
As you state yourself, SAS IC problem is that they need more widebodies (330/340) to be able to increase. And in the contract with their pilots is it agreed that they need to expand (i.e get another plane by 31.12.07). However no news on this will come until SAS reveals their new strategy plan in May

Getting a bit off-topic for this thread, but anyways, let's not get too overexcited about a lot of new long-haul from SK - let's not forget that SK is beginning to make money on the long-haul, whereas AY is starting to loose - no wonder IMO, they should focus more on frequencies rather than an impressive route map; what C-pax wanst twice-a-week flights??

If SK gets more widebodies, they should start new routes, yes, but keep up the frequencies they have on long-haul now..

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RE: SAS To Fly LGW-Aalesund

Fri Apr 13, 2007 8:32 pm

Quoting Kevin777 (Reply 9):
Getting a bit off-topic for this thread, but anyways, let's not get too overexcited about a lot of new long-haul from SK - let's not forget that SK is beginning to make money on the long-haul, whereas AY is starting to loose - no wonder IMO, they should focus more on frequencies rather than an impressive route map; what C-pax wanst twice-a-week flights??

Interesting note about AY. Any facts to cover your statetement? In my understanding AY's long haul ops are doing fine and are profitable.
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RE: SAS To Fly LGW-Aalesund

Sat Apr 14, 2007 12:27 am

Quoting Someone83 (Reply 8):

I did not know that it was in the contracts of the SK pilots!?.

But none the less great news!


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I know this is a bit off topic but still.....

Could some Austrian Airbuses be coming to SK soon.... Maybe SK could get a good deal, i mean they are very good friends with LH...?  veryhappy 
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RE: SAS To Fly LGW-Aalesund

Sat Apr 14, 2007 9:15 pm

Quoting AY" class=quote target=_blank>OkAY (Reply 10):
Quoting Kevin777 (Reply 9):
Getting a bit off-topic for this thread, but anyways, let's not get too overexcited about a lot of new long-haul from SK - let's not forget that SK is beginning to make money on the long-haul, whereas AY is starting to loose - no wonder IMO, they should focus more on frequencies rather than an impressive route map; what C-pax wanst twice-a-week flights??

Interesting note about AY. Any facts to cover your statetement? In my understanding AY's long haul ops are doing fine and are profitable.
With Regards, okAY

Tried to do a little search to see if I could find any hard facts, came up empty. On AY's webpage you can see a lot of stats for the incredible increase in ASKs, RPKs to Asia most notably, yet nothing on the yield development.

However, I'm sure I've read (probably here on a.net, too) that AY's economic performance on the long-haul has experience a negative trend recently; yields can't keep up. Don't know the extend of it, and it probably does not go for at least BKK and NRT, but still.

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RE: SAS To Fly LGW-Aalesund

Tue Apr 17, 2007 8:21 am

Since the distance covered AES-LGW is 825 miles almost entirely over water and scheduled overall flight time nearly 2.5 hours, will the SAS Braathens aircraft and crew who operate the route be required to be certified for extended overwater flight operations?
 
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RE: SAS To Fly LGW-Aalesund

Tue Apr 17, 2007 8:35 am

Quoting Tango-Bravo (Reply 13):
will the SAS Braathens aircraft and crew who operate the route be required to be certified for extended overwater flight operations?

I shouldnt think so. This is not an ETOPS route. Unlike in the states it is common for aircraft to be equipped for overwater flights(life vests, cots, etc). In the US most flights are overland, but in Europe this is not always the case.

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RE: SAS To Fly LGW-Aalesund

Tue Apr 17, 2007 9:12 am

The only flights I've been on, where the seat cushions have been posted as being a flotation device, have been in the US. Not something I've come across in Europe.

I'd say it's fairly common for aircraft to be equipped with lifevests and liferafts in Europe.
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RE: SAS To Fly LGW-Aalesund

Tue Apr 17, 2007 9:23 am

Quoting Tango-Bravo (Reply 13):
will the SAS Braathens aircraft and crew who operate the route be required to be certified for extended overwater flight operations?

The "extended" in ETOPS means more than 60 minutes away from the nearest airport. Since the flight itself will be approximately two hours actual flying time, the plane will never be more than 60 minutes away from either the origin or the destination airport. In addition, there are lots of airports along the way on the coast of Norway, in Scotland, and in northern England. So no ETOPS required.
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